dan40 Posted January 8, 2009 #26 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Disney corporation is one of the largest entertainment corporations in the world. It is number 2 behind Time Warner on the Fortune 500 for entertinment companies and number 67 overall. In 2007 it had revenues of over $35 billion. Disney may only have 2 cruise ships but it is much larger than Carnival Corporation. Disney could buy Carnival. I find it unlikely in todays credit market but not impossible. Disney 27 Sep. 2008 Net Tangible Assets $7,744,000,000. CCL 31 Aug. 2008 Net Tangible Assets $15,462,000,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP1111 Posted January 8, 2009 #27 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Carnival shareholders may be interested to learn that Doug Kass of the Street.com has posted his 20 surprises of 2009 and one of the surprises is that Disney will buy out Carnival. Kass stated 60% of his 20 surprises of 2008 were substantially correct. Time will tell I guess. I am officially taking my 2009 salary to Las Vegas and placing the entire thing on the betting table. I'm betting on the '40% chance' that this entire idea (of Kass) is more than a wee bit doofus. Now to decide on how to spend my definite financial return. Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieastrosfan Posted January 8, 2009 #28 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I hope this isn't true, because honestly, if I wanted to take a Disney cruise, I'd book one. All I know is that I have never sailed Disney because their ships have no gambling...I hope they wouldn't try to adopt that policy to Carnival as well.... :mad: I know this whole idea is a very far-fetched longshot at best - but if they ever removed casinos from Carnival ships, you can bet I'd never set foot on one ever again. But I don't even want to consider that a possibility, so I'm calling no way in Hades on this one. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunesGoddess Posted January 8, 2009 #29 Share Posted January 8, 2009 You mean the mouse better have a lot of CHEESE!! I hope this isn't true, because honestly, if I wanted to take a Disney cruise, I'd book one. All I know is that I have never sailed Disney because their ships have no gambling...I hope they wouldn't try to adopt that policy to Carnival as well.... :mad: I agree with you there. Although I really really want to take a Disney cruise, my hubby will not do it because they don't have casinos. He really enjoys his Texas Hold 'em and Black Jack on a cruise. I have to admit, I love to sit down at a black jack table myself, but I don't HAVE to have a casino. The only way I am going to get on a Disney Cruise is if I do a "girls getaway cruise". If Disney buys out Carnival, I hope they do not do away with Casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapsmith Posted January 8, 2009 #30 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I could see an agreement between Carnival and Disney for Carnival to operate the Disney Ships. But no way could Disney buy Carnival. Might work the other way tho. Carnival buying Disney? My broker sent me a notice that Carnival Stock was a "Buy" because of advance bookings. It also mentioned that CCL and Carnival LTD. together operate 48% of all passenger cruise Vessels on the Planet. I think if Disney were to buy Carnival, they would then pass Microsoft and be pushing WalMart as the largest company in the world. Ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam1148 Posted January 8, 2009 #31 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Could we just put all the CEO's in a "Thunderdome" or Highlander type thing and put on pay per view and let them fight it out until one leaves the victor? Geeze...soon we'll be worse via capitalism than dystopian novels of the 40's and 50's warning about 'one brand of stuff' via communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemurCat Posted January 8, 2009 #32 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Could we just put all the CEO's in a "Thunderdome" or Highlander type thing and put on pay per view and let them fight it out until one leaves the victor? Geeze...soon we'll be worse via capitalism than dystopian novels of the 40's and 50's warning about 'one brand of stuff' via communism. I'm waiting for Wal-Mart and Microsoft to fake an alien invasion ala The Watchmen to bring about world peace, lower prices, and the Vista Revolution. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtalum Posted January 8, 2009 #33 Share Posted January 8, 2009 CCL is far more likely to buy DIsney Cruise Line than Disney buy CCL. I still doubt it, but that way is at least quasi-plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatherBFishin Posted January 8, 2009 #34 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I'm waiting for Wal-Mart and Microsoft to fake an alien invasion ala The Watchmen to bring about world peace, lower prices, and the Vista Revolution. :p Ozymandias is clearly a Linux user. I swear I've seen his cat on the cover of an O'Reilly programming book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan40 Posted January 8, 2009 #35 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I'm waiting for Wal-Mart and Microsoft to fake an alien invasion ala The Watchmen to bring about world peace, lower prices, and the Vista Revolution. :p U gotta stop smokin that Oregano. