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LMAO...we have been dead in the water for awhile... but its a different topic...and i cant handle another balcony question...so smoking topic is a breath of fresh air:D

 

we just need filler until next sunday when Breakaway heads to bermuda. because if they have to tender is going to be some interesting conversations and discussions.

 

Someone needs to start Everyting Getaway so we can do this all over again. :D

 

I wonder who will start the Getaway one:confused:

 

But we will know by Wednesday if they dock or tender.

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smoking...well...this convo has gotten heated , i need to pull out the popcorn..:D

 

but seriously ...i won’t talk about the smokers as I would by hypocritical if I did...seeing that i am going to be killing my liver (alcohol UBP)...taking myself one step closer to diabetes (cannoli’s, gelato's, lobster tails, soft serve ice cream), and a hot dog or 2, 3 or 4, 7 days of at least 3 highly salted, highly caloric meals per day from high blood pressure.

the way i look at it is I’m doing more damage to myself on this cruise than that second hand smoke smell could ever affect me... so who the hell am i to point finger at the smoker about their second hand smoke affecting me... when my own temple is unclean (self-destruct)...I’m just saying...thankfully its only one week!:D ...side note...my daily work out at the gym will cancel all that other stuff out.;)

 

So to the smoker...DO YOU! If i don’t like the smell or gets to overwhelming..i will just move out of the way...that ship is big enough for us to share.

 

 

Hmmmm, you forgot about the high cholesterol we'll be getting from eating all that shellfish, beef and eggs!

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My fiance has debilitating asthma and has TWICE in the past two months ended up at the hospital because of inconsiderate smokers exercising their "rights" to smoke, regardless of who they're affecting. So please do continue to enjoy your God given right to damage the health of my fiancé and others around you when you smoke upwind of them, because as we know in this world, your rights to blow carcinogens is far more important than the comfort and health of those around you. We won't say anything to you about it if we are on the same sailing, because we'll be interrupting our sacred vacation time to run for inhalers and prednisone, in the hopes that we'll be able to avoid a shipboard hospital stay. And we won't be saying anything to you later that day either, because the debilitating headaches that follow smoke-induced asthma attacks will have us canceling our evening dinner and entertainment plans so that my fiancé can lay in bed, trying to get the head to stop pounding, as happened 3 out of the 7 nights on a recent cruise when we had a lovely smoking couple next door to us who enjoyed their rights to smoke on their balcony.

 

SailorManBilly,

 

I am sorry to hear of your loved ones medical dilemma. Fortunately we live in a world and country where you have so many choices and cruise lines to choose from. I would agree with some of the other posters that perhaps X is better suited to meet your wishes and needs. I have some medical issues along with multiple family members (including asthma and allergies). I choose to adapt my plans accordingly. It is not the fault of others that we have issues, and we should not expect others to adapt to ours when there are so many perfectly reasonable and good options out there.

From the other side of the coin, X has some beautiful ships. I am sure there are many smokers and their significant others who would love to try the line, but can't because of their smoking policy.

I am certain only of one thing - a resolution to the smoking debate is as likely as peace in the Middle East.

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My fiance has debilitating asthma and has TWICE in the past two months ended up at the hospital because of inconsiderate smokers exercising their "rights" to smoke, regardless of who they're affecting. So please do continue to enjoy your God given right to damage the health of my fiancé and others around you when you smoke upwind of them, because as we know in this world, your rights to blow carcinogens is far more important than the comfort and health of those around you. We won't say anything to you about it if we are on the same sailing, because we'll be interrupting our sacred vacation time to run for inhalers and prednisone, in the hopes that we'll be able to avoid a shipboard hospital stay. And we won't be saying anything to you later that day either, because the debilitating headaches that follow smoke-induced asthma attacks will have us canceling our evening dinner and entertainment plans so that my fiancé can lay in bed, trying to get the head to stop pounding, as happened 3 out of the 7 nights on a recent cruise when we had a lovely smoking couple next door to us who enjoyed their rights to smoke on their balcony.

 

I am very sorry she suffers so badly but I think it's your responsibility to look after her health and not other passengers. It's crazy to me that you continue to risk her health by sailing on ncl.

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Topic change....Is this 2-nighter the one that The Katie Couric Show is taking their entire studio audience on? I seem to remember hearing that she surprised her audience with a free 2-nighter on the Breakaway a few months back.

 

yup! I think it's a mix of travel agents and the cruises that were given away to Sandy victims. I think I heard it was 150 staterooms for the Katie audience.

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Ok...back to balconies. This is a pic of my balcony on the NCL Star. It looks about the same as the Breakaway. What does everyone think? Maybe a bit bigger but not much or the same?

