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In there lays the problem, after reading @Megabear2 experiences and P&O's lack of action it doesn't fill you with any confidence.

Posts 202 & 204.

Depends what ship though. The older ships are pricing at times up to £350pppn as previously posted 😳

Nothing surprises me anymore about the lengths not just P&O will go to extract your money. That said P&O (Carnival) seem to be getting experts at it recently.

Wow, extreme or not, I'm not normally shocked but what you have encountered and the absolute shocking response from P&O would put me off them for life. Regardless of how the alcohol was purchased, no one should have to endure such behaviour anywhere, let alone a cruiseship. I applaud your resilience, if it happened to me I'd never set foot on a P&O ship again.

In the grand scheme of things I'm of the opinion that it is the odd bottle in the odd cabin.

But would P&O then stop you purchasing on your cruise card, I suspect not. This is what makes the change pointless, they are not going to stop rowdy behaviour by banning to odd in cabin bottle, they need to deal with those who create the behaviour by removing them at one next port.

I totally agree. But what's has suprised me is the number of posts that suggests the frequency of booze related anti-social behaviour has risen so much. If that's the case, P&O need to address this by removing those individuals instead of removing the odd cabin bottle.

But that's where the hypocrisy of P&O shows, according to a previous post they are stopping it partly due to Carnivals HESS policy (Health & Safety) in short. Yet they'll allow you to purchase onboard for cabin use 🤔 It makes no sense other than profiteering.

Like you, it doesn't really impact me but I agree for others it may well be a cut to far. MDR menu choices have been reduced as have buffet options yet more additional pay restaurants added, alcohol packages added but now no alcohol to be taken onboard, limited shuttle service but a pay option is available the list is getting longer and longer. Reduced baseline prices are all well and good, but given the cutbacks are they cheap in real terms, only if you want the very basics maybe.

Not cynical at all, I see it as pure profiteering. That's fine, but time will tell if this will continue to encourage new customers once the loyal older ones have gone elsewhere. For a lot of families a cruise would not be an affordable annual holiday despite the cheaper baseline prices at the moment, the more P&O chip away the less enticing they'll become. @posford is what appears to be extremely loyal with several cruises a year, how many of them can they afford to lose? As I said before, P&O should deal with those causing the issues not alienate your loyal customers.

But surely P&O/Carnival have caused their own problems, they've changed their cruising model to accommodate cheap baseline prices cruises, with that comes the behaviours some have witnessed. @posford is the victim P&O's inability to deal with a very small minority of people onboard causing anti-social issues, if this happens remove them at the next port it's that simple, doing so will be 100% more effective than stopping the odd bottle of spirit in the cabins. P&O have created their own perfect storm, cheap cruises and alcohol packages but they seem to want to put the blame on the customer.

So with that in mind, they should stop selling alcohol packages and bottles in the shop, revert back to selling in onboard bars only.

But that would surely be a contradiction of the HESS policy mentioned earlier, unless of course you can't have it until you disembark, if not it stinks of profiteering.

Well unfortunately that's P&O's own fault, this obviously occurred prior to this announcement therefore those onboard shouldn't of allowed people to walk around with open bottles of spirit, inline with the policy that was already in place.

Hang on a minute, in your previous post you said "the young adults drunk peeing on deck 7" now you're saying the crew are trained not to serve drunk people. It doesn't make any sense.

Laughable, they'll encourage you to take an alcohol package which allows 15 alcoholic drinks a day, then hide behind a healthy & safety to stop you taking a bottle or two onboard.

Who knows, but I certainly wouldn't pay that sort of money for a P&O cruise, adult only or not. Perhaps it's time for land based for a while.

But they would at least know, and could make an informed choice.

"Come down in real terms" really, in earlier posts it was suggested over £200 & £300pppn excluding drinks 😮. Not the new ships admittedly but nethertheless it doesn't exactly fit into the real terms bracket. Ultimately for me, the way this was implemented was underhand and not acceptable.

I followed Selbourne on their cruise, I can't recall this type of behaviour being mentioned.

If that was the case, it is rather hypocritical selling drink packages.

High prices, older ships good if they can keep it going. If not, Australia, New Zealand perhaps?

Agreed, but they are quickly coming to the end of their commercial life, then what?

I think it's very unlikely that the policy was changed because of the odd few pouring their own and if the waiters are encouraging it, then can't blame the customers for that. As has been said, this change is as a result of low baseline prices, wanting to sell packages etc.