kerrytens Posted May 20, 2012 #151 Share Posted May 20, 2012 It's between that or a land vacation to Mexico. I am having Mexico withdrawal! That's what I suspected...so it's an apple/oranges thing and no comparison can honestly be made. You get what you pay for...and that's fine. If you are paying more, you should get more, right?? Have to admit that I love Mexico too so I get that:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Lover Posted May 20, 2012 #152 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I just priced out 7-day Eastern Caribbean cruises on the Norwegian Epic and Carnival Liberty for November 24, 2012. The total price (including taxes) for one person in a T1 (studio) stateroom on the Norwegian Epic is $1,042.03 The total price (including taxes) for one person in an interior cabin on the Carnival Liberty is $951.47 As well as being less expensive, the Carnival Liberty will stop at 4 ports during the week and the Norwegian Epic will only stop at 3. Tell me again why you're leaving Carnival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrytens Posted May 20, 2012 #153 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I just priced out 7-day Eastern Caribbean cruises on the Norwegian Epic and Carnival Liberty for November 24, 2012. The total price (including taxes) for one person in a T1 (studio) stateroom on the Norwegian Epic is $1,042.03 The total price (including taxes) for one person in an interior cabin on the Carnival Liberty is $951.47 As well as being less expensive, the Carnival Liberty will stop at 4 ports during the week and the Norwegian Epic will only stop at 3. Tell me again why you're leaving Carnival? Nice comparison but again, you aren't really comparing apples to apples here. Epic is 100% about the ship (Heck, I recall quite a few discussions about booking for the ship vs the itinerary on these boards especially since you aren't guaranteed those 4 ports). The entertainment factor alone is worth the tiny amount of extra $$ to me. I may be wrong but I don't believe that Liberty has a special area only for its solo (Epic's studio pax) folks either. Personally, I am glad that there are options for me and if given the choice that you mention above, my pick would be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP1111 Posted May 20, 2012 #154 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I just priced out 7-day Eastern Caribbean cruises on the Norwegian Epic and Carnival Liberty for November 24, 2012. The total price (including taxes) for one person in a T1 (studio) stateroom on the Norwegian Epic is $1,042.03 The total price (including taxes) for one person in an interior cabin on the Carnival Liberty is $951.47 As well as being less expensive, the Carnival Liberty will stop at 4 ports during the week and the Norwegian Epic will only stop at 3. Tell me again why you're leaving Carnival? . Although I'm not the "you" being referred to in your post, I decided to still offer a reply nonetheless . . . The difference you offer is a grand total of $90.56 I've experienced Carnival Liberty three times (all enjoyed), and Norwegian EPIC once (greatly enjoyed). The difference, in my personal opinion as stated earlier, is definitely worth more than that amount. But . . . I definitely do not want to study the Math based on an opinion only. That would not be a smart thing for me to do at all. So I went online and double-checked the figures you presented. CCL must have just today made a change to their booking engine amounts, as the cost (Fun Select) now of a 1A cabin on Carnival Liberty departing on Saturday 11/24/12 is $1,071.47 ($958.00 + $113.47). Cabins 2201, 2202, 2207 & 2208 are still available. That would make the CCL sailing (at least at this particular hour) $29 more expensive. I did not choose the Early Saver option, as that is something exclusive to CCL -- and I did not add any Latitudes OBC, as that's something exclusive to NCL. And for those who might be wanting to make further comparisons for potential bookings, don't just limit yourselves to the NCL studios. Compare insides, oceanviews, and balconies as well. Probably more often than not the CCL price will be less, but definitely not always. I can easily offer additional dates where the comparisons of very similar cruises do not shine CCL in the "better value" (or least expensive) light. I'm very glad that can be the case for my own vacations now, and I hope it continues. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkz Posted May 20, 2012 #155 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Carnival inside cabin vs NCL studio cabin, transatlantic to Barcelona for solo cruiser... Carnival is a bit higher, but offers 15 days and 5 ports, plus Tampa and Barcelona, about $1300 including taxes. NCL offers 11 days and 2 ports, plus Miami and Barcelona, about $1100 including taxes. Percentages mean diddly in this discussion except for those compelled to soak in self pity because they are comparing their rate to people who cruise in pairs or in families. I don't see why a cruise ship would waste the space and potential profits catering to solo cruisers. It's bad enough that they can't get me to buy anything on the ship, except for a soda card! Unfortunately, with an added travel day before and after sailing (I never want to fly on the same day as the cruise departs/arrives) I can't get that many days off work so I'll likely be trying NCL for a Transatlantic in the spring of 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiogymrat Posted May 20, 2012 #156 Share Posted May 20, 2012 . Although I'm not the "you" being referred to in your post, I decided to still offer a reply nonetheless . . . The difference you offer is a grand total of $90.56 I've experienced Carnival Liberty three times (all enjoyed), and Norwegian EPIC once (greatly enjoyed). The difference, in my personal opinion as stated earlier, is definitely worth more than that amount. But . . . I definitely do not want to study the Math based on an opinion only. That would not be a smart thing for me to do at all. So I went online and double-checked the figures you presented. CCL must have just today made a change to their booking engine amounts, as the cost (Fun Select) now of a 1A cabin on Carnival Liberty departing on Saturday 11/24/12 is $1,071.47 ($958.00 + $113.47). Cabins 2201, 2202, 2207 & 2208 are still available. That would make the CCL sailing (at least at this particular hour) $29 more expensive. I did not choose the Early Saver option, as that is something exclusive to CCL -- and I did not add any Latitudes OBC, as that's something exclusive to NCL. And for those who might be wanting to make further comparisons for potential bookings, don't just limit yourselves to the NCL studios. Compare insides, oceanviews, and balconies as well. Probably more often than not the CCL price will be less, but definitely not always. I can easily offer additional dates where the comparisons of very similar cruises do not shine CCL in the "better value" (or least expensive) light. I'm very glad that can be the case for my own vacations now, and I hope it continues. . While early saver is an exclusive option, its open to anyone. Your Latitudes OBC isnt. While ES doesnt work for everyone, its an a savings advantage, which seems to be the reason the OP no longer wanted to cruise solo on Carnival. I have been on Epic twice and Liberty 3x and had a great time on both, but I personally like the Carnival experience. Maybe it was the 2 cruises I took with Epic, but the crowd was much older...Majority of seniors in the lounge. Not that I dont enjoy older people, just like the predominately 30-50 crowd on Carnival. ymmv Options are great, so many cruises...so little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucigo Posted May 20, 2012 #157 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If you are every sailing on the same ship I am, I would be happy to put one of my kids in your cabin (on paper only of course). Insane that you have to pay so much to cruise alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottweiler Puppy Posted May 20, 2012 #158 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I just priced out 7-day Eastern Caribbean cruises on the Norwegian Epic and Carnival Liberty for November 24, 2012. The total price (including taxes) for one person in a T1 (studio) stateroom on the Norwegian Epic is $1,042.03 The total price (including taxes) for one person in an interior cabin on the Carnival Liberty is $951.47 As well as being less expensive, the Carnival Liberty will stop at 4 ports during the week and the Norwegian Epic will only stop at 3. Tell me again why you're leaving Carnival? I dont know about him but for only $90 more I would be motivated to try the Epic. I wouldn't want to stick myself to only one Cruise line. Not everyoines cruises for the ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 20, 2012 #159 Share Posted May 20, 2012 But Royal takes them off if there is only 1 in the cabin On Carnival, if only 1 person, only 1 pays taxes. Not sure where you are getting your info from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted May 20, 2012 #160 Share Posted May 20, 2012 On Carnival, if only 1 person, only 1 pays taxes. Not sure where you are getting your info from. Yes, same as RCL, but RCL charges one port charge ($150- $200 on 7 night cruises) whereas Carnival charges for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 20, 2012 #161 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yes, same as RCL, but RCL charges one port charge ($150- $200 on 7 night cruises) whereas Carnival charges for 2 Baloney. They both charge the same. 1 person, 1 set of taxes. 