littlelulu01

Spending more just to have water is hard to swallow.

How you spend your money is up to you' date=' I have better uses for my money.

 

I would like them to include it in the BP.

I'm not prepared to spend more on a package just to get water and I am sure other cruisers would agree.[/quote']

 

I don't think many currently purchase the plan. It is already more than most care to spend but if an included perk many, would probably take it for say $20 service fee per day vs the $15/day service fee they now pay. $20/day for canned soda, speciality coffee, water bottles and alcoholic beverages sounds much better than $15/day plus another $20/day or more for the non alcoholic beverages. And since they now give as a perk on insides, it seems the most reasonable solution to me.

 

Sure it would be nice if they didn't raise the cost and just included it like the other lines do but the other lines have their packages already priced at a point where people actually pay for it if not received as a perk. NCL's is too high for oop purchase for most so I highly doubt they'll just give more value to an overpriced perk. Raising what we pay for the perk by giving what all the other lines already include gives consumer a valid alternative and gives NCL more $ because a lot more people are going to choose it/pay the service fees now that they can't bring any liquids on. Sure the coke people will still be angry. I'm a Pepsi drinker but if Coke is all a place serves I live with Coke.

I've been saying this all along.

If Celebrity can include water in the package why can't NCL without raising the price?

Celebrity's package is $10+ cheaper' date=' they include the gratuities, plus top shelf premium liquors, specialty coffees, juices,[b'] unlimited amounts of bottled water.[/b]

I don't expect NCL to just add coffees, bottled water and canned soda without raising the price that consumers pay oop even if taken as a perk. I'm ok with that. I just don't want to be given something that says its ultimate when it's a very substandard product. Charge me more but at least include these things so that I don't look at the perk as a joke. Let's be honest. The UBP if purchased oop would benefit very few at this point. Since it's already priced so high that very few purchase oop why not just go higher and include these drinks. At least they get away from the nickel and dime label that people can't stand.

Two articles in different travel sections is hardly a "ton of traction." I really doubt anyone cares that much. Fox reported it because USA Today did - and Fox got it wrong ("You can't bring beer onboard any more".)

 

I would think the late night people would find some quotes funny:

 

"They don't have MY water available onboard, so now I can't cruise with them."

(this should be an entry for "Overheard in Whole Foods".)

 

They could also show people where are their "deleted" posts are located on FB since some can't seem to find the "Visitors Posts" link on the side of the page.

 

First-world problems are actually quite funny.

 

The reality is that you have:

• People who can't afford to cruise. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who can afford it, but choose not to cruise. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who have CAS or UBP and drink whatever (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who drink the included beverages or just buy an occasional soda or bottled water. (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who didn't know you could bring drinks onboard (Doesn't affect them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who won't sail Norwegian because it sucks and want "proof". (Affects them. They're not customers. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who like complaining. (Affects them greatly. Norwegian doesn't care. They're going to find something to complain about.)
  
• People who don't like Pepsi, water, juices, coffee or tea. (Affects them. Norwegian doesn't care, unless it's a medical condition. Get a note. Problem solved.)
  
• People who won't drink tap water. (Affects them. Buy a $15 filtered, reusable water bottle. Fill it in the buffet. Fill it in your room. Problem solved. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  
• People who can only drink water bottled from the Ganges (or Mississippi, whatever.) (Affects them. Get a doctor's note. Problem solved.)
  
• People who can barely afford cruising, and need to bring cheap drinks with them. (Affects them. Norwegian doesn't care.)
  

 

So, for all the 50+ pages of ongoing discussion, there are very few groups that I see are actually impacted by the rule. Very few of those groups probably matter to Norwegian. I'm sure I'll get slammed for this, but it's the reality. If you can barely afford to cruise, I don't think any cruise line wants you onboard - they get you onboard so you can spend more money, and that's where their profit lies. (See Cruise, Inc.) That's why ships have casinos, bingo, bars and restaurants.

I disagree. What about the majority of people who have the UBP that says free drinks and then they realize that the "free drink" package is going to cost them about $15/day. Well that's ok but... then they have to pay for a couple waters each day at $8-9. Then they have to pay for specialty coffees each day. They have to pay for a can of Pepsi. Many people do want a cold can of Pepsi and not a watered down one in a cup. So the free drink package ends up costing the occasional drinker and person who wants a few waters, a couple of coffees, perhaps a fresh squeezed juice more than they would pay without the free package.