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansatw Posted January 8, 2009 #36 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've been studying Disney's financial and operational records for the past year, as part of my Business Management degree courses I'm taking. Believe me - I've researched DIS inside and out, and Disney isn't about to buy another cruise line. I'll bet my mouse ears on it. :D As far as CCL buying DIS goes, it's also highly unlikely, since DIS is so diversified. It'd mean selling off assets that are outside of CCL's scope, such as media and motion pictures, and DIS will fight to death to prevent that from ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelz66 Posted January 8, 2009 #37 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ok..........how about:"last year's "possible improbables" proving to be materially on target." Its High Finance jargon Kelz :) LMAO....yeah...just a bunch of words that sound good and don't mean much...heheheheh:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemurCat Posted January 8, 2009 #38 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've been studying Disney's financial and operational records for the past year, as part of my Business Management degree courses I'm taking. Believe me - I've researched DIS inside and out, and Disney isn't about to buy another cruise line. I'll bet my mouse ears on it. :D As far as CCL buying DIS goes, it's also highly unlikely, since DIS is so diversified. It'd mean selling off assets that are outside of CCL's scope, such as media and motion pictures, and DIS will fight to death to prevent that from ever happening. But, they could easily lift out the Cruise Line division and sell that off, or even spin it off into an independent business. :p Regardless, the mind boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted January 20, 2009 Author #39 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This analyst says Disney will buy Royal Caribbean http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/01/16/disney-in-2012.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie48 Posted January 20, 2009 #40 Share Posted January 20, 2009 WTH does substantially correct mean? LMAO :rolleyes: Thats what I was wondering??? Sounds like he missed more predictions, but they were close so he's counting them :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie48 Posted January 20, 2009 #41 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ok..........how about:"last year's "possible improbables" proving to be materially on target." Its High Finance jargon Kelz :) Sounds like the kind of logic that got us in the financial situation we are currently in:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan40 Posted January 20, 2009 #42 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This analyst says Disney will buy Royal Caribbean http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/01/16/disney-in-2012.aspx That is a buyout that could get approval and would increase competition. Don't know that Dis would want to take on that much debt tho! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegCruiser Posted January 20, 2009 #43 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The Mouse better have a lot of money! Basically the Mouse has about 1 billion dollars a month surplus to spend. Yes, they have lots of money. The strategy the mouse seems to have is to create the "place to go" and then slowly create what everyone needs in order to go there. For example, for many years there was almost no Disney Hotels. Everyone who went to a Disney Park had to stay in an offsite hotel. Today Disney has many hotels, and they fill them. Other items added to the mouses inventory? Time shares, a complete city (Celebration, FL), cruise ships, Conference Centers, Nascar Racing, Sports Franchises, Television Network... If there were anyway to be profitable in the airline industry, I would expect an airline. (Maybe they just can't get the mouse ears on the plane?) Now I don't believe this rumor. Disney has everything they need in the cruise line they already have. IMO Carnival would bring nothing new to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansatw Posted January 20, 2009 #44 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Uncle Walt just signed to pay for a huge chunk of building Shanghai Disneyland, and they're expanding Hong Kong Disneyland and Disney's CA Adventure. I really suspect that's where a majority of their cash will be going for a while, instead of buying out another cruiseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan40 Posted January 20, 2009 #45 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Uncle Walt just signed to pay for a huge chunk of building Shanghai Disneyland, and they're expanding Hong Kong Disneyland and Disney's CA Adventure. I really suspect that's where a majority of their cash will be going for a while, instead of buying out another cruiseline. Disneyland China, built FOR kids,,,,,,,,,,,,BY kids!!!! [Leno] Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama_hao Posted January 20, 2009 #46 Share Posted January 20, 2009 HMMM interesting thought since I own both Disney and CCL stock....:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigirlcruzin Posted January 21, 2009 #47 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think if Disney were to buy Carnival, they would then pass Microsoft and be pushing WalMart as the largest company in the world. Ain't gonna happen. Close on the Microsoft, but nowhere close on Wal-Mart. Carnival Corp is a $14.65 billion corp; Disney Corp is $35.9 billion for a total of $50.55 billion, which would put them at #141 in Fortune's world wide 500. Microsoft has revenue of $51.1 billion (#136). Wal-Mart, the number 1 company in the world, has revenues of $378 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G'ma Posted January 21, 2009 #48 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Carnival shareholders may be interested to learn that Doug Kass of the Street.com has posted his 20 surprises of 2009 and one of the surprises is that Disney will buy out Carnival. Kass stated 60% of his 20 surprises of 2008 were substantially correct. Time will tell I guess. Hmmmmm...this same rumor is circling over on Royal Caribbean forum....that Disney is going to buy them. As for Carnival selling........HA!!! The company is a gold mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 21, 2009 #49 Share Posted January 21, 2009 If Disney buys any cruiseline and turns them into Disney Ships - their passengers will instanly drop by two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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