Adventure Drinking Age Question

[DC2OC]

I would rather have have parents on the ship that would allow their child to have a drink or two over the ones that would allow the kids to wear shorts,t shirts and other crap in the main dining room..................Frank:rolleyes:

[jwlane]

[quote name='StormGoddess']To the comment about violating traffic laws, I don't drive![/quote]I guess what I said is true!;)

[Voyager]

[quote name='Jim Munkittrick']Back onboard in Cozumel....drinking age is 18. Young man, could hardly stand up, runs into his worse nightmare ....a very angry Dad. Son got very meek, very humble and was escorted to the cabin by Dad. Did not see the young man again.....[/QUOTE]
Hey Jim, is your dad still mad at 'cha:D ?

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='beachchick'][I]BearySweet2Cruise:[/I] I was only trying to point out that technically RCI doesn't care whether it's illegal drugs or underage drinking. They say both are not allowed and can get you thrown off the ship. I seriously doubt that would happen to you. It's just that under the rules RCI makes no real distinction between underage drinking and any other behavior that violates the rules we all agree to live with when we cruise with them.

I do not question your morals or your values. I do not know your daughter and have no opinion one way or the other about her behavior. However, I have always found it slightly disingenuous for parents to say that they'd rather have their "mature" underage child drink at home (or with them) than have the same adult child "sneak" around drinking somewhere else. My question is exactly how mature it is to sneak around and drink when you know it's illegal? The two things do not belong together as an argument, IMO. A mature 19 or 20 y/o will know it's wrong to sneak around and drink, and will not do so. Now, a parent who says, "I believe you are mature enough to have a couple of beers with me even though I know it's against the rules" is not using that argument, but rather is making a choice and a decision that is between the parent and young adult child. I make no value judgments about that because each person is different, and as long as it doesn't negatively affect my cruise, I don't care overly much.

beachchick[/quote]

thanks.. no hard feelings on my end from [B][U][COLOR=red]ANYONE[/COLOR][/U][/B] who has posted. An opinion is just that an Opinion....and a discussion or a debate is good no matter what the topic.. times they certainly have changed and the 200..almost 07! are very very different times from when we were kids !
Thanks to all who had a thought or two to share...still does not change what I think or feel, but that is Ok.....is is alright to agree to disagree :)

[rsscaptain]

[quote name='BearySweet2Cruise']WOW.. I have no issue with an 18 yr old drinking under parental supervision,[B][U] but age 10??[/U][/B] that is ridiculous... and very scarey!!:eek:[/quote]

Glad you draw the line somewhere...:rolleyes:

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='HurricaneSally']Besides, having an occasional beer at home, is a little different than [COLOR=magenta][B]illegally packing a twelve pack so she can have a few in her cabin every night on a cruise.[/B][/COLOR]

Parents would be amazed at what their kids do when they're not around. The best parents in the world don't know everything their kids do when they're with their friends.

If she is permitted to drink at home, then she probably drinks when she is with her friends, but just doesn't tell you because it will disappoint you.[/quote] [B]Highly doubtful, as I know her friends, but if she is not driving It would not upset me.[/B]

[B]Sally..its a 6 pack, not a 12 pack so get it right if you are gonna quote me.....please. :) :) [/B]

[cmich068]

The drinking age in the US should be 19. It would save all those teens in Buffalo, New York and Detroit, Michigan the trouble of crossing the border into Canada every saturday to get beer for the game on Sunday.

[nrdsb4]

[quote name='StormGoddess']To the comment about violating traffic laws, I don't drive!

[COLOR=red]Alcohol IS an illegal drug to someone under the legal drinking age. [I][U][B]Plain and simple.[/B][/U][/I][/COLOR]

And questioning the morals is not unjust. Asked if I would rather have my child drink at home where it's safe...more importantly, I would rather teach my child that it is wrong and illegal to drink before the age of 21 here. AND teach my child that when in someone elses property, you respect their rules. But the parent would have to respect them first.[/quote]



No, it is not plain and simple. In my state and many others, it is perfectly legal for a parent to provide alcohol to their child (not anyone else's) as long as they are in their own home and there to supervise them.

I don't know why you are making this a matter of morals and I don't think any of us are in the position to make a judgment of someone else's morals based on one aspect of their lives.