When you look at all the other mainstream lines and their packages they do include these types of drinks in their beverage package. When people find out that NCL is not only the only line who doesn't include them but also that you get to pay such an phenomenal markup? That's when you realize the UBP package is kinda a joke, the beverages you want to drink are going to cost you an arm and a leg and that's when people run to a competitor and book with them. NCL does care about those lost customers. I have always been amazed that NCL UBP at $100/day doesn't include soda in a can or water bottle or specialty coffee. I for one don't want to lug cases of water and Pepsi onboard. I want to pay for an "Ultimate" beverage package that includes what the other lines include. The fact it isn't is absurd. I really do hope they can be done with all this unflattering business of advertising a free drink package that includes very few non alcoholic drinks, raise the price of the UBP and just let the customer pay one price and be done with it vs. this nickel and dime business which is really just making them look pretty bad.

If the end goal is to get more $, don't label packages that are the least inclusive industry wide AND cost the most. Just charge $5/day or whatever the target revenue is and give a comparable product so that I don't have to look at my non alcoholic bar bill and realize how much was not included in my UBP.

Glad to hear you had fun. Did you make advance reservations for dining? I would like to take it day by day and not plan dining in advance.

They would absolutely use this as an excuse to increase the UBP package price considerably, so I'm hoping you are wrong. I don't care to pay an inflated 18% on the package price for things I don't want.

 

Although I would never consider buying the UBP at even the current price, the "free" promo UBP given with booking is nice, even with having to pay 18% on the package price. But if they up the price, we'll pay even more for the 18%. I don't drink pop, and rarely a specialty coffee. If I want one, I'd rather pay a couple bucks rather than pay an inflated price for things I don't want.

I understand where you are coming from but if you think about it from a non drinker's standpoint or someone who drinks very little, they may take the UBP perk just for ease sake. If in a suite it comes with your room regardless and you don't pay the gratuity. It's built into your fare.

It would be much more palatable to me to NOT to have to pay extra and full price for each bottle of water, can of soda, pelligrino, speciality coffees... Those all add up. for someone in a suite who had it built into their fare it's in your face that each speciality coffee, each can of soda, bottle of water is listed, charged for, service fee and all. So in that person's case you have this perk that was paid for in your higher fare and yet nothing you are drinking is covered!

Then there's many who only have one drinking person or two who drink very little. They choose the perk thinking that ultimate beverages up to $15/drink are included only to find out the ultimate beverage package will get you just about anything with alcohol in it but just about nothing without. So I'd rather pay $5 more per day in fees and just not worry about my water or coffee or canned soda tab at the end of the cruise- which with this new rule could be a whopper of a bill even with the UBP!

Hi All,

Since we cant bring any bottled water on our cruise with NCL effective 7/15/16 sailings.....is Bottled water now going to be included in the UBP? or is NCL going to just reduce the price of a case of water from $78.00 down to the normal $2.99 per case?

 

Maybe this FDR decision was started to alleviate the passengers from having to travel with or buy our own cases of water at the ports...maybe NCL is looking out for us as weary tired travelers and are happy to take this burden off of our plate...im sure there is NO financial motivation whatsoever...

 

They should increase there helicopter pads on the ships due to people dying of dehydration cause they dont want to pay $78.00 for a case of water...more older people will be visiting the infirmary...this is a sad day for NCL past passengers...

NCL has received so much slack for the nickel and dime. It's stuff like having an Ultimate BEVERAGE Package and then realizing that you don't even get a bottle of water with it that lends to the label. It really is misleading to call it the UBP and should be renamed the Ultimate alcohol and fountain soda package. Reading posts about how a person can't even get a non alcoholic version of a coffee alcoholic beverage seems absurd.

I don't even care if they increase the UBP package by a considerable amount per day to make up for the additions. Including water bottles and specialty coffees at minimum. To be in line with other programs it should also include canned soda.

I'm really hoping that is the next change and is announced soon.

Does anyone know the cost of a bottle of water? Lowest package of 6 bottles comes to a little over $4.50/bottle and that's with a 30% savings over purchasing on board. But how much if you want to take a bottle out of the mini fridge and how much for a bottle of sparkling water such as Pellegrino? Also can you get a bottle of water or Pellegrino fairly easily onboard say in one of the bars?

