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Blackduck59 - Just in case you are able to come back to NZ another time, many think the South Island is more picturesque.
Although a small island compared to the area of the Rockies - Mt. Cook 3724m is just short of Mt. Robson BC by 230m.
Photos:-
1/ Mt. Cook 3724m
2/ Mt. Tasman 3497m
3/ Franz Josef glacier
4/ Fox glacier
5/ ss Earnslaw coal powered lake steamer built 1912.
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NCL Encore, Bliss & Spirit going into cold layup at Portmouth, Virginia, USA.
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Mic you left a word out - SERVICE.
When I went to sea I worked on Cargo Liners. Pre container refrigerated vessels that mainly ran from UK to Australia & NZ.
Prior to each vessels planned voyage, notices were placed with agents & in the maritime press. These stated that the named vessel would be accepting cargo for listed ports at a certain berth warehouse up to a certain date. This was the service.
They also carried a few passengers. Up to 12 with no doctor onboard.
When I emigrated to Australia I came out on the P&O liner Iberia. She departed Tilbury & picked up passengers in Rotterdam, Cape Town & Durban for landing in Cape Town, Durban, Fremantle, Adelaide, Melbourne & Sydney. This was a liner voyage as apposed to the repositioning cruise I did a few years ago on the Sapphire Princess. She departed Southampton landing & picking up passengers in Rome & Dubai. As it was a cruise we went to various other ports between these two ports.
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First cruise ship waiting to go to layup has arrived at Labuan.
Azamara Journey is waiting to be moved to layup anchorage in Brunei Bay along with quite a few other vessels.
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Bob - There is not a lot of info regarding the evacuation of Costa Concordia. Most problems were caused by the list & it should have happening an hour earlier. Although the crew were given a Lloyds medal for it.
The staff captain Roberto Bosio - I believe he was the hero of the incident, is now master with Costa.
2nd officer Simone [male] Canessa - there is some evidence that he is a safety officer with Costa.
Because there was no emergency signal early on when it was obvious that the engine room was flooding & vessel would sink, the emergency elevators continued to work when the emergency generator was working. This caused several deaths.
I will send you pdf's of Star Princess inquiry by UK authorities.
The Italian findings of C-C, & a critique of C-C by a consultant UK master mariner.
Changing IMO [SOLAS] rules would take years.
John
Bosio & Canessa earlier
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Wellington to Auckland train went into the Whangaehu River at 2210-15 on 24th Dec. 1953 after a lahar damaged the rail bridge.
151 of 285 onboard died.
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Is this the same mountain that derailed the train in the 1930's?
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Way off track!
Costa Venezia & Artania have joined the group at Manila Bay.
Golden Princess is clear of Singapore Strait & bound for Manila.
Amsterdam & Carnival Splendor are at Jakarta.
Noordam is alongside in Los Angeles.
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So most have forgotten Costa Concordia - the last cruiseship lifeboat evacuation.
First there was no Emergency Muster Drill done after the last port.
There was a couple found - alive - in their cabin.
There was no emergency signal sounded until the abandon ship anouncement.
The master - capt.coward spent most of his time on his phone talking to the office & the officers were too ill trained to take any action except the staff captain & at least one second officer, they left the bridge & organised the crew to prepare the boats.
Boats departed as soon as the abandon ship was announced. Some may have left before.
Only 2 boats failed to launch due to the list. Some boats returned for a second load.
The second officer was the last to leave the ship that night after getting people down the port side ladders to waiting boats.
The last 3 found onboard were in a lift at the bottom of the lift well.
Had things been done as per the Star Princess fire nobody need have died.
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Princess employed a contract cleaning company after crew left Diamond Princess in Yokohama.
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SOLAS requires all persons onboard to partake in the muster drill & the crew additionally in a Boat drill.
It also requires all persons to be shown the correct wearing of the Lifejacket.
There are several types of approved lifejackets.
The crew drills are at another time & not turnround ports. Boats are opten taken away & crew exercised in boat handling. Boat crews are from the seaman section onboard.
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Would not comply with SOLAS without going to your MUSTER Station - as it is currently done on Princess.
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NO - Mic QM2 is only one or the other & really we are not talking about that but the ignorant ones who use those 2 words that make it an oxymoron. Invented by lazy media that we know nothing about the suject.
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Crew onboard during a layup could be as low as 1 between a group of vessels together.
Sort of caretaker. This happens when the owners weld up the doors & no machinery is running.
Cruise ships would have more as there maybe some work going on & our ch.eng. said they would keep the AC running, otherwise mould would become a real problem.
Again every layup is different & it depends on what the owners are thinking for the future.
The 100 crew number was for a warm layup where the ship would be back in operation in a few months.
Some of the ships may never go back into operation. Then either sold or scrap.
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lyndarra - you forgot to put the word ignorant in above.
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Pacific Aria is in Manila Bay.
Amsterdam is approaching Jakarta.
Golden Princess is still alongside at Port Klang.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CRUISE / LINER - it is an oxymoron invented by lazy ignorant media.
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Although Capt. Cook named many places in NZ he did not see Milford & he was doubtful he could get Endeavour out of one of the southern sounds - so he called it Doubtfull Sound.
Photos :-
1/ Southern sound
2/ Stirling falls named by HMS Stirling
3/ Milford
4/ Waterfalls after rain
5/ Bowen falls
6/ Mitre Peak - 1682m - only without cloud 1 day in 7.
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Depends on many things. Where the lay-up area is & access to a port. How many ships & if it is an anchor layup, dock or buoy mooring.
Cruise Ships into Lay-up
in Australia & New Zealand Cruisers
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David - photo is Brunei Bay but not current.
Most vessels waiting with Azamara Journey are Bulk Carriers with a couple of Gas & Oil tankers plus a rig, a vehicle carrier & a container ship.
There has not been a time when a number of cruise ships have gone into cold layup. So no photos available.
It's hard to gnow for sure what vessels are in cold layup at Brunei Bay as there AIS would be off.