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10 minutes ago, lambs2 said:

I have been at Disney World all this week with extended family and you would never know there was a Corona Virus Pandemic. Been to all four parks and have only seen 3 or 4 folks wearing masks. DW has hand sanitizer available everywhere and I know we have been washing our hands with soap and water and not touching our faces.  Our NCL sailing is still on, so far, and we intend to take similar precautions and spend LOTS of time on our balcony breathing in FRESH air. 

Disneyland Park and Disney California Adventure CLOSE due to the coronavirus outbreak
Disneyland and Disney California Adventure will both close starting Saturday
No coronavirus cases were reported at the parks, but closure is a precaution
It is only the sixth unscheduled closure in Disneyland Park's history 

Daily Mail.

9 minutes ago, Cruising Chuck said:

So have you quarantined yourself for the last 14 days?  What is your point?  You cant live your life in a bubble.  Jesus, I would imaginw right now Cruise Ships are probably cleaner than most hospitals.  Like I said, I hope you enjoy your future cruise, but MTFO and let us enjoy OUR cruise.  Stop fanning the flames of rumors, mystics and snake-oil salesmen.  What do you know that we don't?

I work in a big ER in Seattle. Want me to say it? I will get banned, but if it saves one life I will. 

Things are getting very real in Seattle. Schools have just been closed for six weeks, and the government is warning about other impending measures. There have already been four cruise visits cancelled for various reasons last time I looked. I read that 1.3 million cruisers cycle through Seattle each year. Things are hitting the fan here. I know that people won't want ships with 4,000 people in quarantine being tied up downtown for weeks on end. We will pay dearly for that. We don't have the medical resources to take care of them. The public will go nuts if they think Granny has been denied a ventilator because some cruise person from outside the State is on one.

I predict that the government will close Seattle to cruise ships for the 2020 season, and within a month we are on an Italian style lockdown. No one in. No one out.

20 minutes ago, OceanBlueWaters said:

Good grief...

Yea, she might want to delete that 'logical' bit. 

People think it is just a cold, and won't happen to them because they will wash their hands when they go on board, and use a napkin, and that it is all just a joke caused by Trump, the Democrats, Soros, global warming etc. The thing is, we know very little about it. Here is a good one:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8104477/Doctors-claim-new-coronavirus-cause-damage-mans-TESTICLES.html

New research coming out of China says that it infects the sperm producing male hardware the same as it can kill your kidneys. No one seems to care about dead old people, but maybe they might if it turns out that men will be shooting blanks for the rest of their lives if they get a good dose.

52 minutes ago, MagnoliaBlossom said:

We have friends currently on the Getaway. She is a nurse and clean freak and has emailed that she is well pleased with onboard services. We sail in two weeks so we were glad to hear it.


76 past cruises
Upcoming:
NCL Getaway 3/29/2020
NCL Breakaway 1/10/2021
CCL Dream 5/16/2021

It's all fun and games until it goes airborne.

47 minutes ago, kramonas said:

We are scheduled to go this coming wednesday on the Sky, but im not sure we are going to be able to go.

 

My wife is a florida school teacher, and some of the other florida counties announced today that if any employee goes to another country or on a cruise, they must self isolate for 14 days. and they won't pay, you have to use sick time (if you left prior to today, they would pay).

 

So without that much sick time, nor wanting to lose 2 weeks pay and miss school, we may be left with no choice.

 

Spring break starts tomorrow, so im watching to see what our county does.

 

https://

komonews.com/news/nation-world/inslee-to-order-seattle-area-schools-shut-down-for-6-weeks-due-to-coronavirus

1 hour ago, kelib said:

I like the $40,000 for a studio which I am sure will come down.

Plus 25 minutes of free internet. If it works.

The give you a refund via FCC, but then an inside cabin costs $30,000. Each.

Nice one.

Dude drops a baby out a window and he sues. Granny gets quarantined for a month and sues...

