seasearider59 Posted January 17, 2011 #1 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Friends of ours do not have passports. They are an unmarried couple and she has a 7 year old Son. $450 is quite a price for them to pay, seeing how they do not travel often. Will Birth Certificates get them on the ship and back into the States? Another question.....The Son's Father is not in the picture. He is no where to be found. Will this cause any problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelntreats Posted January 17, 2011 #2 Share Posted January 17, 2011 [/i]ider59;27541441]Friends of ours do not have passports. They are an unmarried couple and she has a 7 year old Son. $450 is quite a price for them to pay, seeing how they do not travel often. Will Birth Certificates get them on the ship and back into the States? Another question.....The Son's Father is not in the picture. He is no where to be found. Will this cause any problem? BC's and photo ID (for the adults) are sufficient FOR THE CRUISE......BC is all the child needs...... If trying to get back into the US or missing the ship for some reason from a foreign port of call BY AIR, the passport is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcgoldr Posted January 17, 2011 #3 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I sailed in June with BC and DL only and just BC for my son's. I had a notorized letter from their mother giving permission to leave the country with them, but was never asked for it. It was a Key West/Cozumel trip. I have heard stories about denied boarding for parents traveling alone with a child and no letter from the other parent. May want to consult an attorney to see what is needed to show the father is missing in action. On a side note, my next cruise I am getting passports for it. Since I have learned more since sailing, I don't like the idea of being out of the country without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chowder_17 Posted January 17, 2011 #4 Share Posted January 17, 2011 BC's and photo ID (for the adults) are sufficient FOR THE CRUISE......BC is all the child needs...... If trying to get back into the US or missing the ship for some reason from a foreign port of call BY AIR, the passport is necessary. You also need one if your port is different at disemarkment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 17, 2011 #5 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Birth Cert .. AND a valid photo ID, like a drivers license for the adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In2why Posted January 17, 2011 #6 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Friends of ours do not have passports. They are an unmarried couple and she has a 7 year old Son. $450 is quite a price for them to pay, seeing how they do not travel often. Will Birth Certificates get them on the ship and back into the States? Another question.....The Son's Father is not in the picture. He is no where to be found. Will this cause any problem? Birth Certificate and State issued picture ID is all that is needed. For the child, it depends. On Carnival's website there is a section that explains that to disembark in some ports....Cozumel....you need signed permission from the absent parent to cruise and disembark. We had 2 children with that situation when we left on Legend in December. One of us was asked for the letter in Tampa and one of us wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightninggirl Posted January 17, 2011 #7 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Friends of ours do not have passports. They are an unmarried couple and she has a 7 year old Son. $450 is quite a price for them to pay, seeing how they do not travel often. Will Birth Certificates get them on the ship and back into the States? Another question.....The Son's Father is not in the picture. He is no where to be found. Will this cause any problem? When I booked my cruise for this thursday, I was told that a birth certificate and photo ID was sufficient. As long as you are in a closed loop ship and you are leaving and returning to the same port you don't need a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkgun Posted January 17, 2011 #8 Share Posted January 17, 2011 As long as you are sailing "closed loop" from a U.S. port you can get by with an original birth certificate (not a copy) and a govt issued ID. As far as her child she may need to ( or should ) have a letter from the dad giving permission for the child to travel unless she has documentation showing her as the sole legal guardian. She will generally be ok.... most people never get asked about it. Enjoy your cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomaeande Posted January 17, 2011 #9 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Not that I don't believe everyone else. I just know that on the last cruise we went on we were told we had to have a passport. I just checked the State Department website and found this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelntreats Posted January 17, 2011 #10 Share Posted January 17, 2011 You also need one if your port is different at disemarkment. Not that I don't believe everyone else. I just know that on the last cruise we went on we were told we had to have a passport. I just checked the State Department website and found this. "Closed Loop" cruises are excluded from the Passport requirement when departing and returning to the same US port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsacubfan Posted January 17, 2011 #11 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Not that I don't believe everyone else. I just know that on the last cruise we went on we were told we had to have a passport. I just checked the State Department website and found this. "Closed Loop" Cruises: U.S. citizens who board a cruise ship at a port within the United States, travel only within the Western Hemisphere, and return to the same U.S. port on the same ship may present a government issued photo identification, along with proof of citizenship (an original or copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular report of Birth Abroad, or a Certificate of Naturalization). Please be aware that you may still be required to present a passport to enter the foreign countries your cruise ship is visiting. Check with your cruise line to ensure you have the appropriate documents. http://www.getyouhome.gov/html/lang_eng/eng_sa.html Perhaps the cruise you were on either 1) did not leave from a U.S. port, 2) did not return to the same U.S. port from which it left or 3) visited a foreign country that required a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadTripFanatic Posted January 17, 2011 #12 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Since the dad is out of the picture you need a notorized letter from the courts stating you can take him out of the country. I read somewhere that if you are going to Mexico they are more likely than not to ask for that letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truchattycathy Posted January 17, 2011 #13 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I sailed four times with only a BC and a drivers license. The child whose father is no where around can cause a problem. Call Carnival and there is a for that either they or the state dept. has that you fill out in such a case. I do not know all of the details, but I would get the form and follow the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelntreats Posted January 17, 2011 #14 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Since