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Wow...26 posts and nobody has posted anything about how it's against the rules to smuggle, morally wrong, ethically wrong, cruise prices are going to go up if you use them, RCCL's bottom line will be hurt if you use them and blah blah blah.

 

Go ahead you guys...I just donned my flame retardant suit.

 

It was once against the RULES to consume any alcohol in this country. That did not make it ETHICALLY or MORALLY wrong. Just because RC decided that they do not want to follow the cruise line industry norm to allow water, soda and wine to be brought on board does not make this morally or ethically correct.

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Though I personally am neutral to this topic, I have known people who have snuck bottles of Vodka on a cruise before. For me personally, it takes me about 20 minutes to get ready for dinner. So on my way to the room I get my favorite beverage from the bar, and that gets me till the time I am at the dinner table. Its not for me, but I could care less if people are doing it.

 

However, I must defend the people who believe this will drive the cost of cruising up. A cruise lines makes the most money from 3 areas 1. Cabins 2. Alcohol 3. The Casino. This is a fact (per MSNBC cruise special and a boss whose father was a cruise ship captain for 30+ years) not an opinion, look it up. This is why Disney cruises are more costly, because the large number of kids cannot drink or gamble. So if ENOUGH people are doing this, then they will be forced to make up the dollars in another, area, with the obvious choice being fares. The question is how many people need to do this before they start to see the blip in the profit margins. Guessing a large number (which based on these boards there may just be), especially if people are just using them as pre-dinner drinks.

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Recently returned from LOS. I purchased rum runners and filled a large one with water and two smaller ones with "contraband." I had no problem getting the rum runners on board the ship (or on the plane in checked luggage). As a matter of fact, I had one beer left over from the night before the cruise, put it in my carry on figuring if they want it they can have it. Had no problem with that either. Also got a gift from my friend who dropped me off at the ship (a few little bottled of Bailey's, and some vodka). Crammed them in the side pocket of my luggage before the porter took the bags and had no problem getting that through. Of course, I also purchased the cruise line wine package and plenty of mixed drinks. Having a little of your own liquor on board should not be a big deal. I like having a cocktail on my balcony when I want it and not having to wait for room service or go up to a bar to get it.

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FEED_MAN

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It was once against the RULES to consume any alcohol in this country. That did not make it ETHICALLY or MORALLY wrong. Just because RC decided that they do not want to follow the cruise line industry norm to allow water, soda and wine to be brought on board does not make this morally or ethically correct.

 

 

Its wrong when you agree via contract,That you follow the policy inforced but Rcl.If thats a problem then take your business to those other Lines.Your first comment on prohibition is not reasonable. It was not wether drinking is right are wrong it a question of what is the law at that time.What laws to you follow.Some people have strong beleives on many issues but as a free society we can not just tfollow the rules we choose.Come April 15th your going to pay you taxes wether you like the present administration are not. And who decides what is MORALLY OR ETHICALLY WRONG you are God

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FEED_MAN

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[quote name='precious_blue']So I suppose everyone here who's never smuggled alcohol on board... you've never done the same in a movie theatre? Just curious because it's the same thing essentially in terms of 'profit'. But we've pretty much all done it at one point in our lives. I can understand the frustration for those who sneak alcohol on board to avoid any bar tab, but by the majority of the posters here, not very many of those people are CC members. Therefore, the cruiseline's still making profit because we still order their expensive, over-priced froufrou drinks, in those collectible plastic glasses, and bottles of wine, and drinks by the pool... so really, how are they losing profit???[/quote]

I have broke the speed limit and have done more stupid things then most.Does that make it right.Thats a slippery slope.Since we have all sinned then its ok to break the laws.I quess this explains why we have the Leadership in this country that we do.And I mean on both sides of the Partys.
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mjldvlks

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[quote name='cruiseknots']As I stated, you do have a valid point.

