TN cruisin Posted March 11, 2008 #1 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I was just told that all infants are male and listed as Master on the funpass. I'm hoping we dont have a problem at embarkation. My grandaughter is female not male...yet her funpass has her title listed as Master and her sex as male. When I called to get it changed through travel agent, they called Carnival and were told it cant be changed, its the way it gets listed on the funpass. Anyone else have this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otistwilly Posted March 11, 2008 #2 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I had that with my son, different scenario I know, but my TA and Carnival both said it's "olde English". Children that are under the age of 13 could not make decisions for themselves so were therefore referred to as Master and not Mrs. or Mr. They said it also helped to identify the true adult of the house as so many children were named after the parents in that time. It would make sense to me for her to be listed as mistress, but if they say it's okay....I was told the only time there are problems at embarkation are if the first and/or last name don't match, i.e. Abby instead of Abigail or Matt instead of Matthew or in the case of more than one family homes. I hope you don't have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted March 11, 2008 #3 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I remember receiving many letters delivered to me when I was a child, addressed as Master. And I'm not that old... :) I always thought it was a Sailer's term... most of the folks who addressed letters to me this way were in the Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN cruisin Posted March 11, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My concern is that it lists her as male. Her birth certificate and her fun pass have the same name. Do you think little girls in the old days were listed as Master? The history of it is interesting, I know a lot of males in the family carry the same name, our family has that. But I still dont see a female as being listed as a male at any age, or called Master. I just wondered if it got listed wrong and its too much trouble for them to fix, so they'll have it noted on our paperwork. Or if all babies are really listed as male. I hadnt seen any posts about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBunni Posted March 11, 2008 #5 Share Posted March 11, 2008 It's a default of the system. Carnival is listing your baby as an infant, but the funpass system doesn't recognise "infant", and defaults it to "master". You will not have any problems. From what I've been told, it's a well known issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN cruisin Posted March 11, 2008 Author #6 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks!! I hadnt seen any posts about it, but had seen some about issues when boarding. I dont want to get to Port Canaveral and then have problems. I figured if it really was a default, others on the message boards would have heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 11, 2008 #7 Share Posted March 11, 2008 That's the biggest load of nonsense I've heard in my life and so not true. An infant is listed as INFT and I (as the sex) on the booking. Someone screwed up when making the booking. (Master) MSTR and M is a male under 13 (Miss) MISS and F is a female under 13. Make them change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBunni Posted March 11, 2008 #8 Share Posted March 11, 2008 That's the biggest load of nonsense I've heard in my life and so not true. An infant is listed as INFT and I (as the sex) on the booking. Someone screwed up when making the booking. (Master) MSTR and M is a male under 13 (Miss) MISS and F is a female under 13. Make them change it. Call and ask :D You are correct about it being listed as an infant - but the funpass assigns a gender and the default is male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsfamily Posted March 11, 2008 #9 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I had that with my son, different scenario I know, but my TA and Carnival both said it's "olde English". Children that are under the age of 13 could not make decisions for themselves so were therefore referred to as Master and not Mrs. or Mr. They said it also helped to identify the true adult of the house as so many children were named after the parents in that time. It would make sense to me for her to be listed as mistress, but if they say it's okay....I was told the only time there are problems at embarkation are if the first and/or last name don't match, i.e. Abby instead of Abigail or Matt instead of Matthew or in the case of more than one family homes. I hope you don't have issues. In "olde English" there would not have been any reference to a female or girl as they were considered "chattel". We went on a cruise when our daughter was just turning 2 (1991) and she was listed as a female and by her correct name. - Ah but that was the cruise line that became Disney Cruises... I believe that I would have a word with Carnival myself - sounds like a class-action lawsuit - I'm sure Customs would not be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted March 11, 2008 #10 Share Posted March 11, 2008 That's the biggest load of nonsense I've heard in my life and so not true. An infant is listed as INFT and I (as the sex) on the booking. Someone screwed up when making the booking. (Master) MSTR and M is a male under 13 (Miss) MISS and F is a female under 13. Make them change it. maybe it depends on the age of the child. Our grand daughter was listed as Master. and we had no problems. She was 18 months old in August when we sailed the Liberty Carnival is not looking for Mater, Male, female on children Just the correct name on the fun pass is the same as the birth certiifcate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBunni Posted March 11, 2008 #11 Share Posted March 11, 2008 maybe it depends on the age of the child. Our grand daughter was listed as Master. and we had no problems. She was 18 months old in August when we sailed the Liberty Carnival is not looking for Mater, Male, female on children Just the correct name on the fun pass is the same as the birth certiifcate. Any child under 2 years old is considered an infant. All infants default to "master". