Age for Adult Only Area??

[H82seaUgo]

Just had to comment on this thread!

 

Most places in the world you are legaly classed as an adult at 18 years of age and although the legal drinking age in most of the United states is 21 surly people between the ages of 18 and 21 are classed as young adults by older adults?

 

In Australia most young adults are through with binge drinking by the time they reach 21 as they have been allowed legal access to "all things" adult for 3 years already!

 

Not criticizing your laws but

 

I cant believe a 20 year old or even an 18 year old would be expected "by some" to give up a lounge chair in an adult only area for somebody 21 or older:confused:

 

 

Den (Australia)

 

these aren't laws. they are rules. just like no one under 16 in the gym, or booked in a cabin under 18 without another in the room over 25, or whatever that rule is.

 

and these all come about due to abuse, are the poor action of some.

 

that these areas were created at all is interesting. there was a time where the adult only area was the topless section. and that was wasted space, which had more topless oogling men than women. but there was no revenue.

 

but I find these serenity areas boring. at any age.

[zonabelle]

Just out of curiosity I was wondering judging by some of your posts your not a big fan of kids are you? Let me clear up a few things for you about my kids and my wife and I. I am not perfect neither are my kids. Will they be in the adult areas. No not once they dont belong there. If my kids become bothersome they will be removed from the situation. I do believe my kids deserve their vacation. I did pay for them to go. Have a good cruise. :D

 

You are partially correct... I am not a fan of unruly, sassy, undisciplined children. We all have countless, boring stories of instances when this subset of children have disrupted or sullied the good time of others around them who are forced to endure the behavior. One of my "pet peeves" is when the parent continually tells the child to stop the behavior over and over but does nothing to enforce what they have directed. Then we all get to hear, "stop that right now.... I mean it.... we are going to leave if you don't stop now" (which of course is a threat never carried out). Or the parents that constantly count to 3 or 5 or 10. Kids are not cars who need time to decelerate. They really need to immediately stop when told to do so. I guess there is something to be said for the fact that at least those parents are doing something - albeit ineffective - as opposed to the ones who ignore the bad behavior altogether. But honestly, I get fristrated and irritated in both instances and if at all possible remove myself. Sometimes though, like when we have paid for a dinner out or at a group get-together, it is not possible to leave so I am stuck.

I won't even address the parents who are defensive, think their children are angels, entitled, etc....and will fight with anyone who dares to think otherwise. We all know that is ridiculous.

Actually I love kids who demonstrate manners and respect and it is always so refreshing to meet them. I also have many stories that I enjoy telling of how much these children enhanced the experiences I shared with them over the years.

I do blame the parents of the aformentioned unruly children. I also think Dr. Spock bears some responsibility for introducing a concept that has been twisted to the point that many kids are raised thinking they are small adults who should be vocal with their opinions and allowed to do anything they please. :rolleyes: :eek:

I have a son who was also not perfect when he was a child but he did know his limits. His father and I were definitely in charge and supervised him. It sounds like you have a similar relationship with your children and that you are actually parentling, something that I am sure we all agree is sadly missing way too often anymore. I would be happy to share the ship with you and your children anytime and maybe we can all avoid the bad apples, both child and adult.

[DZNYROX]

You are partially correct... I am not a fan of unruly, sassy, undisciplined children. We all have countless, boring stories of instances when this subset of children have disrupted or sullied the good time of others around them who are forced to endure the behavior. One of my "pet peeves" is when the parent continually tells the child to stop the behavior over and over but does nothing to enforce what they have directed. Then we all get to hear, "stop that right now.... I mean it.... we are going to leave if you don't stop now" (which of course is a threat never carried out). Or the parents that constantly count to 3 or 5 or 10. Kids are not cars who need time to decelerate. They really need to immediately stop when told to do so. I guess there is something to be said for the fact that at least those parents are doing something - albeit ineffective - as opposed to the ones who ignore the bad behavior altogether. But honestly, I get fristrated and irritated in both instances and if at all possible remove myself. Sometimes though, like when we have paid for a dinner out or at a group get-together, it is not possible to leave so I am stuck.

I won't even address the parents who are defensive, think their children are angels, entitled, etc....and will fight with anyone who dares to think otherwise. We all know that is ridiculous.

Actually I love kids who demonstrate manners and respect and it is always so refreshing to meet them. I also have many stories that I enjoy telling of how much these children enhanced the experiences I shared with them over the years.

I do blame the parents of the aformentioned unruly children. I also think Dr. Spock bears some responsibility for introducing a concept that has been twisted to the point that many kids are raised thinking they are small adults who should be vocal with their opinions and allowed to do anything they please. :rolleyes: :eek:

I have a son who was also not perfect when he was a child but he did know his limits. His father and I were definitely in charge and supervised him. It sounds like you have a similar relationship with your children and that you are actually parentling, something that I am sure we all agree is sadly missing way too often anymore. I would be happy to share the ship with you and your children anytime and maybe we can all avoid the bad apples, both child and adult.