However, when you enter into this cruise contract you do so because you must or you can't go.[/quote]

Which changes nothing. When I can afford to drop a billion or so for my own cruise ship, I can make the rules. Until then, I have to deal with [and comply with the terms of] those that do. It's their business. Except for the relatively few areas where law or regulation require the cruise line to comply with certain standards or make the terms of an agreement unenforceable, there is nothing unfair, illegal, or unethical about having to comply with their rules or stay at home.

[quote] One item that you are agreeing to is a limit of liability on your luggage of $300.00. Two Tommy Bahama shirts is worth more than $300.00. So if you had a suit case packed with clothes with a value of more than $1000.00 and RCI looses or destroys your bag, you would not try to get the actual value for the goods that were lost, destroyed or stolen? You did agree to the $300.00! So based on your statement, you should not seek more than that?[/quote]

Trying or asking for more than the agreed limit of liability is not at all the same thing as willingly and knowingly violating a a stated and agreed policy. However, if that is what the agreement says, then that's what it says. I wouldn't be surprised or come whining to Cruise Critic if that's all I got. Anyway, that is what insurance is for.

I said in my original post that I don't claim to be perfect and I am not trying to point fingers, this is a personal thing with me. I am sure there is something in my past that violates some rule or even law [I do have a speeding ticket or two in my past -- but not recently (look up "energy hawk" but that's a different story)]. Anyway I personally do not subscribe to the two [or more] wrongs make a right theory. Just because I might be able to prove Feed-Man or whoever is inconsistent in his argument or even hypocritical does not make my violation of MY AGREEMENT any less a violation.
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[quote name='Bosjoe']Remember they keep more of a profit and don't pay a tax to the states, more profit to them. At least I bought my alcohol in Taxachusetts and paid something to the country. :)[/quote]
Hey Bosjoe I have a license plate from the 50's with a metal strip that my uncle made attached to the top that says Taxachusetts. Some things never change huh! We can only do our part and buy more alcohol!
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FEED_MAN

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[quote name='mjldvlks']Which changes nothing. When I can afford to drop a billion or so for my own cruise ship, I can make the rules. Until then, I have to deal with [and comply with the terms of] those that do. It's their business. Except for the relatively few areas where law or regulation require the cruise line to comply with certain standards or make the terms of an agreement unenforceable, there is nothing unfair, illegal, or unethical about having to comply with their rules or stay at home.



Trying or asking for more than the agreed limit of liability is not at all the same thing as willingly and knowingly violating a a stated and agreed policy. However, if that is what the agreement says, then that's what it says. I wouldn't be surprised or come whining to Cruise Critic if that's all I got. Anyway, that is what insurance is for.

I said in my original post that I don't claim to be perfect and I am not trying to point fingers, this is a personal thing with me. I am sure there is something in my past that violates some rule or even law [I do have a speeding ticket or two in my past -- but not recently (look up "energy hawk" but that's a different story)]. Anyway I personally do not subscribe to the two [or more] wrongs make a right theory. Just because I might be able to prove Feed-Man or whoever is inconsistent in his argument or even hypocritical does not make my violation of MY AGREEMENT any less a violation.[/quote]

Why are people offended by someone suggesting that they should follow rules.
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[quote name='FEED_MAN']Why are people offended by someone suggesting that they should follow rules.[/quote]

Feed Man, it is okay, take a deep breath, exhale ... repeat. It is okay, you do not have to worry about everyone's moral path. It will work itself out. Just enjoy and own your own cruise experience. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, isn't that better?
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[quote name='LS6Caddy']Though I personally am neutral to this topic, I have known people who have snuck bottles of Vodka on a cruise before. For me personally, it takes me about 20 minutes to get ready for dinner. So on my way to the room I get my favorite beverage from the bar, and that gets me till the time I am at the dinner table. Its not for me, but I could care less if people are doing it.