"It's a security issue, but we've received assurances from all active terror organisations that it won't be a security issue until July 15. Enjoy your cruise."

 

--NCL

And it's not a security issue if you bring a bottle of wine. As long as you pay the corkage fee it becomes ok. Someone should let TSA know that NCL best security practices say it's ok to bring bottles of wine but not an unopened can of coke. We don't know yet how much a security issue a shampoo/conditioner bottle is or isn't. According to TSA it's not ok to bring a full bottle of either but for security sake I'm guessing NCL will allow it, kinda like the wine bottle which completely negates the premise of security.

I could totally see them saying they want to make more money, devising some sort of package for water bottles, canned soda... and even charging a good chunk of change for it. Just not tell us the only reason is security when it's blatantly false.

If the change is for security purposes, what about a bottle of shampoo and conditioner? Is this no longer allowed? Conditioner is not provided unless in a suite. There's many people, including myself who simply cannot get a comb through their hair without it. Do they sell it onboard?

Also, not sure about the security thing. How is it ok to pay corkage on a bottle of wine that hasn't been opened and that's safe but a can of coke is dangerous? The airline security personnel certainly don't say that a 750 ml wine bottle is ok to go through security.

I paid a little over $5000 on Celebrity for an Alaska cruise this summer in a suite, which includes eating in their private suite restaurant. Included was the following..I would note that their beverage packages includes everything

 

Premium Beverage Pkg for 2

$150 pp to spend onboard

Prepaid Tips for 2

Unlimited Internet for 2

 

Actually got a $600 OBC from Celebrity and a $500 of my TA.

And your beverage package comes with free canned soda, preimum bottles of water, speciality coffees, fresh squeezed juice, smoothies and michael's club where you can grab some sodas or water bottles to take to your room. All of which make their package much more inclusive.

Even if not in a suite and you had the classic package you will still get water bottles, speciality coffees and canned soda, just minus a few preimum water bottle brands.

Perhaps they'll use this as an opportunity to restructure their ubp program To something like what celebrity has. I've always thought it really bad business that they offer an ultimate beverage package that doesn't even include canned soda, water bottles, speciality coffees...

If you sail in a suite the perks on offer are meant to be a way for people not to feel nickel and dimed but if a person has the ubp and doesn't drink alcohol the ubp gift has the exact opposite effect. It ends up being more nickel and dime to be, "given" a, "free" package worth $100pp pd and still need to purchase an extremely overpriced bottle of water, can of soda or speciality coffee. I personally would not care if they raised the cost of the UBP and started including speciality coffee, canned soda and bottles of water to justify it.

If you have the b2b booked as one cruise then it should cover all days. The price sounds right for the entire trip. I would call NCL or your ta and have them send you an updated amenities list.

I was able to book my b2b spa pass and when I asked they said it was for both legs.

Ohhhh interesting! We have the 9/28/17 sailing booked (best timing for us) and were disappointed because it was supposed to go to Nynashamn instead of Stockholm - so I just checked the itinerary and cruise timetable for Oct 5 and now it's supposed to be in Stockholm after all! Based on what I've read about difficulty in some ships sailing into Stockholm, though, I'm not going to count on it when the time comes....

Hi Hun. I took a look at the itinerary and not only does it now say Stockholm but it also now says Stockholm Archipelago for a full day preceding Stockholm! The 28th works best for us and I too am excited, but won't get hopes up just in case. Thanks for the heads up on the roll call.

First time cruiser here, we bought the UBP and I just re-read the terms: https://www.ncl.com/terms/ultimate-beverage-package

 

Does this mean we would have to buy bottled water? I drink a TON of water so should I buy a case and check it in with my luggage?

You can check water with your luggage. Water bottles are not covered under the UBP plan. You can also order a glass of ice water and it's covered. UBP doesn't cover anything non alcoholic in a can or bottle. Sounds really strange that you can get an expensive beer but not a bottle of water but it's just the way NCL's UBP is. I think the water on the ship tastes no different than the bottled water and so I usually just buy a bottle here and there and then try to hang onto it/ fill the same bottle and stick in the fridge at night so that I'm not wasting all that plastic and $.