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kurbanfan Posted March 11, 2008 #13 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks!! I hadnt seen any posts about it, but had seen some about issues when boarding. I dont want to get to Port Canaveral and then have problems. I figured if it really was a default, others on the message boards would have heard about it. This very same thing happened to my daughter in law last August when we sailed on the Elation. She was listed as a Mr. lol. They never even mentioned it at check in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qprrules Posted March 11, 2008 #14 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Poor kids, they are going to have "complex" issues because of this!!:eek: Sue carnival:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiacruizer Posted March 11, 2008 #15 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My two DD's both had "Miss" in front of their names on our documents (4 and 7 at the time). Perhaps Carnival needs to add sub-categories; infant-male and infant-female. I could imagine it would be a bit disconcerting seeing your little girl or granddaughter listed as "Master". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner15km Posted March 11, 2008 #16 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Dress her in blue with a baseball cap and go with the flow.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otistwilly Posted March 11, 2008 #17 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hey Venture Man didn't mean to make you sound older than you are!! If it makes you feel better, my son, the 4 year old, still receives letters addressed to "Master" from his great aunts. I always thought they were mis-spelling Mister. Goes to show what I know right?? Wait, don't answer that. Also Bobsfamily, interesting about the "chattel" I never thought of it that way. TN cruisin, let us know how it turns out. This is an interesting topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muumuu Posted March 11, 2008 #18 Share Posted March 11, 2008 This is not about an infant but when I went to fill out my fun pass for hubby and I there was a problem. He has cruised with Carnival several times. On the documentation it listed him as Mrs and as a female. I called and it was a fluke in their system and they fixed it. This may be a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN cruisin Posted March 12, 2008 Author #19 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I already called twice. The first time the person I spoke to told me she talked to Carnival and it was fixed. Last night when it hadnt changed from day before I called again. Thats when the TA told me that we would not have a problem, that Master is the default. We just dont want to get there and have a problem. I guess we better pack that blue outfit with the ball cap:D just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truecruiser Posted March 12, 2008 #20 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I was just told that all infants are male and listed as Master on the funpass. I'm hoping we dont have a problem at embarkation. My grandaughter is female not male...yet her funpass has her title listed as Master and her sex as male. When I called to get it changed through travel agent, they called Carnival and were told it cant be changed, its the way it gets listed on the funpass. Anyone else have this happen? there was a thread on here not too long ago about the same thing. i wld look into this further. because i have 2 boys and a girl. the boys have always been listed as "mstr" and my dd has always been listed "miss" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funat55 Posted March 13, 2008 #21 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What century are we living in anyway? Sounds like they prewired all infants to be male and don't want to go to the trouble to fix the glitch. In any event it shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell36 Posted March 13, 2008 #22 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I had this problem on our last two cruises with our kids on our cruise invoices. The previous cruise was booked through a TA, who knows my kids. Our current cruise was booked through a PVP. When I recieved the invoices for each cruise they had our 11 yr old DD listed as Master. Each time I called the person I booked with and had no problem getting it fixed. So, it may be a thing with children under the age of 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extcat Posted March 13, 2008 #23 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I do not like it. My last name is Baiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baylor99 Posted March 13, 2008 #24 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I recommend calling Carnival directly, bypass the TA, give them your booking number, then you here it directly from Carnival. 1 888-Carnival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebb32 Posted March 13, 2008 #25 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Is it possible that its too close to the cruise to change the childs salutation. I wouldnt worry about it at all. A passport would overide this issue. We encounter this problem frequently. So many names are unisex today and its impossible to have these issues from time to time. Names like Jody, Morgan, Mackenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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