alaska_planner Posted April 14, 2012 #1 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The trip insurance that can be bought from DCL - is it 'cancel for any reason' insurance? i'm trying to understand what's covered, but i'm not making much headway. Anyway know how it covers you if you have to cancel after final payment? anyone have any experience with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 15, 2012 #2 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I prefer to buy insurance from insuremytrip dotcom. You can tailor it to your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted April 15, 2012 #3 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The trip insurance that can be bought from DCL - is it 'cancel for any reason' insurance? i'm trying to understand what's covered, but i'm not making much headway. Anyway know how it covers you if you have to cancel after final payment? anyone have any experience with it? I believe DCL insurance doesn't have "cancel for any reason" coverage. You'll find (usually) better coverage at a better price from private insurance. As PP has done, we also have used insuremytrip to find insurance. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneParticularHarbour 71 Posted April 15, 2012 #4 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Unless things have just recently changed, if you have purchased insurance through DCL and need to cancel for a reason not covered by the insurance, DCL will allow you to move the money paid for your cruise to another cruise date. You wont get a refund, but if you are able to cruise at another time, you wont lose any money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 15, 2012 #5 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Unless things have just recently changed, if you have purchased insurance through DCL and need to cancel for a reason not covered by the insurance, DCL will allow you to move the money paid for your cruise to another cruise date. You wont get a refund, but if you are able to cruise at another time, you wont lose any money. That can be done even if you do not buy insurance from DCL . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 15, 2012 Author #6 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i did look at insuremytrip, however our ages make anything other than DCL extremely expensive. DCL is less than half of anything available on insuremytrip. i'm trying to understand the DCL view of pre-existing conditions. also, if it ends up that you're not covered and you move the money to another cruise, can you also change the names of the cruisers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 15, 2012 Author #7 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i wonder if AAA has trip insurance that would cover a cruise. i don't have AAA, but the other two cruisers do. And they're the ones i want to be sure are covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 15, 2012 Author #8 Share Posted April 15, 2012 what's very interesting about the disney insurance - it doesn't seem to matter how old you are. The price seems to bethe same regardless. so i guess the insurance company averages out the risk across the passengers. it could well be, for older passengers, the DCL insurance is the better buy. if i could only figure out what's covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 15, 2012 #9 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i did look at insuremytrip, however our ages make anything other than DCL extremely expensive.DCL is less than half of anything available on insuremytrip. i'm trying to understand the DCL view of pre-existing conditions. also, if it ends up that you're not covered and you move the money to another cruise, can you also change the names of the cruisers? That would amount to a refund , which is not allowed. Just like airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 15, 2012 #10 Share Posted April 15, 2012 what's very interesting about the disney insurance - it doesn't seem to matter how old you are.The price seems to bethe same regardless. so i guess the insurance company averages out the risk across the passengers. it could well be, for older passengers, the DCL insurance is the better buy. if i could only figure out what's covered. There are two types of medical coverages. Primary and Secondary. DCL insurance must be Secondary coverage , meaning it only pays out the balance after your primary home insurance or other private insurance has paid out. Lot of paper work is involved and it will take time to get your money back. Primary insurance pays upfront with no questions asked.Medical coverage should be atleast $100,000 per person. One needs also medical evacuation coverage usually by helicopters, as highest as possible level, almost $250,00 minimum.So do your research before you buy, DCL gives no info of what it covers but it must very basic and Secondary insurance, so just a fig leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 15, 2012 Author #11 Share Posted April 15, 2012 no need for medical coverage - everyone's covered up to their eyeballs. the issue is cancellation insurance...that's what i'm trying to figure out... does DCL have a pre-existing condition clause on the cancellation insurance? and if so, who defines what was pre-existing. Just about everything is preexisting if the insurance company has a good lawyer. the only thing i'm interested in is cancellation insurance. (everything else is already covered or not of real importance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanneSLO Posted April 16, 2012 #12 Share Posted April 16, 2012 no need for medical coverage - everyone's covered up to their eyeballs. the issue is cancellation insurance...that's what i'm trying to figure out... does DCL have a pre-existing condition clause on the cancellation insurance? and if so, who defines what was pre-existing. Just about everything is preexisting if the insurance company has a good lawyer. the only thing i'm interested in is cancellation insurance. (everything else is already covered or not of real importance). According to the DCL website: "Pre-existing Conditions means: 1. Any injury occurring to You, a Traveling Companion or aFamily Member prior to and including the effective date ofYour insurance; and2. Any illness occurring to You, a Traveling Companion, or aFamily Member during the 60 days prior to and includingthe effective date of Your insurance for which: a) medicaldiagnosis or treatment by a Physician has been sought oradvised or for which symptoms exist which would cause aprudent person to seek diagnosis, care or treatment; or b)require taking prescribed drugs or medicine unless theillness remains controlled without any change in the required prescription." "Trip Cancellation coverage is effective when full payment is received by Disney Cruise Line." Hope this helps. -- Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 16, 2012 #13 Share Posted April 16, 2012 "Trip Cancellation coverage is effective when full payment isreceived by Disney Cruise Line." So basically till your final full payment, you cannot get cancellation insurance, so cannot cancel the trip without 50% penalty on the full fare . Third party cancellation insurance needs payment within 15 days of making the first booking deposit. Choose your poison :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdeans1010 Posted April 16, 2012 #14 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I noticed as a Washington resident I couldn't get DCL insurance. I didn't even look into it any further because come hades or high water I'm going on this cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsambam Posted April 16, 2012 #15 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Out of curiosity, how much does the insurance run on DCL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary from PA Posted April 16, 2012 #16 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Disney Insurance sounds logical as one usually cancels at the last moment due to unforeseen circumstances .Best is to buy it at time of final payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 17, 2012 Author #17 Share Posted April 17, 2012 here's the full DCL policy: http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/media/dcl_v0400/Site/Reservations/Media/InternetMediaType/CustomizeCruise/Insurance/VacationInsurance2.pdf i think i saw that the DCL policy is 8%. i checked with AAA - the DCL policy is slightly less for our ages (would probably be cheaper for younger people). The DCL policy is the same regardless of age, so it works out cheaper if you're older, more expensive if you're younger. AAA has a very good policy, but as already posted, you have to buy it within 14 days of the first deposit. Whereas DCL just has to be purchased by final payment - which it is if you accepted it when you first booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanneSLO Posted April 17, 2012 #18 Share Posted April 17, 2012 So basically till your final full payment, you cannot get cancellation insurance, so cannot cancel the trip without 50% penalty on the full fare . Third party cancellation insurance needs payment within 15 days of making the first booking deposit. Choose your poison :) There are companies that allow you to purchase cancellation insurance up to final payment and still waive pre-existing conditions. CSA is one of them, but I recall there are others. -- Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 17, 2012 Author #19 Share Posted April 17, 2012 There are companies that allow you to purchase cancellation insurance up to final payment and still waive pre-existing conditions. CSA is one of them, but I recall there are others. -- Suzanne thanks for that - i just went to their website - yes, you can buy right up to final payment! that's fantastic. and they seem to have very good coverage. Have you used them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaska_planner Posted April 17, 2012 Author #20 Share Posted April 17, 2012 i just calculated the price - it comes out a few hundred more expensive than the DCL coverage, and without the pre-existing condition it's double the price. By the way, cancel for any reason can only be bought within two weeks of first payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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