However, I must defend the people who believe this will drive the cost of cruising up. A cruise lines makes the most money from 3 areas 1. Cabins 2. Alcohol 3. The Casino. This is a fact (per MSNBC cruise special and a boss whose father was a cruise ship captain for 30+ years) not an opinion, look it up. This is why Disney cruises are more costly, because the large number of kids cannot drink or gamble. So if ENOUGH people are doing this, then they will be forced to make up the dollars in another, area, with the obvious choice being fares. The question is how many people need to do this before they start to see the blip in the profit margins. Guessing a large number (which based on these boards there may just be), especially if people are just using them as pre-dinner drinks.[/quote]

Your argument is not a valid one because it assumes that all things are equal between the two cruise lines.

Disney is able to charge more for their cruises because people pay it. Why do they pay it? Because most people here would agree that it's a higher quality product. While, Disney is not everyone's cup of tea, they do what they do very well. Also, Disney has brand recognition, a wholesome image, and a highly respected level of service. This is what their customers are paying for. Think about it, if the only difference in price between Disney and their competitors is the lost revenue from the bar and casino, people would not pay the higher price on Disney.

Don't believe everything you see on TV. Especially MSNBC. Just because something is stated on TV doesn't make it a fact. I've watched nearly all of those programs that go behind the scenes of Walmart, American Airlines, NCL, Nike and many more. In each episode, these large companies portray themselves in a very positive light and as a victim just trying to survive in today's economy. These programs are more like long commercials for the company featured in them. Let's not forget that NCL made some very bad business decisions. But I guess that had no affect on NCL's bottom line? Edited by cruiseknots
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[quote name='FEED_MAN']Its wrong when you agree via contract,That you follow the policy inforced but Rcl.If thats a problem then take your business to those other Lines.Your first comment on prohibition is not reasonable. It was not wether drinking is right are wrong it a question of what is the law at that time.What laws to you follow.Some people have strong beleives on many issues but as a free society we can not just tfollow the rules we choose.Come April 15th your going to pay you taxes wether you like the present administration are not. And who decides what is MORALLY OR ETHICALLY WRONG you are God[/quote]


[B]Hmmmmm......... must be a lawyer.........and you know where we like to toss them.........lol.[/B]
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[quote name='nanner10']Feed Man, it is okay, take a deep breath, exhale ... repeat. It is okay, you do not have to worry about everyone's moral path. It will work itself out. Just enjoy and own your own cruise experience. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, isn't that better?[/quote]

Just a heads up to the Rum Runners.Posting your pics bad Idea.RCL looks at these boards for customer service.
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[quote name='maggieq']Why don't you just buy pints, bubble wrap and then zipock bag them and put inside checked bags.

Never had a problem since 2004.....[/quote]
That is what we have done with no problems.

I also have another little way of smuggling, but have not seen it on here so I will not spoil it in case the powers that be at the Cruise Lines are listening.

I will say for the people that of course will criticize, (you know the holier than thou types) I NEVER brought a bottle on board a Royal Caribbean Ship until they stopped the ...buy a bottle, pay $9 in room service fee on board deal. After that all bets were off. We are not children, we are adults. Treat us that way.

We buy the wine package, every cruise. Plus, we usually buy one or two "expensive bottles". We drink (probably to excess, but hey we are on vacation!!!!) so the seapass card reflects that. We gamble and book excursions thru the cruise line.

So just to say....IT..AIN"T ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited by cruisingatortoo
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[quote name='FEED_MAN']Just a heads up to the Rum Runners.Posting your pics bad Idea.RCL looks at these boards for customer service.[/quote]

Hey, if Royal Caribbean takes the time to memorize my face and seek me out on my upcoming cruise, then by golly, they deserve to catch me with my Rum Runners! LOL
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[quote name='cruisebunnies']The smuggling of booze is best summed up by the fact that the people who do smuggle are just TOO DAMN CHEAP!You can justify it all you want but that is the bottom line![/quote]

Or just a lot smarter!

One could say those who don't smuggle their booze are just TOO DAMN LAZY! But that wouldn't be true either. Would it?
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