 

It is a little bigger, considering that the chairs can be set facing the ocean and not each other.

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Hmmmm, you forgot about the high cholesterol we'll be getting from eating all that shellfish, beef and eggs!

 

dang,I knew i forgot something!! thanks for that...cause im going to moderno's again...that's a dayum heart attack waiting to happen!!:rolleyes:

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It is a little bigger, considering that the chairs can be set facing the ocean and not each other.

 

Yes but still not much leg room. It appears to be a bit longer. I definite remember putting my legs up on the railings...lol

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Actually that is exactly what it means & good luck with complaining to the smoker, just be glad I am not on your sailing cause if you complain to me I will give it to you with both barrels and then I would report you for harassment. You DON'T make the rules, NCL does (& yes we all know YOU break them when its convenient for you so go tell it to someone else)

 

Oh good grief :rolleyes:

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Im confused:confused:....soooooooooooo why risk her health and well being, and your vacation dollars while being sick and miserable, when you have the OPTION to go on a NON SMOKING cruise line like celebrity?? Knowingly you chose her fate by going on a smoking optional cruise line. soooooo how is that the smokers responsiblity to be mindful of YOUR fiancé medical conditon...:confused:

 

just curious.

 

What we do and where we go and how we handle the details are our business, and we'll manage that accordingly, thank you. I was simply pointing out, after reading people comments about the smoking issue being one of having to suffer the rancid smell, that people/smokers need to be conscious that their lighting up isn't just an inconvenience to some people - it's often a serious health concern. What we do to our own bodies that doesn't affect others (i.e., what we eat/drink) - or even the rudeness of blasting our music on a balcony, etc, is not adversely affecting the health and well being of others around you. I know many smokers who are now opting for the water vapour cigarettes that don't emit smoke for places where their second hand smoke might adversely affect other human beings. I, myself, would be mortified and suffer from guilt if I knew that a voluntary health-averse habit of mine were affecting the health and well being of other human beings around me. I know, if i were a smoker, that I'd be HYPER conscious of not letting my habit ruin the time of people around me. I'd be hyper vigilant about being sure there were no children or elderly anywhere downwind of me; I'd avoid smoking on my balcony, kowing that it WILL be blowing into the rooms of the people who are downwind of me; and I would think nothing of moving to the back of a ship to have my cigarette so tht i wouldn't be disturbing the precious and much anticipated vacation time of my fellow human beings. But then again, that's me. I'm very clear the majority of the population simply doesn't care what they do or how it affects others. As was witnessed just the other day walking down 9th Avenue in NYC as I watched a mother walking with her cigarette dangling from her hand and allowing it to blow into the face of her child who was walking next to her. people really don't care anymore: it's my life is the mantra of most these days. And if smoking were a necessary thing that was detrimental NOT to do, then I'd be screaming from the rafters: "we need to protect the rights of these people". But it's not. It's voluntary and is not, will not, and CANNOT be contained in a public space. I'm constantly shocked that people defend it.

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What we do and where we go and how we handle the details are our business, and we'll manage that accordingly, thank you. I was simply pointing out, after reading people comments about the smoking issue being one of having to suffer the rancid smell, that people/smokers need to be conscious that their lighting up isn't just an inconvenience to some people - it's often a serious health concern. What we do to our own bodies that doesn't affect others (i.e., what we eat/drink) - or even the rudeness of blasting our music on a balcony, etc, is not adversely affecting the health and well being of others around you. I know many smokers who are now opting for the water vapour cigarettes that don't emit smoke for places where their second hand smoke might adversely affect other human beings. I, myself, would be mortified and suffer from guilt if I knew that a voluntary health-averse habit of mine were affecting the health and well being of other human beings around me. I know, if i were a smoker, tht id be HYPER conscious of not letting my habit ruin the time of people around me. I'd be hypere vigilant about being sure there were no children or elderly anywhere down wind of me; id avoid smoking on my balcony, kowing that it WILL be blowing into the rooms of the people who are downwind of me; and I would think nothing of moving to the back of a ship to have my cigarette so tht i wouldn't be disturbing the precious and much anticipated vacation time of my fellow human beings. But then again, that's me. I'm very clear the majority of the population simply doesn't care what they do or how it affects others. As was witnessed just the other day walking down 9th Avenue in NYC as I watched a mother walking with her cigarette dangling from her hand and allowing it to blow into the face of her child who was walking next to her. people really don't care anymore: it's my life is the mantra of most these days. And if smoking were a necessary thing that was detrimental NOT to do, then I'd be screaming from the rafters: "we need to protect the rights of these people". But it's not. It's voluntary and is not, will not, and CANNOT be contained in a public space. I'm constantly shocked that people defend it.

