abitaturbodog Posted January 15, 2012 #1 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I found this on the Costa board--it's the satellite positioning from the ship prior to crashing. The ship veers directly into the island! This is amazing! http://www.shipcruise.org/cruise-articles/435-costa-concordia-accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottsSweetie Posted January 15, 2012 #2 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I just saw this on the Costa board - and gave this same reply. It has been reported in the news that the Captain intentionally steered towards the island after the impact (thinking that this was a good idea to be in shallower water or near shore for the passengers). There is no way for us to tell, from this video, where the point of impact was. Does this video show him turning towards the island right at the point of impact, or was he off course and too close to the island when the impact happened? There is no way for us to tell from this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxation Posted January 15, 2012 #3 Share Posted January 15, 2012 That's pretty neat to see! Must of been when he hit whatever opened up the side before he then steered towards the Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted January 15, 2012 #4 Share Posted January 15, 2012 So what did he hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRRT Posted January 15, 2012 #5 Share Posted January 15, 2012 interesting, There was anouther vessel near it, did it cause it to go inshore? that vessel did not stop but gps shows many coming to it aid after it turned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted January 15, 2012 #6 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Interesting to watch all the other ships head straight to the island too afterwards. Great response from them to go help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted January 15, 2012 #7 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The catain and crew are the only ones who know what happened in the wheel house. With the captain in jail now it must have been bad but they are the only ones who can tell us exactly what was happening. All else is speculation?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendysue44 Posted January 15, 2012 #8 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't understand. Has that ship been on the same course before? Was the tide not right to travel there? A lot of questions need to be answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlt46 Posted January 15, 2012 #9 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thanks for posting this. It really is something to watch. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiapetti Posted January 15, 2012 #10 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thanks for your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRRT Posted January 15, 2012 #11 Share Posted January 15, 2012 So what did he hit? CNN said a sand bar I guess with a big ass rock on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted January 15, 2012 #12 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The catain and crew are the only ones who know what happened in the wheel house. With the captain in jail now it must have been bad but they are the only ones who can tell us exactly what was happening. All else is speculation?. They recovered the 'black box' won't be speculation for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted January 15, 2012 #13 Share Posted January 15, 2012 CNN said a sand bar I guess with a big ass rock on it Just FYI CNN's reporting of this particular incident has been sketchy at best. Check out the sites for Sky News or UK Mail for thorough coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abitaturbodog Posted January 15, 2012 Author #14 Share Posted January 15, 2012 According to this site, the Concordia hit a rocky outcropping off the island, 8 miles AFTER it made it's course change. The Captain appears to have deliberately veered toward the island. http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abitaturbodog Posted January 15, 2012 Author #15 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Looks like the Captain of the Concordia has sailed dangerously close to the island as recently as October 2011....:eek: Maybe this is why he has been arrested. http://video.corriere.it/nave-concordia-al-giglio-/9dfa5ea6-3e9b-11e1-8b52-5f77182bc574 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted January 15, 2012 #16 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Looks like the Captain of the Concordia has sailed dangerously close to the island as recently as October 2011....:eek: Maybe this is why he has been arrested. http://video.corriere.it/nave-concordia-al-giglio-/9dfa5ea6-3e9b-11e1-8b52-5f77182bc574 I saw this too. Looks like the ship has done it before. Maybe this time a bit too close. Curious to see what the black box shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted January 15, 2012 #17 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The catain and crew are the only ones who know what happened in the wheel house. With the captain in jail now it must have been bad but they are the only ones who can tell us exactly what was happening. All else is speculation?. Don't make that assumption. The legal systems in most countries is very different than in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted January 15, 2012 #18 Share Posted January 15, 2012 But until we hear what happened from the captain, crew or the "black box" it is just guessing. They have the facts that will come out very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B and C Blake Posted January 15, 2012 #19 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I