bugspost Posted January 21, 2012 #376 Share Posted January 21, 2012 http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120121/world/woman-s-body-found-in-stricken-ship.403264#.TxsMSVi8dCE.facebook Divers have found a woman's body in a submerged section of the grounded Costa Concordia, raising the death toll in the cruise liner tragedy to at least 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 21, 2012 #377 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hi All News report the finding of a body and that DNA will be required to prove who it is. This must be so hard on the divers. yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahav1 Posted January 21, 2012 #378 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Unfortunately this incident sparked many editorial cartoon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickEk Posted January 22, 2012 #379 Share Posted January 22, 2012 YES a life boat is a far superior choice to going in the water with a life vest. But if the disaster is very bad or the captain does not order an abandon ship until it is to late (Bad PR for a cruise line to order an abandon ship you know) Then the last resort is into the water with a life vest and that likely means death from hypothermia in alaska and north sea Personally, I don't think it'd be bad PR for a cruise line to order an abandon ship in an apparent emergency situation. It would show that they take the safety of their passengers and crew very seriously. If it turns out to be a false alarm, so be it... it'd be story to tell the children. But if it was a real emergency, then you'd have everyone safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovevacadays Posted January 22, 2012 #380 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Here is that moving account from the deputy mayor of Giglio who boarded the first tender that came to shore and went out to the ship about 11:00 p.m. He was on the ship when it keeled over and stayed on until the last passenger was off at about 5:30 a.m. He stated he only ever saw one officer on the bridge and it was a very junior officer whom he characterized as a "young boy". It is interesting to note that he states it was easy for him to get up to the bridge because the ship was not listing yet, but he still found no officers there but the one very junior officer. This certainly suggests that the captain and the senior officers left the ship very early even before it began listing badly or had keeled over. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16638399 That is an amazing article and reminds us that there are truly wonderful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 22, 2012 #381 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi All The deputy major is one of the real heros of this night, he did not have to do what he did, he put his own safety at risk to help others. yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelab Posted January 22, 2012 #382 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Personally, I don't think it'd be bad PR for a cruise line to order an abandon ship in an apparent emergency situation. It would show that they take the safety of their passengers and crew very seriously. If it turns out to be a false alarm, so be it... it'd be story to tell the children. But if it was a real emergency, then you'd have everyone safe. I do not think that view would be widely accepted. They did not know which way the Star fire was going to go or how fast it could have gone out of control. They could have gotten half the passengers off the other side if safety was of primary concern and they chose not to. That said the crew and officers did a tremendous job handling that disaster otherwise. I would want that crew any day. From a business decision cruise lines in general have a PR incentive to delay evacuating a ship during an incident unless absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 22, 2012 #383 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi All Another body found this afternoon, must be so hard on the families waiting day after day yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Woobstr112G Posted January 22, 2012 #384 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi All Another body found this afternoon, must be so hard on the families waiting day after day yours Shogun Was reading the story on BBC after checking out your other link; tragic total is up to 13; very sad.....:(:(:( Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted January 23, 2012 #385 Share Posted January 23, 2012 While she didn't sink, I hate to point out that Star Princess 1 ran aground south of Skagway in the mid-90s and had to be evacuated. :o The only sinking of a cruise ship in Alaska's water that I know of was Holland America's Prinsendam in 1980 http://juneauempire.com/stories/092904/sta_prinsendam.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted January 23, 2012 #386 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Do you really think the decision to wait to abandon Star Princess was one directed by a business decision or a PR department? Do you not think that the Captain had the safety of the passengers and crew in mind foremost? While Star Princess was ablaze, the ship was stopped and turned so that the fire was not fanned by the wind. Passengers were mustered and were at their muster stations ready to abandon ship had the order come. The Captain was in complete control over the situation and was in constant contact with the passengers as to the status of the fire. The decision to abandon ship - when the ship can still be saved - isn't one made lightly - much safer to have all the passengers safe in their muster stations at the ready than to have loaded them into lifeboats and put them to sea. They did not know which way the Star fire was going to go or how fast it could have gone out of control. They could have gotten half the passengers off the other side if safety was of primary concern and they chose not to. That said the crew and officers did a tremendous job handling that disaster otherwise. I would want that crew any day. From a business decision cruise lines in general have a PR incentive to delay evacuating a ship during an incident unless absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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