Being given two perks, and knowing there was only one I'd actually use because I do buy unlimited internet, I took the shore excursion despite doubts that I would use it. The terms include a statement that "Shore excursion credit can only be redeemed by calling 1-866-625-1167 or booking onboard." As someone brought up the possibility of using that "shore excursion" credit to cover the port shuttles (not for embarkation or debarkation ports which are excluded)--something that can only be booked while on the ship, I had to wonder if anyone believed that would even be possible. I highly doubt that the shuttles to town would be labeled "shore excursion." As you note, indirectly, these transports are not listed as shore excursions. I will ask, but the cruise for which I have the shore excursion promotion is nearly a year and a half away.

I'm pretty sure you can switch them later on. I was able to. The key when switching is that you will only be able to switch to one of the perks offered when you booked so perhaps take a screenshot of them. If the shore excursions don't excite you when then are posted you can perhaps take the Internet?

If some other perk is offered down the road and before final payment you can cancel and rebook, if worth it new price wise, take the new perk. The prepaid gratuity perk was offered last August. I don't think I've seen it since then. That's worth $27/day for non suite. Value of free DSC goes up longer the cruise.

That would be worth something. Do you think an NCL port shuttle will be allowed as an "excursion"?

 

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Best to read the terms and conditions to see what perk you will benefit from the most. If booked in a suite all perks are given and the service fees associated with are included.

Credit is not good for embarkation or debarkation ports so if you were thinking transfer from or to airport it would not be allowed. Not sure how they work it for Epic med where you have a few different embarkation ports.

The shore excursion credit is a good deal for someone who was going to book excursions through NCL regardless. If you were planning on booking independent excursions it will most likely not benefit due to higher prices through NCL. You can look at the shore excursions available on your sailing to see what if anything you are interested in booking thru NCL. Costs and descriptions are straight forward.

Ubp great if you are planning on consuming more than a couple alcohol beverages each day but it does not include speciality coffee, water bottles or canned soda. You pay the gratuity on package so if combined, two people will be drinking more than $29 (service fees for two per day) in alcohol per day it's worth it.

You also pay the 18% on the free dining package but it's not much. Three speciality dinners will cost about $25 service fees total for two. They have some nice speciality venues. The dining package not applicable for some venues i.e. Dinner shows but they do offer a discount if you want to use the credit towards some non included venues.

The Internet is a good choice if you don't want the unlimited package. It can't be used as a credit towards the unlimited package upgrade. NCL announced a few months ago they were upgrading their entire fleet and that the new much faster internet will be available on all ships in July.

Extra guests sailing free is not a choice for all sailings but if available and you plan on having more than two in your stateroom you only pay the taxes, port fees and DSC for the extra guests.

I asked the question of NCL why they refer to the Daily Service Charge as gratuities as a free perk for POA cruises and this was the response from the Senior Director, Public Relations:

 

I apologize for any confusion regarding our daily service charges. Norwegian’s discretionary daily service charges make it easy for guests to provide gratuities to key onboard staff who provide superior guest service during the cruise including their room steward, restaurant servers and behind-the-scenes support staff. For the sake of brevity in marketing, we refer to them as “gratuities”.

 

Hopefully it will clear up any misinformation given on here about why they use both terminologies when referring to the Daily Service Charge.

Thank you for the clarification. I have always been a little confused about this subject. I figured since they advertise free gratuities at times that the DSC is your basic grats and if you want to give more for over and above you are welcome to but not necessary, not counting those specifically excluded as outlined by NCL. I've often read different opinions on these boards.

The basic grats being covered by the DSC makes sense. And now that they have the 18% for specialty dining it makes sense as well. I see that as extra tip you leave for the service received there and perhaps servers work there to get a bonus income above the DSC. The servers in the included dining options are often great but more often great in the specialty venues so I assume had to earn the ability to work specialty. I've been told they rotate every couple months and so some of the best servers on the ship will be in the main dining room depending on the rotation.

I've yet to find a room steward or staff that was not really good. It's what I like most about NCL. Sure you can tell the seasoned from the newer staff but at least the new staff are trying. I figure they are reimbursing their employees adequately if they are able to keep such good employees. There's a chance I've just been lucky but I think it's more likely that typically staff and service are great onboard because they are paid well and have a good work environment.

