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Steak tartare is a meat dish made from raw ground meat (beef[1][2] or horsemeat[3]). It is usually served with onions, capers, pepper and Worcestershire sauce, and other seasonings, often presented to the diner separately, to be added to taste. It is often served with a raw egg yolk, and often on rye bread.

The name tartare is sometimes generalized to other raw meat or fish dishes.

A less-common version in France is tartare aller-retour, a mound of mostly raw ground meat that is lightly seared on both sides.

 

 

Steak Tartar is normally made by chopping.

You can also see that they changed the text, it used to read "chopped or minced" as they're using a definition of ground meat that also includes chopped meat.

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But... Steak Tartare is, by definition, made from ground meat. Are you saying Princess uses a different meat (horse perhaps?) or are you saying that what Princess serves isn't really Steak Tartare? Please elaborate as I am truly curious.

Steak tartare is usually made from a specific cut and chopped onsite/ to order. Whereas ground beef is usually made at least in part from trimmings and ground in a larger facility not onsite. As the inside of beef muscle meat starts out sterile it's the higher chance of cross contamination when grinding it that makes the difference between the two.

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You can use American currency anywhere in Canada.

Most touristy cities and those near the border will be accommodating. But, you'll get a way worse rate than if you just use a CC.

And they're certainly under no obligation to take USD. ( Say if you're trying to buy like a stick of gum )

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When you use one of these free Black Card meals I know that you have to order from a special menu. The items on this menu overlap with items on the regular menu but are they the same portion size or are they smaller? Also, if you’d like to order more than the 3 items per person from the limited menu can you order an additional item from the main menu and just pay whatever the item price is?

 

Also, I saw something that noted that when you use your Black Card meal that drinks are excluded. What if you have a drink package through the Yacht Club? Will your drinks be covered by that even with this Black Card meal?

 

 

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You can order from the rest of the menu and just pay whatever that costs. We did that in the Asian market kitchen when we wanted some extra sushi.

Yes, your drinks are still included if you're YC. Drinks are included for YC anywhere you go on the ship since they made that change last year.

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What about the Roy Yamaguchi place or the sushi bar?

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Yes, Harry Jekkers, don't forget Cpt. Eversen is also from the Schilderswijk, will you be on the A'dam for Asia trip..?

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We had those in the YC on the Divina.

It was excellent. Same depth cabin but extra wide, way more room between the foot of the bed and the wall. No downside to it.

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This is how it works in land based restaurants. We aren't paying service charge to cleaning ladies or people who wash dishes etc. It is paid from our meal charges, but we do pay gratuities in person to our waiters.

In a lot of places the servers have to tip out the back of house. So not that dissimilar to the DSC.

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That makes no sense. You can't have it "make no difference" for you and at the same time "love to have possibility to have part of my DSC autocharged for people behind the scenes, but to be able to give remaining gratuities directly to people who serve us". Those two concepts are are mutually exclusive. :)

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Rumor has it the Pilgrims were lousy tippers.

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Very well said. I do a lot of research prior to trips outside the United States to make sure I follow their customs, but I hear from many from other countries, "well, we don't do that back home, so I won't do it here". If we were to say that, they would say we are ugly Americans, but if they do it it here is a-okay with them! Call me confused and I wonder why some of us try so hard to do research about other countries customs, so we do the right thing.

People from every country are bad tourists and good tourists.

Also, some things are easier to adapt to when travelling than others depending on how deeply ingrained something is in the culture you're from.

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I know I am repeating myself from another thread...However if I go to another country I am expected to respect the traditions and customs of that country, which I do. When people come to the US the same belief does not seem to be in place. Unless changed this is a country that embraces tipping and the custom should be respected the same way we do in your country(I am not singling out any one country). NCL is an US company and works off US customs. If you don't like or believe in tipping just find a cruise line that meets your needs. Why mess with the employees money because you don't like the practice.

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Nope, but without accountability on how the DSC is being applied, I am not forking over 5% on top of my cruise fare to a billion dollar corporation.

 

If they showed a report at the end of each cruise in that pile of documents that are received on the last day - even a cursory statement - I would be happy. Saying something like:

 

"Thank you for cruising with us. The hard-working crew would like to thank you for your gratuities. A total of 3700 passengers contributed $52,300 of discretionary service fees this sailing and this will go directly to staff, who will receive approximately XX. Your tips are appreciated and we hope you enjoyed your cruise."

 

I don't support a tipping economy, it should be abolished, but if we are going to have it, make it transparent and accountable. It is not unreasonable for us to be able to know how a "discretionary" fee is being allocated. Otherwise, don't make it discretionary.

Since they're a publicly traded company that information is actually available.

What do you think the SEC is, and what do you think they have to do with "income/expense"?

I know you're trying to be snarky because you think the SEC only deals with like insider trading and merges.

However, you do actually have to submit financial statements/records to them.

If you're using say ~300K a day of funds you've declared as expenses as income instead they will not be happy. ( Yes, I'm sure the IRS would get involved as well )

Other than NCL's communications to passengers about "how many behind the scenes benefit", do you have any way to prove or account for how the DSC specifically affects what they receive? If anything?

 

How do you know it doesn't just go into NCL's coffers?

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So the government passed a law to include all the charges in the advertised price except one of the biggest ..... the sales tax.:confused:

So when you're comparing prices between dealers it's not relevant.

Though I agree that in general in North America sales tax should be included in the advertised price everywhere

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Girl power. I’m guessing you’re not married?

 

 

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"The doctor was a woman?!"

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No second day at sea. Forward motion has stopped.

 

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You're saying propulsion is down?

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Currently ALL power is out !!!

 

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What’s the daily drink $ rate that the 20% is figured on?

 

 

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Pretty price to get these days without the promo.

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I stand corrected and apologize. I checked back with one of those scopers and they said they were mistaken at that time. Too much booze I guess. It was Fake News and I am guilty of spreading it but I least I apologize.

 

They did say that it was significantly higher than Royal’s.

 

 

 

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Of course most people who want the package will be getting it through the promotion and will only pay the 20%.

Since we'd be getting the package anyway the value/experience of ncl is a good deal for us.

But that's not the same for everyone.

I did obviously like it better when they included the gratuities on the package as part of the promotion.

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It's possible someone got confused about the VAT that's being charge in some ports.

If a port requires the ship to pay VAT on alcohol, it's also required to pay that VAT on a drink that's included as part of the package. The value is the same, so the VAT is the same.

Some cruise lines eat those costs and don't pass on the charge to the pax, some do pass on the cost. NCL passes on the cost to the passenger. So in some ports you'll have a small charge even when you have the package. Outside of those ports they normally don't even present you with a paper bill/receipt if you have package, making it more difficult to tip extra.

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Plus they inflate the "value" of the DP to something like $80 per day so they can calculate the daily gratuity

 

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When did you sail and on what ship and was the DP included in the fare? These are recent scopes of those onboard.

 

 

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Just do a mock booking on ncl and you'll see it.

Most recent trip for me was the Sun in December, with the package included as part of the promotion.

And I've got three cruises on ncl upcoming where I've already paid the grats on the promotion packages.

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Also, the booze cruises from ncl are the 3 and 4 Sky cruises where it's open bar without the requirements of a drinks package.

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How do you buy a package that is already included as part of your fare?

 

 

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You don't have the option of not paying during final payment.

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