the dad is out of the picture you need a notorized letter from the courts stating you can take him out of the country. I read somewhere that if you are going to Mexico they are more likely than not to ask for that letter. CONSENT FOR MINOR CHILDREN TO TRAVEL Date:_____________________ I (we):______________________________________________________________ authorize my/our minor child(ren):___________________________________________ to travel to:_________________________________ on:_________________________ aboard Airline/Flight Number:________________________________________ and/or Cruise Ship:_____________________________________________ with: ____________________________________________________________. Their expected date of return is _______________________. In addition, I (we) authorize:______________________________________ to consent to any necessary routine or emergency medical treatment during the aforementioned trip. Signed:_________________________________ (Parent) Signed:_________________________________ (Parent) Address:________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Telephone:______________________________________ Sworn to and signed before me, a Notary Public, this _______ day of _______________, 20____ ________________________________________ Notary Public Signature and Seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rrraydon Posted January 18, 2011 #15 Share Posted January 18, 2011 My daughter, now 12, and I cruise frequently without my husband, her father. She has been on at least 7 cruises w/o him to many ports (Mexico, Jamaica, Grand Cayman, Bahamas, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico and the list goes on..) and we've never been asked for anything other than the normal document..BC. Honestly, I never really thought about it since we are married..I know it's silly not to, I mean how's anyone supposed to know that just because I said so. Anyway, I think it's a rarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 18, 2011 #16 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Have your friend make sure that the BC is a gov't issued one, NOT the one from the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Y Posted January 18, 2011 #17 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Hey Gang! I require all of my hosses to have a passport. You never know what can happen on an excursion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenaInWyo Posted January 18, 2011 #18 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I was really worried about this on my last cruise too, since my children's father is also completely out of the picture and there was no way to get a signed consent from him. After a call to carnival I brought my divorce decree stating I had sole custody of them. We were never asked for it. It would be wise to bring that along just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwebber Posted January 18, 2011 #19 Share Posted January 18, 2011 BC's and photo ID (for the adults) are sufficient FOR THE CRUISE......BC is all the child needs...... If trying to get back into the US or missing the ship for some reason from a foreign port of call BY AIR, the passport is necessary. Do you think you could never return to the US without a passport in an emergency? Like Charlie on the MTA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandjfun Posted January 18, 2011 #20 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Like everyone else has stated here, the BC's will work if you are leaving and returning to the same US port. Make sure they are certified copies of the birth certificate, issued by whatever state they were born in. Now, about the child. I would hate for you to get to the port just to find out that you don't have the necessary document for him/her. I strongly suggest you call carnival (at least twice!) to get the exact truth on what you need to have to board. I would think that if the BC doesn't state a fathers name, you wouldn't be required to have a letter. Or a divorce decree stating the custody of the child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasearider59 Posted January 18, 2011 Author #21 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thank You All for the great information! Now, one of our port is St Thomas USVI....The last time my Husband and I went, before we disembarked, we all had to walk through the diningroom and show our passports as we walked by. Never thought anything of it, but it is the US. Does anyone think that port will be a problem without a passport? That maybe they would have to stay onboard? I think I'm thinking about this too much, right? Thousands of people cruise daily and you never hear that some nice tourist family was refused entry to St Thomas just because they did not have a passport. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rrraydon Posted January 18, 2011 #22 Share Posted January 18, 2011 St. Thomas does not require a passport. They do ask for documentation..not specifically a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knights on the Beach Posted January 18, 2011 #23 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thank You All for the great information! Now, one of our port is St Thomas USVI....The last time my Husband and I went, before we disembarked, we all had to walk through the diningroom and show our passports as we walked by. Never thought anything of it, but it is the US. Does anyone think that port will be a problem without a passport? That maybe they would have to stay onboard? I think I'm thinking about this too much, right? Thousands of people cruise daily and you never hear that some nice tourist family was refused entry to St Thomas just because they did not have a passport. LOL They would simply show the same documentation they used to get on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelntreats Posted January 18, 2011 #24 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Do you think you could never return to the US without a passport in an emergency? Like Charlie on the MTA? Well I guess there has to be a smart a** on every thread......Yes travel back to the USA is very possible w/out a passport, but the question is at what costs to return and how long before able to return given that you would have to go thru the US Embassy or port authority to get the proper documentation for air travel. Perhaps you will now come off your holier than thou pedestal.....Geeeeeesh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwebber Posted January 18, 2011 #25 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well I guess there has to be a smart a** on every thread......Yes travel back to the USA is very possible w/out a passport, but the question is at what costs to return and how long before able to return given that you would have to go thru the US Embassy or port authority to get the proper documentation for air travel. Perhaps you will now come off your holier than thou pedestal.....Geeeeeesh ! I doubt the cost would change because you don't have a passport and the US Embassy would probably be just as helpful getting you home regardless from countries you can visit from a US port. I just get tired of people posting that somehow you MUST have a passport if you get stuck in port or have an emergency and have to get home. I don't think I've seen a single post from someone who has had to do that saying what was involved and whether they had a problem if they didn't have a US passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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