I really like the way NCL has it set up. No need to run around with a bunch of bills to tip everyone for everything. If I have some standouts I make sure and offer them extra, typically at the end of the cruise. It makes my vacations much easier not to think about money till the end and have most of what needs to be paid done before I step on the ship.

NCL must be doing something right with their wages and DSC and 18%'s on packages. It doesn't really matter to me what they are doing with those collected fees as long as they keep staff happy, which they seem to be doing on ships I've sailed.

Relatively easy. The island is a rural place except for the area in and around Corfu Town. So once away from town you are dealing with 2 lane country roads. A GPS is very helpful (we have our own) and, of course, you would want to have some kind of plan on where you want to explore. We enjoy driving up to the Northern part of the island. But on our recent trip we actually drove down the West side of the island (the roads were not as good as on the eastern side) all the way to the southern end...and it was too much driving for my taste. But we did it because it was the only part of the island we had never driven. My advice for a first-time driver on the island is to just plan on doing the half of the island towards the north of Korfu Town.

 

However, many first time visitors might be content to just spend their time in Corfu Town where there is plenty of shopping and restaurants. I think when we were on the island in April we rented from Royal (they are one of the agencies at the Port) but we have no real preference. There are several agencies at the port and we generally just look for the best price. In April we rented from Royal (http://www.royalcarsrental.gr) but we have no loyalty to this local company and normally just shop for price.

 

Keep in mind that most of the rentals are small cars with manual shift (typical of Europe).

 

Hank

Thank you! It looks like Royal is right near port. We have rented a car in Italy before and he didn't mind it but we had plenty of time to get lost, find our way ... With no ship to worry about missing. He wondered if it was crazy driving like in Italian cities, which he wasn't sure if he'd be interested in if just in port for a few hours. I told him I didn't remember it being like Italy driving but I didn't drive in Greece. Our tentative plans are to rent a car in Katakolon (with the company you mentioned in another post), Corfu, and one of two days in Santorini. Our first Santorini day is along with about 10k other cruise passengers so thought it best to get a car and get away from the crowds. Reserved one at Tony's car rental. Will save Oia for our second week visit with only our ship in port.

Whenever we are in Corfu we simply rent a car for the day (there are several rental agencies right at the port). A small car generally costs no more than 50€ for the day. We have never taken a boat tour during a port day...but have been to both Paxos and Antipaxos as part of a week long yacht cruise (which is a great way to explore the Ionian Islands.

 

Hank

Hank- would you consider driving easy in Corfu? We tentatively have a taxi tour scheduled for 3-5 hours for 200 euro. 50 euro and on our own sounds better but not if getting around is difficult. We'd like to go to a beach and perhaps see some of the island. Saw Corfu town last year -just walked there and back. Also do you have a rental company you would recommend? Thank you. Kim

I know the time of arrival/departure is not ideal with so many other ships in port but I think part of what you experienced was the excursion you took. I did the exact same one last year with the 2pm arrival and only a couple other ships in port.

Everyone who didn't have an excursion simply tendered to port and went about their day. I paid for the $70pp trip to Oia, bus to Fira and cable car ticket down to tenders. The people who did DIY or other ships excursions all raved about how easy, quick and uncrowded it was.

We arrived at 2pm. Our excursion was one of the last called from theater. We then boarded in groups ours was number 23 meaning the 23rd bus for this excursion. By the time we got to Oia it was after 3 pm and our bus back to Fira was at 4. We had less than an hour there. Since the excursion advertising says an hour i went to shore excursions and said something. They were really nice about it and said they just needed to verify our actual time in Oia so it's important to remember bus number. After verifying that we were actually there much less than an hour the excursion folks refunded us half the cost. I thought that was fair and a nice gesture but would have much rather the time in Oia.

We didn't experience the lines down for cable car you did because we were not there with 10k other people. But the excursion itself isn't the best one for getting to spend any amount of time in Oia regardless of how many other ships in port. The tender took us over to the other port and then bus back ate up time.

The other thing I felt bad about was that many people who had a little more trouble walking seemed to be on our bus, presumably booked for greater ease. They had a heck of a time getting from bus drop off back to cable car. I think it was billed as a level 2 activity but this year I think it's a level 3. There were many people grumpy about this. We had to help at the end otherwise the people who had canes would not have been able to get up the rocky hills from bus to Fira.