 

I agree with you 100%. I think it's absurd that people are actually suggesting to you to not cruise NCL anymore. It's just common courtesy and respect. When I did smoke (I quit when I became pregnant in 1996) I never, ever, ever would smoke when someone was eating. Back then, you could smoke in restaurants. Heck, you could smoke while you were eating if you wanted to. I never understand why people think it's their "right" to be rude and disrepectful. I am so sorry you had the responses you had. It's a sad reminder that human beings aren't so human anymore. :(

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Ok, I have an honest question - doesn't smoking ruin your sense of taste? If so, why would a smoker even want to light up before or during their meal?

 

I used to wonder that same thing. Then someone (a non-smoker) said "Maybe some people just don't care as much about how their food tastes." I know in London, which is where I see it most, people are sitting at, say, an outdoor table and smoking as they're drinking a beer, waiting for their food. Seems likely they enjoy smoking with their drink more than they enjoy tasting the food.

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Question I haven't seen addressed , although I could have easily missed it.

In the deck plan diagrams, the cabins alternate with either the "+" or triangle symbol, which according to the legend, is supposed to signify sleeps 3 or 4. However, when you hold your cursor over the cabin for a description, I just noticed they all say 4. I had been assuming the ones that said 4 had the pullman type bed in addition to the sofa. But now I don't know if they all have the pullman. And if they do, has anyone seen a picture of it pulled down?? Is it over the sofa??

 

Thanks :)

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They have updated the square footage of the S6 aft penthouse. It used to say 548 sgf( which I believe is the interior size). Now its says 655-824 sqf. This obviously includes the balcony. It shows the huge size difference between decks!

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What we do and where we go and how we handle the details are our business, and we'll manage that accordingly, thank you. I was simply pointing out, after reading people comments about the smoking issue being one of having to suffer the rancid smell, that people/smokers need to be conscious that their lighting up isn't just an inconvenience to some people - it's often a serious health concern. What we do to our own bodies that doesn't affect others (i.e., what we eat/drink) - or even the rudeness of blasting our music on a balcony, etc, is not adversely affecting the health and well being of others around you. I know many smokers who are now opting for the water vapour cigarettes that don't emit smoke for places where their second hand smoke might adversely affect other human beings. I, myself, would be mortified and suffer from guilt if I knew that a voluntary health-averse habit of mine were affecting the health and well being of other human beings around me. I know, if i were a smoker, that I'd be HYPER conscious of not letting my habit ruin the time of people around me. I'd be hyper vigilant about being sure there were no children or elderly anywhere downwind of me; I'd avoid smoking on my balcony, kowing that it WILL be blowing into the rooms of the people who are downwind of me; and I would think nothing of moving to the back of a ship to have my cigarette so tht i wouldn't be disturbing the precious and much anticipated vacation time of my fellow human beings. But then again, that's me. I'm very clear the majority of the population simply doesn't care what they do or how it affects others. As was witnessed just the other day walking down 9th Avenue in NYC as I watched a mother walking with her cigarette dangling from her hand and allowing it to blow into the face of her child who was walking next to her. people really don't care anymore: it's my life is the mantra of most these days. And if smoking were a necessary thing that was detrimental NOT to do, then I'd be screaming from the rafters: "we need to protect the rights of these people". But it's not. It's voluntary and is not, will not, and CANNOT be contained in a public space. I'm constantly shocked that people defend it.

 

SailorMan

 

I live with a smoker, and detest the whole smoking issue. Hate the smell, what it does to my breathing... That being said, my vacation choices are becoming increasingly restricted by the no smoking policies in place. I must say that no smoking inside staterooms is a wonderful policy as long as one can smoke on the balcony. Same for hotels. Were it not for the option to smoke somewhere, I would never be able to travel.

 

MSC has a very restrictive Clean Air Policy and strives for a 90% smoke free ship. Oceana, which has some absolutely gorgeous new ships allows smoking only in two outdoor areas, non inside. Azamara has one outdoor smoking area, none indoors, and additionally has a no smoking policy on the land portion of their cruise tours. Regent, Celebrity, and Princess, while not going as far as the above lines, have no smoking in staterooms or balconies. Silversea put a more restrictive policy in place for 2013 and Crystal will institute a new policy beginning in 2014, which includes no smoking in the casino.

 

As I indicated in my previous post, I don't believe there will ever be a peaceful resolution to the smoking issue.

 

I wish you good and safe travels.

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God knows how many pages back, there was a photo of a bed coming out of the wall. It was over the bed in the room, but just barely; it seemed to me to be not even a foot above the bed. Maybe it was a hoax.

 

I know .... that was a ridiculously tiny space!! I feel for families who have no choice but to take a cabin like that!!

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