tapia Posted September 9, 2006 #1 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Has anyone had trouble getting a Vancouver hotel for 2007 (beginning of July). Are there great places to stay over others? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 9, 2006 #2 Share Posted September 9, 2006 We stayed at the Westin Bayshore on a vacation in 2003, and really liked that hotel. I booked it for June 2007 using Starwood points. Some people have gotten that hotel on Priceline, but there is no guarantee that you'll get any particular hotel, or any hotel at all, depending on availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 9, 2006 Author #3 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thanks! I appreciate the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAYEF Posted September 9, 2006 #4 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I, too, just couldn't take the Priceline system and doubts............booked the Marriott Pinnacle. We had a fantastic view (saw our ship!) and just wheeled our luggage from there to the ship the morning of our cruise. We walked to Canada Place the evening before and checked out the best way to get our luggage down to the cruise entrance level, etc.........and then crossed the street to dine at Aqua Riva. I love the advice I find on this website!!:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 9, 2006 Author #5 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I, too, just couldn't take the Priceline system and doubts............booked the Marriott Pinnacle. We had a fantastic view (saw our ship!) and just wheeled our luggage from there to the ship the morning of our cruise.We walked to Canada Place the evening before and checked out the best way to get our luggage down to the cruise entrance level, etc.........and then crossed the street to dine at Aqua Riva. I love the advice I find on this website!!:p Did you get in on priceline / hotwire or directly through the site?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 9, 2006 #6 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Did you get in on priceline / hotwire or directly through the site?? I took KAYEF's "I, too, just couldn't take the Priceline system and doubts............booked the Marriott Pinnacle" - to mean that she reserved it the usual way - either paying for the room or using Marriott points. (I think probably the former.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising dfl Posted September 9, 2006 #7 Share Posted September 9, 2006 We were in the Marriott Pinnacle and LOVED it. GREAT view and very comfortable room. We went the points route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 9, 2006 Author #8 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thank you for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAYEF Posted September 10, 2006 #9 Share Posted September 10, 2006 After determining the hotel I wanted (Marriott Pinnacle) I priced it at every site I could find and booked it through AAA...............best price. The room, the gym, the view, the beds..........everything was first class. I would stay there again. We took a limo from the airport...........learned about that on here as well. It was comfortable, fast, no wait (we arrived about two p.m.) and a grand start to our vacation. $39. CAD plus 6% tax;) That's the price from the airport to the downtown area............anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 10, 2006 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2006 After determining the hotel I wanted (Marriott Pinnacle) I priced it at every site I could findand booked it through AAA...............best price. I thought you used Marriott points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogaltocruise Posted September 10, 2006 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2006 We only have experience with one hotel in Vancouver. We stayed at the Fairmont Waterfront and are booked there again in two weeks for our next cruise. It is across the street from Canada Place, We thoroughly enjoyed the hotel and the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulam Posted September 10, 2006 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Has anyone had trouble getting a Vancouver hotel for 2007 (beginning of July). Are there great places to stay over others? Thanks! We are cruising July 07 and tried to book the Pan Pacific for that time -- nothing, Sutton Place -- nothing, Fairmont -- nothing. Settled for the Sheraton Wall Centre because we felt, well we better book something and didn't really want to mess around with the uncertainty of Priceline, especially since the 3 hotels we called right off the bat were booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfb2girls Posted September 11, 2006 #13 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I have another question regarding hotels in Vancouver, we will be doing a SB cruise ending in Vancouver and are thinking about spending one night after our cruise exploring Vancouver. Where woulkd be the best place to book a hotel? We don't have to be close to the cruise port since we will have already taken our cruise but I would like to be in an area that is closer to some of the attractions. We won't be renting a car but taking the bus. The thing is is that I have vacationed twice in Vancouver but we stayed on campus since my nephew was going to college there and my brother-in-law rented and drove the car so I really wasn't paying much attention to the hotels. So any advice would really be aprreiciated. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 11, 2006 Author #14 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I also see a lot of things sold out or not showing availability. Do the cruise lines pick up a large block of rooms? Maybe these are released closer to the cruise....... Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 11, 2006 Author #15 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sorry, I forgot to include an additional question....... Is Sutton Place worth $277 for a night?? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpnut Posted September 11, 2006 #16 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Most of these hotels probably simply haven't opened their bookings for 2007 yet so that's why you're not seeing availability. For our August 2006 trip, I only booked the Sutton Place in April 2006 for less than $200/night via Hotwire. If you're a worrier, you should make a cancellable reservation somewhere now, but wait until the hotel "deals" start happening later. Unlike the cruise, you usually don't get the best deals booking hotels (or air) way in advance. The only thing you need to do well in advance is if you want to use frequent stay/flyer program points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 11, 2006 Author #17 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Thanks for the info. That's what I assumed it was. I appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 11, 2006 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Unlike the cruise, you usually don't get the best deals booking hotels (or air) way in advance. The only thing you need to do well in advance is if you want to use frequent stay/flyer program points. For some things - way in advance is much less expensive. I booked our June 2007 car rental with Hertz in Anchorage in June 2006. The weekly rate for the same car has gone up ~ $100 since then. I also booked hotels in Anchorage and Fairbanks for June 2007 as soon as they were available (about 50 weeks out), and got the Springhill Suites in both cities for under $100/night. The Springhill Suites in Anchorage is now about $100 more per night, and the one in Fairbanks isn't available to be booked now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpnut Posted September 11, 2006 #19 Share Posted September 11, 2006 For some things - way in advance is much less expensive. I booked our June 2007 car rental with Hertz in Anchorage in June 2006. The weekly rate for the same car has gone up ~ $100 since then. I also booked hotels in Anchorage and Fairbanks for June 2007 as soon as they were available (about 50 weeks out), and got the Springhill Suites in both cities for under $100/night. The Springhill Suites in Anchorage is now about $100 more per night, and the one in Fairbanks isn't available to be booked now.Perhaps, but you don't know that prices won't drop in the upcoming months either. I was mainly addressing someone's concern that the 5-star Pan Pacific and Sutton Place hotels in Vancouver were "not showing availability" and this is probably because they haven't opened or released their 2007 inventory yet. Hotwire and Priceline, probably the best way to get cheap hotel space, don't even have inventory of rooms yet for next summer. Thus, IMHO if you want the best DEAL for a good Vancouver hotel for next summer, it is way too early to book and would wait until early 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 11, 2006 #20 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Perhaps, but you don't know that prices won't drop in the upcoming months either. I was mainly addressing someone's concern that the 5-star Pan Pacific and Sutton Place hotels in Vancouver were "not showing availability" and this is probably because they haven't opened or released their 2007 inventory yet. Hotwire and Priceline, probably the best way to get cheap hotel space, don't even have inventory of rooms yet for next summer. Thus, IMHO if you want the best DEAL for a good Vancouver hotel for next summer, it is way too early to book and would wait until early 2007. I agree with you about prices and availability in Vancouver. However, I booked our Vancouver hotel (Westin Bayshore) a couple of weeks ago using Starwood points. That's the hotel I want, and I'm not tempted to try Priceline. I don't think Anchorage hotel prices or rental car prices will come down, because they don't have to. The exception is the few hotel rooms that might end up on Priceline in Anchorage, but bet those will be last minute deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpnut Posted September 11, 2006 #21 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I agree with you about prices and availability in Vancouver. However, I booked our Vancouver hotel (Westin Bayshore) a couple of weeks ago using Starwood points. That's the hotel I want, and I'm not tempted to try Priceline. I don't think Anchorage hotel prices or rental car prices will come down, because they don't have to. The exception is the few hotel rooms that might end up on Priceline in Anchorage, but bet those will be last minute deals. It's important to understand that pricing for hotel, car rental, airline and cruises are driven purely by supply and demand. Using very sophisticated load management strategies they price based on expected bookings or sales. If bookings or sales at a specific price point don't meet projections, prices will go down to spur additional sales, and vice versa. Priceline and Hotwire are used by airlines and hotels to get rid of EXCESS inventory, i.e. seats or rooms they cannot sell at regular published rates. The very fact that plenty of inventory exists on Priceline or Hotwire means that there is alot of downward price pressure due to competition. Thus nobody can be certain that prices will go or down for anything. My main point is that, this far in advance, it is too early to predict the direction of pricing (and there is no evidence that booking early is best), but it is certain that your choices are more limited. So for those that want the best room rate on the Westin Bayshore, Pan Pacific and Sutton Place, I'd definitely wait. Same applies to airfare--who'd book their flight, for