2 people pay twice what 1 pays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigirlcruzin Posted May 20, 2012 #162 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Baloney. They both charge the same. 1 person, 1 set of taxes. 2 people pay twice what 1 pays. Yes, 1 person, 1 set of taxes no matter the line. But the poster you quoted was referring to the port charges. Carnival DOES double them. I don't know about RCI, but I know I'm only paying one set of port charges for my Celebrity cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 20, 2012 #163 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yes, 1 person, 1 set of taxes no matter the line. But the poster you quoted was referring to the port charges. Carnival DOES double them. I don't know about RCI, but I know I'm only paying one set of port charges for my Celebrity cruise. Like Carnival, RCI doesn't list port charges as a line item. Same with Celebrity. At least when I just tried booking online for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigirlcruzin Posted May 20, 2012 #164 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Like Carnival, RCI doesn't list port charges as a line item. Same with Celebrity. At least when I just tried booking online for them. Right (I don't think any line lists port fees separately any longer; I don't think it's allowed), but internally they know what's what, and Celebrity backed out the port fee portion for my December cruise. RCI often does this as well. Carnival does not. Carnival sometimes has the best rate regardless of how it's figured. Sometimes other lines do. I don't care how they come up with the rate, what the percentage is, etc. I shop around for a fair deal. I do that whether I sail by myself in a cabin or with a friend. And fair deal doesn't necessarily mean cheapest. I've done a studio on the Epic twice. Could've done Carnival cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted May 20, 2012 #165 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Baloney. They both charge the same. 1 person, 1 set of taxes. 2 people pay twice what 1 pays. Baloney back. As you know, when you see the price for a cruise (all cruises) there is a part of that that is the port charge or non commissionable. It's often up to $200 pp of that price on a 7 nighter See for yourself take any Carnival cruise on your favorite TA website and price a cabin for 2. Now price the same cabin for 1. You'll see the only difference for the price is that the total for 1 is less by the amount of tax. Now do the same for a Royal Caribbean cruise You'll see that the price for a single is much more less than the tax amount for 1. The reason being is that you are not being charged the non commissionable (port) part of the fare you see. Same on Celebrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted May 21, 2012 #166 Share Posted May 21, 2012 True, because the perceived extras on Epic/Breakaway may not interest a person that books for ports, rather than ship experience. That's a very valid point...For me if the ports were the main focus, I'd fly there. I just fgot off a 15 day Carnival Hawaii cruise and I loved EVERY sea day. I'd have loved them even more if I were on NCL. To me, a cruise is about the ship which is why when I go to Europe, I will fly there and stay in hotels. Islands are about the cruise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 21, 2012 #167 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Baloney back.As you know, when you see the price for a cruise (all cruises) there is a part of that that is the port charge or non commissionable. It's often up to $200 pp of that price on a 7 nighter See for yourself take any Carnival cruise on your favorite TA website and price a cabin for 2. Now price the same cabin for 1. You'll see the only difference for the price is that the total for 1 is less by the amount of tax. Now do the same for a Royal Caribbean cruise You'll see that the price for a single is much more less than the tax amount for 1. The reason being is that you are not being charged the non commissionable (port) part of the fare you see. Same on Celebrity and double baloney back at ya. Try the same bookings on cruise line sites without the smoke and mirrors played by TAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 21, 2012 #168 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Right (I don't think any line lists port fees separately any longer; I don't think it's allowed), but internally they know what's what, and Celebrity backed out the port fee portion for my December cruise. RCI often does this as well. Carnival does not. Carnival sometimes