5 hours ago, MrsKC08 said:

Only you can make this decision. I got off the Getaway this past Sunday (3/8/20) and would jump on another cruise ship tomorrow if I could. The ship was cleaner than any other cruise I've been on and they were everywhere with spray bottles spraying everyone's hands as they came and went off the ship. Quite honestly, you are just as apt to get this or any other type of virus from your local bank, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. The ships are definitely upping their policy for sanitation and cleaning.  

As for returning back to work and school. I've also seen this being reported by others, but it wasn't the case for me. Actually, we learned today that someone from the company two floors up from us has a confirmed case of this virus and the CDC and health departments both told us there was no need to close down the office and keep people away. FYI, that person hasn't been in our building since last week while I was cruising! So, everyone was concerned and giving me a hard time about coming back with something when it was actually here already!

I don't know about banks, but restaurants where I live are closing, and in the supermarkets everyone is giving everyone else a wiiiide berth, or they go at 5.00am when they are empty.

An infectious diseases expert named Michael Osterholm gave an interview saying he believes it is airborne through ventilation systems. I work in a hospital, and have been wearing an N95 mask for the last two nights for just that reason.

5 hours ago, MrsKC08 said:

Some schools here have closed too, but quite honestly...they have closed in the past for flu too. I believe it is more for the peace of mind for the parents than anything.

Nah. We really do have quite a few dead people. 30 in my area that we have been told officially. BTW, most schools to the north and east of Seattle go out tomorrow. Some are out for six weeks. Some aren't even doing online learning. They are just closed.

1 minute ago, sanger727 said:

oh good lord. If you are really concerned this disease might put you in a body bag I’m not sure why you would even step outside your house. Nothing is 100%. I don’t know, maybe I have a different perspective because I have a job where I know walking in each day I may die. But a cold virus doesn’t concern me enough to change my behavior.

I work in a job where I could die any day as well. I work in an ER in Seattle. I'm actually heading there right now. Good luck. Stay away from door knobs.

Wife ordered 50lb bag of rice on Amazon on 3/5 to add to our store room. $50.

Price went up to $80.

Now sold out.

Is rice the new toilet paper?

2 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

Sorry to hear that.   Actually, I think closing schools is a better plan of action than banning entry for a certain subset of students who have traveled.  As a retired school principal, I can tell you that if our district imposed a restriction on the return to school for those who had traveled via cruise ship or some other questionable method/location, many parents would lie in order to avoid the quarantine.  Sad, but true...at least in my district.

A few weeks ago we had (I am 100% sure) patients that were lying about having returned from China. Now we treat everyone the same, and Chinese patients no longer come in to work. I don't know where they have gone, but the Chinese, Koreans, and drug addicts have all vanished from where I work. I am thinking it is the same as what happened in Wuhan, where people hid because they were scared of being quarantined. 

7 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

Wow.  Sounds like a law suit in the making.

Our schools are closed. But we have dead people.

Newsflash: Seattle Public schools are closing immediately.

6 minutes ago, julig22 said:

Are you for real - duh.  Excuse me for using the term allergy instead of intolerance for expediency and a little privacy. I am fully aware of the issues I have.

Anyway, I just had a shipment of safely goggles come in, and I need to see which ones fit before I go to work. Nice chatting to you. Sorry if I was mean. Stay safe.

1 minute ago, julig22 said:

Are you for real - duh.  Excuse me for using the term allergy instead of intolerance for expediency and a little privacy. I am fully aware of the issues I have.

If you are going to have a technical argument, you need to be precise. Otherwise you weaken your argument and look foolish.

Tell me, why do Pathologists wear masks when they do autopsies? Because they are scared of making the patient sick?

4 minutes ago, julig22 said:

When talking to one of my doctors the other day about the whole surgical mask discussion, I suggested we all get those full-face masks they have for snorkeling - but that you'd have to put something over the snorkel to filter the air as well.

When I went to my doctor on Monday he was wearing a mask. Was that because he was sick? No, he was worried he was going to catch something off me. But, masks don't work, right? So, why would he wear one?