Last year NCL held our passports for a few days but I think it had something to do with visiting Turkey, which the ship is not doing this year. I think they told us to bring our passports for the Venice turnaround day. Otherwise I kept them in my safe. My understanding is that if you miss the boat, the contents of your safe are given to the port authority and so it's not like the ship would leave with your passport as long as it was in your safe while you were ashore.

I will bring my passport card or a copy of passport for the ports that don't require us to bring a passport ashore and keep my passport in the safe onboard the ship whenever possible just because if we are going to a beach, swimming... I don't want to damage it.

If you figure out how many passengers are arriving on a given day you can estimate how busy the cable car will be. Our Jade sailing with the 2pm arrival in 2015 worked great because only one or two other ships in port and they left in the afternoon. I think it's the same with our Jade sailing this year on the week with 2pm arrival, which is the originally scheduled and not replacement Santorini day.

The cable car can only process 1200 passengers/hour. If 9-10k people in port arriving and departing around the same time I would think there's a huge issue even with providing enough tenders let alone cable car wait times.

I read that Santorini officials estimate 10% of passengers were not even getting off ship last year on busy port days and that 30% booked ship excursions on these crowded days vs 10% when only a couple sips in port. That along with the sheer masses of people to process, and much affected ability to enjoy the culture and ambience, led them to the decision to limit the max to 8k per day.

I got my email about the drop of Kusadasi and replace with Santorini January 29, 2016.

When I looked up how many other ships were arriving same day at same time I wondered how the heck all those passengers would get tendered at the same time. The 10 am arrival makes a little better sense from a tendering prospective but from a passenger view it means when Jade passengers arrive 8k people are already there.

The other lines who kept Turkish ports of call are selling for much less than the Jade. Regardless of the validity of safety concerns with Turkey, looks like NCL made the right call from a business standpoint. Many other lines canceled Turkish ports of call or altered at the last minute depending on what's happening on any given week this year. I think I'd rather have a crowded day in Santorini vs potentially pulling into a Turkish port and not allowed to get off ship unless embarking or debarking, which has happened for a few sailings with other lines. I think many of the Carnival sailings just replaced with sea days. I am happy that NCL made the decision to omit Turkey in time to at least get a replacement port. I assume Santorini on a jam packed day was the best they could negotiate but at least they got something.

I had a backup cruise planned on Celebrity who kept all ports of call. I ended up going with the Jade, not for fear of safety in Turkey or Israel, but because I figured the odds of sailing around with a bunch of extra sea days if something else happens are much higher on the Celebrity sailing. The lines who dropped Turkey nabbed the other available ports. Those ports are pretty packed as a result. Granted, anything can happen anywhere with all that's going on in this world but The Jade sailing, even with it's flawed extra Santorini day is more of a sure thing itinerary wise.

Like other posters have mentioned, if its a mass crowd so be it. Not much we can do about it now. In years past Santorini has had days with 9500-10k passengers in port and they seem to have survived.

Thanks for the report. I was worried when they replaced Kusadasi with a second port day in Santorini. I believe the limit is 8k cruise passengers in a day. Looks like they went over that amount when they allowed Jade that extra day every other week. The saving grace is that if on the two week sailing we will still get Santorini with only a couple other ships. But for the weeks with 8am arrival it looks like it will be a mess.

When the announced dropping Kusadasi I was eager to find out what the replacement was. Finding out it was going to be a repeat port with Santorini twice was a little let down but then finding out that they were also squeezed in on those days to allow over the max?

The good side of it? They increased the time in Split by a few hours since the ship isn't traveling to Kusadasi so we now have plenty of time to visit Krka. I've been waiting on reports from those who are experiencing the extra Santorini day. We may just decide to make it another sea day, enjoy pools on board and not mess with it. But for those who don't have a b2b it's the only option to see Santorini.

Yes there is a steam room on women's side of gym.

Btw, I just called to purchase spa pass and for the two week sailing was quoted $179 pp advance purchase discount.

Great review so far. Thank you for the clear directions and taking time to explain the details. Much appreciated. We will sail the getaway next year in Europe. First time in a mega ship so I'm loving the details about the sister ship.