[PVDCruiser]

[quote name='DJan07']I too am a very responsible teenager (straight A's, high moral standards, etc.)[/quote]

Don't believe a word of it! :p :D

[nrdsb4]

[quote name='TrueBlueTory']The drinking age in the US should be 19. It would save all those teens in Buffalo, New York and Detroit, Michigan the trouble of crossing the border into Canada every saturday to get beer for the game on Sunday.[/quote]

It wouldn't change anything except that the kids trying to sneak a beer would just be even younger.

[ctbrown24]

[quote name='PVDCruiser']Don't believe a word of it! :p :D[/quote]

Hey now, not all teens are bad. When I went on the Mariner in 05 & 06 (18 and 19 at the time), my parents signed the waiver. They knew I would be responsible, and I was. I saw some of the 18-20 year olds go wild with the 'freedom' they are given, but not all of us are like that. ;)

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='DC2OC']I would rather have have parents on the ship that would allow their child to have a drink or two over the ones that would allow the kids to wear shorts,t shirts and other crap in the main dining room..................Frank:rolleyes:[/quote]

GREAT POINT! :D :)

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='DJan07']Geez, you guys were reading too much into my question! :p Well, I too am a very responsible teenager (straight A's, high moral standards, etc.) and won't drink unless the ship allows it AND have the supervision of my parents. However, I am a little bit disappointed that the thread where I asked a simple question turned into questioning morals and parenting. That wasn't my intent at all and I want to apologize to those who have been offended. Now that I was cleared up on the rules and regulations (thanks, by the way), I won't drink on the ship. The only time I would drink (if at all) would be on the islands where it is legal and with my parents with me. I've been raised to respect laws and abstain from illegal activites, but if it was truely "legal" on the ship then I would like to try some drinks. Vacation is a time to experience new things and have fun right? Well, thanks for everyone's imput and again, I'm sorry if anyone was offended on this thread.

Derek[/quote]

derek: You seem like a very well mannered and mature teen.. your parents are certainly proud of you. I know, because I have a teen that I am extremely proud of as well..:) :)

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='HurricaneSally']How will [COLOR=red]you[/COLOR] explain to another child of yours that she will not have the same privileges (if possible)? Let's say you have a troubled child that is not quite as perfect as the first one, how will you tell that child that she cannot drink at 18?
[B][COLOR=red]First of all I have only one other daughter, and I have no troubled kids.. they know right from wrong, and get their priviledges and rewards based on respect and mature ability to have level headed abilities as with the 18 yr old, almost 19 now...[/COLOR][/B]
It will be a tough one, to try to point out how perfect the first one was, and how different the second one is. [B][COLOR=red]Second one is a lot like the older one in learning that to get respect you must [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=red] show respect first. Does good in school, best grades this year in middle school than she has ever had in the past. We are very proud of her accomplishments:) [/COLOR][/B]
I'm just using a for instance, because all of our children are not perfect. In our house, we use the laws to help us dictate our rules in the home regarding illegal alcohol and drugs. What do you use as a barometer for what is wrong and right?[/quote]

[B][COLOR=red]Yes I agree that not all kids are perfect for sure..no one is perfect, not even me and not even you.. the barometer used for what is right and wrong is behavior modification, explanation as to what they are doing or have done is wrong, and why so... open communication is the key to good kids, with parental supervision and the fact that trust is built into the relationship so as a parent you do not have to be worried sick about where the kids are and what they are up to that could be a potential wrong doing. My children have the common sense and common courteousy to be respectful to others and manners prevail in showing they are great kids.. my second daughter is soon to be 13, but not a wild child, (still likes her barbie dolls, etc) now I know a time will come where boys will enter her mind, but a good motherly bond and good honest trust and open communication will go along way in my kid being directed towards a successful road to become a productive and impotrtant individual in todays society. As I have said, it is not what you say or what you do, it's HOW you approach it and How you choose to deal with the issues as they arise.. respect is key here in this conversation.. when she is 18, and if she is equally as responsible and I am certain she is not a nuisence to society, I would not think twice about allowing her to have a beer at home under parental supervision, but she has sipped beer and hates it... (at least for now) did I answer all of your questions Saint Sally?? :D :) [/COLOR][/B]

[BearySweet2Cruise]

[quote name='nrdsb4']It wouldn't change anything except that the kids trying to sneak a beer would just be even younger.[/quote]
true, and not even just that that,, kids would and do just get someone old enough to buy it for them.. most 18 and 19 yr olds have friends who are at least 21.. if they want it bad enough they will get it somewhere.. I would rather know what my almost 19 yr old IS doing and not have to be worried about where she is and who she is with..IMO