ArriveCAN Quarantine Plan Not Required for Fully Vaccinated Travellers & Others - Effective 25 April 2022

[Babr]

1 minute ago, Shoalwater said:

If its off a cruise then you will be in Vancouver, CA.  In this case then take the train/bus to Seattle and fly from there w/o needing a test to enter the US or fly from SEA.  Is this logical, no but its how the rules are written.. 

 

Sure, but it will mean cancelling air and rearranging travel plans unless one intends to do this in the first place and plans ahead accordingly.

[dog]

18 minutes ago, Shoalwater said:

If its off a cruise then you will be in Vancouver, CA.  In this case then take the train/bus to Seattle and fly from there w/o needing a test to enter the US or fly from SEA.  Is this logical, no but its how the rules are written.. 

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take the responsibility for possibly spreading Covid virus to those on your flight.

 

 

[martincath]

3 hours ago, Shoalwater said:

If its off a cruise then you will be in Vancouver, CA.  In this case then take the train/bus to Seattle and fly from there w/o needing a test to enter the US or fly from SEA.  Is this logical, no but its how the rules are written.. 

Actually, if you test positive (rather than choosing to travel across the land border without doing a test) you are legally obliged to obey Canadian Federal (if on the cruise when +ve test) or Provincial (if on land in Vancouver) rules about self-isolating (10 days and 5 days minimum respectively) immediately, so the US 'test for flights but not for land' policy is utterly irrelevant.

 

While there's no longer an official system of verifying you are obeying by randomly calling you at your place of isolation, so anyone willing to break these laws can get away with the initial offence very easily at the time, the US and Canada do share all mutual-border-crossing info - so there will be a record of you having left the country with a time/date stamp...

 

All the tests which meet US standards for flying have detailed records of time/date and ID of person tested, whether it's an online Proctored or in-lab test, so there are records to prove you tested +ve and then left the country - once all the bureaucracy works through, expect to be banned from entering Canada ever again. Possibly fined too, just to add icing to the cake.

 

You're also banned from using public transit when confirmed +ve, so only a rental car is legal for 'heading home to isolate' - folks within practical driving distance with a positive test result can therefore return home, but they most definitely should not look at hopping on a bus and exposing fellow travelers as a viable option!

[Shoalwater]

from Martincath: "All the tests which meet US standards for flying have detailed records of time/date and ID of person tested, whether it's an online Proctored or in-lab test, so there are records to prove you tested +ve and then left the country - once all the bureaucracy works through, expect to be banned from entering Canada ever again. Possibly fined too, just to add icing to the cake."

 

You don't need a COVID test to board a US flight from within the USA, so there is no "record" to connect a test to, and you woluldn't have a proctored test anyway..  I'm not advocating this, but just pointing out the inconsistencies of the governmental agencies trying to manage the situations.  They are not in sync with plenty of loopholes.