example, this far in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted September 11, 2006 #22 Share Posted September 11, 2006 My main point is that, this far in advance, it is too early to predict the direction of pricing (and there is no evidence that booking early is best), but it is certain that your choices are more limited. So for those that want the best room rate on the Westin Bayshore, Pan Pacific and Sutton Place, I'd definitely wait. Same applies to airfare--who'd book their flight, for example, this far in advance? When there is no penalty for cancelling a car rental or hotel reservation made way in advance - I see no reason NOT to book some things early. You can always go back later and get the lower rate if prices drop. So far this is what I've reserved for our June 2007 cruise plus land trip: Plane tickets (FF miles); car rentals in Vancouver and Anchorage (went up $100/week in Anchorage since I booked); hotels in Vancouver, Anchorage (2 different nights), and Seward (all free using hotel points); B&B in Healy (got 2006 price by booking early). As I posted above - I reserved 1 night at Springhill Suites in Anchorage for a Sat. in June 2007 for $75/night. It's $156/night now, and I doubt it will go back to $75 - unless it ends up in Priceline or Hotwire's inventory late next spring. According to the CC poster "greatam" - Oct./Nov. is the best time to book Alaska flights for 2007. However, for anyone using FF miles, you really need to book the flights as soon as they open up - which is about 331 days out. I had all my flights on hold with American Airlines...just waiting for Alaska Airlines to release their Anchorage - Seattle FF seats. I went on vacation, and by the time I checked with AA the following week, all the FF coach seats on Alaska Airlines for the date I needed were gone! I ended up booking first class seats, which is fine for those long flights, but availability for coach FF seats is quite limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpnut Posted September 11, 2006 #23 Share Posted September 11, 2006 When there is no penalty for cancelling a car rental or hotel reservation made way in advance - I see no reason NOT to book some things early. You can always go back later and get the lower rate if prices drop. So far this is what I've reserved for our June 2007 cruise plus land trip: Plane tickets (FF miles); car rentals in Vancouver and Anchorage (went up $100/week in Anchorage since I booked); hotels in Vancouver, Anchorage (2 different nights), and Seward (all free using hotel points); B&B in Healy (got 2006 price by booking early). As I posted above - I reserved 1 night at Springhill Suites in Anchorage for a Sat. in June 2007 for $75/night. It's $156/night now, and I doubt it will go back to $75 - unless it ends up in Priceline or Hotwire's inventory late next spring. According to the CC poster "greatam" - Oct./Nov. is the best time to book Alaska flights for 2007. However, for anyone using FF miles, you really need to book the flights as soon as they open up - which is about 331 days out. I had all my flights on hold with American Airlines...just waiting for Alaska Airlines to release their Anchorage - Seattle FF seats. I went on vacation, and by the time I checked with AA the following week, all the FF coach seats on Alaska Airlines for the date I needed were gone! I ended up booking first class seats, which is fine for those long flights, but availability for coach FF seats is quite limited. I am very happy for you and you're obviously very satisfied with your itinerary, reservations and pricing. You will certainly save tons of money using all those frequent flyer/stayer points that the rest of us do not have. And I never disagreed that it isn't a good idea to go ahead and book a hotel and car rental as far in advance as possible as they are all cancellable--this should be obvious to all. However, to stay on topic, the OP asked about several luxury Vancouver hotels, their limited 2007 availability and pricing. At the risk of repeating myself, I'm trying to say, "don't panic" and wait a bit until all these big hotels open their full inventory for the 2007 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapia Posted September 11, 2006 Author #24 Share Posted September 11, 2006 However, to stay on topic, the OP asked about several luxury Vancouver hotels, their limited 2007 availability and pricing. At the risk of repeating myself, I'm trying to say, "don't panic" and wait a bit until all these big hotels open their full inventory for the 2007 season. I will be going ahead & booking a hotel that I'm able to cancel. Then I'm going to book something through Hotwire if I can. Do you know when their 'full inventory' becomes available or when to be bidding? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpnut Posted September 11, 2006 #25 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I will be going ahead & booking a hotel that I'm able to cancel. Then I'm going to book something through Hotwire if I can. Do you know when their 'full inventory' becomes available or when to be bidding? Thanks I just checked and I booked the Sutton Place through Hotwire on 5/12/06 for a 8/5/06 stay for $165+taxes+fees=$199.59. I recommend you check Hotwire or Priceline every few weeks until inventory for downtown Vancouver begins to show up. I honestly don't know when the best time to bid/buy for the best value is--it's really a crap-shoot! Also, if you are not familiar with Priceline or Hotwire strategies, be sure to check out www.betterbidding.com so you can reference other people's bid strategies (for Priceline) or hotel/amenity listings (for Hotwire). Good luck and enjoy Vancouver! I probably enjoyed Vancouver as much as the Alaska cruise or land tour itself! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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