has the best rate regardless of how it's figured. Sometimes other lines do. I don't care how they come up with the rate, what the percentage is, etc. I shop around for a fair deal. I do that whether I sail by myself in a cabin or with a friend. And fair deal doesn't necessarily mean cheapest. I've done a studio on the Epic twice. Could've done Carnival cheaper. The reason they are built into the cruise fares is because there were too many lawsuits over them. If a cruise line is backing them out and it is identifiable as such, I think they are going to be ripe for the taking in court again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted May 21, 2012 #169 Share Posted May 21, 2012 and double baloney back at ya. Try the same bookings on cruise line sites without the smoke and mirrors played by TAs. As I said you can check RCL's site and Carnivals site or any other. RCL does not charge double non commissionables as does Carnival for single bookings. No smoke and mirrors. You are wrong period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 21, 2012 #170 Share Posted May 21, 2012 As I said you can check RCL's site and Carnivals site or any other. RCL does not charge double non commissionables as does Carnival for single bookings. No smoke and mirrors. You are wrong period. You may be correct. In that case, enjoy Royal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted May 21, 2012 #171 Share Posted May 21, 2012 You may be correct. In that case, enjoy Royal! I am correct and any TA on this thread will back me up. I enjoy all cruises regardless of company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted May 21, 2012 #172 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I am correct and any TA on this thread will back me up.I enjoy all cruises regardless of company I think it might be risky for any TAs to surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted May 21, 2012 #173 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I think it might be risky for any TAs to surface. why? Are they afraid of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro2448 Posted May 21, 2012 #174 Share Posted May 21, 2012 The bottom line is, WHO CARES. if you find a cruise you want to take, with a cruise line you like, with a price your happy with, then go. Who cares if someone paid a dollar less, there will always be someone who paid less and someone who paid more. I for one cruise Exclusively on Carnival, NO it is not because I think Carnival is the best, I don't think there is a BEST cruise line, there might be a best for you cruise line, but peoples opinion differ. Since I take 2 or 3 cruises a year, I wanted to build my status for the few extra perks you get. If that doesn't matter to you then switching cruise lines won't matter, as long as your happy. If someone has a reason to leave Carnival, weather we agree with it or not, see ya later and have fun on your next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxedout2 Posted May 21, 2012 #175 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I've Just Returned, From The 5-05-12 Sailing On Carnivial Freedom!!! I Had A Great Time, But I Will NOT Be Sailing Carnivial In The Near Future!!! I Sail Solo, And Carnivial Got Rid Of The Solo Supplement, And No Matter How Much Fun I Have... I Can't See Myself Paying A 200% Supplement To Sail Carnivial:eek:!!! So Royal Caribbean, Princess, Norwegian, Look Out.. Here I Come!!!:p We (DH/DW) sail Carnival at least once a year to get to some different ports (for us). We book way ahead, ES, and follow price changes. However solo, I will not even look at Carnival now. IMHO, my best deals were off season, meaning school in session. So far my best solo prices have been RCI with NCL's next...out of Miami/Ft.Lauderdale in January/Feb/March...not Spring Break times...prices spike....the bean counters know the school schedule! I am now tracking Sept/Nov/Early Dec 2012 prices, excluding the actual Holiday Sailing, of course. Will probably pull the trigger on a mid-Sept (Majesty) out of Miami, a cheap Nov (Liberty) out of FLL/PE...one or two in Jan 2013. Further, I do not book these solos ahead of time...I wait until one week before sailing and they sometimes drop the single supplement. I do not fly so my method may not work for you....because last minute flights are usually the most expensive. Bottom line: We are almost Diamond thanks to Royal's ability to drop the supplement on off season, last minute bookings. Note to Carnival: Sorry Mickey, I'd like to do the Panama trip on Freedom and we will, later on, when DW schedule allows us to sail together. Note to Royal Caribbean: See y'all real soon. Regards. Maxx, out. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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