found this on the Costa board--it's the satellite positioning from the ship prior to crashing. The ship veers directly into the island! This is amazing! http://www.shipcruise.org/cruise-articles/435-costa-concordia-accident According to this site, the Concordia hit a rocky outcropping off the island, 8 miles AFTER it made it's course change. The Captain appears to have deliberately veered toward the island. http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/ Of course the captain veered TOWARDS the island. That was reported at 2am last night. The ship did not CRASH as you stated into the island. After realizing that the evacuation was not happening quick enough the captain attempted to get the passengers closer to land so that the Italian Coast Guard helicopters could evacuate at a quicker rate. I stayed up overnight out of curiosity with the updates. I'm trying to figure out when and where the jumpers jumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGeorgiaCruiser Posted January 15, 2012 #20 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Educated speculation............ From the GPS video it appears that the sudden change in direction toward the island was NOT a result of hitting something but was actually on purpose to give the passengers and possibly the islanders a nice evening view. If the hull had been breached at the time that the ship veered toward the island there would not have been enough time to get to the island before the ship took on more water than it could handle. Time will tell and then we will all know the facts, but as it is unfolding now it looks as though the Captain veered off course on purpose and THEN, when closer to the island, he hit an obstruction which caused the hull breach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle1836 Posted January 15, 2012 #21 Share Posted January 15, 2012 wow. I actually thought he was trying to dock there. nice to see all the other boats head directly there for help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhh Posted January 15, 2012 #22 Share Posted January 15, 2012 North Georgia Cruiser, I think you are right. The video (a few postings back) taken of the ship passing close to the island indicates this was the intended course. (I guess the video is from an earlier time, but confirms that the ship passes this way by design) I think it is referred to elsewhere as the "tourism" route. The Captain indicated that they hit something that was not on the charts. These waters have been navigated for hundreds of years, this ship does this same route 52 times a year, it is a very curious matter and like others, I will be anxiously waiting to learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhh Posted January 15, 2012 #23 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Related to above posts about whether he sailed close to the island on purpose. From Huffington Post news: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/costa-concordia-crash-survivors_n_1207367.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D127696 "While ship owner Costa has insisted it was following the same route it takes every week between the Italian ports of Civitavecchia and Savona, residents on the island of Giglio said they had never seen the Costa come so close to the Le Scole reefs and rocks that jut from Giglio's eastern side." "This was too close, too close," said Italo Arienti, a 54-year-old sailor who has worked on the Maregigilo ferry service that runs between the island and the mainland for more than a decade. A now-retired Costa commander used to occasionally do "fly-bys" on the route, nearing a bit and sounding the siren in a special salute for his hometown, he said. Such a fly-by was staged last August, but there was no incident, he said." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelo7 Posted January 15, 2012 #24 Share Posted January 15, 2012 interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGeorgiaCruiser Posted January 16, 2012 #25 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Evidence is mounting..... Prosecutors believe Mr Schettino had been intending to perform the nautical equivalent of a fly-by past the island's main port when the accident happened. It had apparently become a long-standing practice for the Costa Concordia to sail close to the island in order to greet its inhabitants with a siren from the ship. The tradition appears to have begun when the wife of a former senior officer lived on the island and he would take the ship close to Giglio to greet her. There were reports last night that the vessel's current officers had a friend ashore, from the Italian merchant navy, that they wanted to salute in a similar manner. As the ship approached the port from the south, it sailed too close to the coastline and struck a rocky reef, known to locals as "Le Scole", a few hundred yards out. Islanders said they had never seen the ship try to pass so close before. Ships usually pass by up to five miles away. A 160ft gash was torn in the £370 million ship's hull, causing it to take on large quantities of water in minutes and list violently. The 4,200 passengers and crew were told to abandon ship. Franco Verusio, the procurator of Grosseto who is leading the investigation, said: "Schettino approached the island of Giglio in a carelessly clumsy manner. The ship hit a reef which embedded itself in the left flank, the ship listed and took on lots of water in the space of two or three minutes. Captain Schettino was in command at that point. "He was the one who ordered that course to be taken, at least according to what we have discovered. There was someone in particular that wanted to be signalled from the ship." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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