1 minute ago, julig22 said:

When talking to one of my doctors the other day about the whole surgical mask discussion, I suggested we all get those full-face masks they have for snorkeling - but that you'd have to put something over the snorkel to filter the air as well.

We have something just like it at work. It is called a PAPR. Workers with facial hair use them as an alternative to N95's, as the hair prevents getting a proper seal. There is another version called a CAPR, but I have never used one.

9 minutes ago, julig22 said:

Dude - you are totally missing my point.  You are in a very high risk environment.  And I bet you change your mask and gloves constantly - if you don't, then you are risking contaminating your whole hospital.  I said wearing masks may or may not be effective and  they give a false sense of security.  I wear masks all the time (not for medical purposes at this time) and the tendency to touch my face is way up when I do.

Sure a person could be asymptomatic  - and they are touching everything just as much as the next guy.

Not that it is any of your business but as to not knowing the difference between a cold and an allergy - until I was diagnosed I assumed they were colds because I'd never had allergies before. Now I know they aren't colds but a reaction to those individuals who chose to bathe in perfume without regard to the rest of the world.

'Allergy' to perfume is usually actually a multiple chemical sensitivity/intolerance. It isn't actually an allergy as such. They way to check if you are having symptoms of an 'allergic' reaction is to take a normal dose of Diphenhydramine, and see if the symptoms resolve. If they do it was probably an allergy, but without specific allergy testing it can be hard to tell.

1 minute ago, Newleno said:

it is all about learning so that you are protected, dude someone coughs, sneezes in an elevator, well guess what you are exposed,  thats the fact jack!

If you are near someone who coughs or sneezes, immediately hold your breath, and walk away. Upwind if possible, but just get as much distance as you can as soon as you can. If you are able, stick your nose down your shirt, hold the collar closed, and breathe as shallowly as you can until you can get away. We do it at work if we get caught out without a mask for some reason. On an elevator, hit the next button, and get the hell off. Don't get back on that elevator for a while. Don't care that you look stupid. There are no points for being the kool kid in the body bag.

2 hours ago, wampuscat7 said:

 

Exactly. The nursing home is at the center of it, but how many people in the community have those people possibly infected? Staff members have been out in their communities buying groceries and doing the normal things. 

11 other WA nursing homes have infected. At one of them the Executive Chef is infected. 

SEATTLE -- In the wake of an "unprecedented health emergency" in the Puget Sound region, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a ban Wednesday on gatherings and events of more than 250 people in virtually the entire Seattle metro area to try to stop the spread of the COVID-19 outbreak as the region announced a 26th death in connection with the coronavirus.

The ban covers King, Snohomish and Pierce Counties and affects gatherings for "social, spiritual and recreational activities. These include but are not limited to: community, civic, public, leisure, faith-based, or sporting events; parades; concerts; festivals; conventions; fundraisers and similar activities."

"It is clear that our state needs a more vigorous and more comprehensive vision of how we're going to stop the spread of this epidemic," Inslee said. "This is not your ordinary flu. This is a virus that the experts tell us are at least 10 more potentially fatal than the flu and it demands a response consistent with the nature of the threat."

I predict that Washington State West of the Cascades, South of Mt Vernon, and North of Olympia will be under strict travel restrictions within a month. Probably sooner. Just my prediction. 

12 hours ago, tjmaxwell said:

 

I'm part of a Facebook group for this cruise and saw an interesting post from someone.  They are not concerned about getting the disease or necessarily even being quarantined.  They are concerned with returning home and the stigma involved with returning to work/school.  I've heard about companies requiring employees that choose to cruise to stay home from work for 14 days after cruising.  I'm self employed, so this isn't an issue for me, but I'm worried about my kids at school.  God forbid anyone gets sick, but if my kids or I somehow got sick and spread it to others, that would be a hard thing to live with. 

 

I'm torn on what to do.  We've all been really looking forward to this, but I'm wondering if I'm being irresponsible by taking them -- especially with what's going on in NY too.  Anyone else in a similar situation?  Any advice?

You think your schools will be open in three or four weeks? Really? Wow.