 

 

Good to read then:D My wife teaches 4 year olds in a private school. Some of the parents don't parent thier children at all and my wife detests it. I agree with you that some peoples idea of repeated useless warning that something is gonna happen (that never does) or the counting thing which to me is is just silly. Maybe we will see each other someday on a cruise...and I promise I wont count:D

[LATHAN NAUL]

these aren't laws. they are rules. just like no one under 16 in the gym, or booked in a cabin under 18 without another in the room over 25, or whatever that rule is.

 

 

How does this rule work with couples under the age of 25? I can't help but thinking of the honeymooners being told they couldn't vacation on the ship because neither one of them was over 25?

 

And I'm thinking the age is 21 because I went with a friend prior to both of us being 25 and we did not have an issue.

[mariamherrera]

I would never ask the staff to check the id of any one that is 18 or older. Many of these young ADULTS are in the service. If they are old enough to go get shot at in the service of their country, they are old enough to sit in an adult only area.

 

 

I agree at 18 your old enough to get married, buy a home, join the military, etc I dont' see any reason why if your just there relaxing and not causing a scene why you shouldn't be able to sit there and enjoy the area

[DaDivaMom]

Recently on the Freedom, our daughter who is 21 and is tiny 5' looks about 15, was carded each and every time she came up on Serenity.

 

I don't agree with the rule but on some ships they do enforce it at times just so you know. That said, if you aren't drawing attention to yourself you may be able to enjoy the area without being asked for id.

[Chigirlcruzin]

How does this rule work with couples under the age of 25? I can't help but thinking of the honeymooners being told they couldn't vacation on the ship because neither one of them was over 25?

 

And I'm thinking the age is 21 because I went with a friend prior to both of us being 25 and we did not have an issue.

 

Married couples can sail together.

 

People that aren't married need to be 21 to sail. If they are under the age of 21, there needs to be a 25 year old guardian in the room. Kids can be booked in their own room if the parents are right next door or immediately across the hall.

 

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[momof3cruisers]

I would never ask the staff to check the id of any one that is 18 or older. Many of these young ADULTS are in the service. If they are old enough to go get shot at in the service of their country, they are old enough to sit in an adult only area.

Agreed. And hey, I would rather be in the company of a sober 18-20 yo over a drunk 21 yo anyway of the week!

Oh no - there was most definitely a point.

 

and it was funny! Zonabelle, you can cruise with us. My kids are polite and I don't count or give repeated warnings. I have an excellent "look" though that gets my point across really well.;)

[sheephugs]

We just came off the Legend. Within 30 minutes of sailaway from Tampa, we were approached by Security while we were at the railing (not taking up any seats) between the wooden screen that separates the seating/hammock area and the stairs that lead to deck 10. He asked how old our daughter (will be 20 next month) & niece (18) were. We were just watching the land go by - no high pitched shrieking/giggling or other distracting behavior. We were told they must leave. The sign says "adults only" which is defined elsewhere on the ship as 18 (casino, adult comedy show, Medusa's lounge, etc.).

 

My sister asked at the service desk where it said 21. The clerk pulled out a book to find it. Meanwhile, he offered to have security meet my sister at serenity area to show her the sign. He couldn't find it in the book and got a call from security, which he moved into another room to take. He did admit there there was nothing saying adult is defined as 21 for serenity but, I guess in an effort to cover his embarrassment, became flustered and said that they could change it to 27 if they wanted to. I guess our point was that if they want it to be 21 and other areas specifically define adult as 18, they need to post that and not cause embarrassment to us by being shooed away and treating us like we were trying to get away with something.

 

We just never went back and spent our sea days with our girls in other areas. That was the only disappointment and everything else about the cruise was awesome! Oh, BTW, I was up early one morning and did walk a circle around that deck around 6:50 am and ALL of the clamshells/hammocks were claimed with towels/books and only 1 had an occupant (and no one was in the pool). Looks like that doesn't get policed :-)

[Swampbabe]

On the Sensation, it most definitely says that you must be 21 years of age or older.

[near the beach]

Carnival says you must be 21. They make the rules. Just go and sit down. The worst that could happen is that you would be asked to leave. I would prefer a quite 20 year old to a noisy person over 21 to be in the Serenity area.

[zonabelle]

Agreed. And hey, I would rather be in the company of a sober 18-20 yo over a drunk 21 yo anyway of the week!

 

 

and it was funny! Zonabelle, you can cruise with us. My kids are polite and I don't count or give repeated warnings. I have an excellent "look" though that gets my point across really well.;)

 

It's a deal! Please, please be in the cabin next to mine. We book balconies and it would be a pleasure to sit and read in peace and not hear ear-piercing screams, strange thumps and the dreaded countdown for hours at a time! Feel free to share that "look" with all who need it. Mine has gotten rusty but it used to work so well.

 

And really - I don't have 2 heads and fangs! :D