A non-confrontational smoking v. non-smoking question.

[stargate fan]

Let's be nice here...

 

Why don't cruise ships have non-smoking and smoking cabins like hotels have non-smoking and smoking rooms? Maybe one side of the ship could be the smoking rooms and the other side of the ship could be the non-smoking rooms.

 

Just a thought.

[bigreid07]

probably because that would make too much sense! haha! Plus, it would have to be programmed into all the T.A.'s and online agencies' computer systems and everything, and would cost the T.A.s and RCCL money to switch that over.

[worldsbestcandles]

Because Fabreeze silently owns RCCL and the reduction in sales just by the cabin stewards alone would cause their sales to plummit ;)

[HB Cruiser]

I am a non-smoker and have been on seven cruises. I have yet to smell as much as a hint of smoke or the staleness that goes along with it in a cabin. NEVER.

 

Tim

[worldsbestcandles]

HB - I was kidding....

 

Stargate - I haven't been on a cruise in a long time (since when I danced on one), but seems to most of the comments on here have more to do with bars/lounges/casinos, etc. as far as public spaces where smokes doesn't stay on it's side of the room, rather than the cabins themselves. Although some have commented on balconies, but as that is a luxury that I cannot at this time afford... I won't have to worry about it.... not that your question isn't valid, but in regards to the other posts, I think it's more with the public areas...

[ilionite65]

The logistics of smoking and non-smoking cabims doesn't make financial sense! How many of each type of cabin would they need? Should half of the suites be non and half smoking? What if on a particular cruise I want a non suite and there are none available but smoking suites are all available? I would have to take the smoking or a different type of cabin. If everyone chose to take the ather type of cabin Royal has half the suites not booked because they are smoking. Who is to say how many of each kind of cabin would be needed? More interestingly, who would enforce the non-smoking in the cabins? The cabin steward? I think not, not and risk his/her tips! Just wouldn't work!

[stretch]

A "non-confrontational" smoking vs. non-smoking thread?????

 

That's an original idea, but alas, I don't think it's going to last. :D

Stretch

[BS_Outwest]

The logistics of smoking and non-smoking cabims doesn't make financial sense! How many of each type of cabin would they need? Should half of the suites be non and half smoking? What if on a particular cruise I want a non suite and there are none available but smoking suites are all available? I would have to take the smoking or a different type of cabin. If everyone chose to take the ather type of cabin Royal has half the suites not booked because they are smoking. Who is to say how many of each kind of cabin would be needed? More interestingly, who would enforce the non-smoking in the cabins? The cabin steward? I think not, not and risk his/her tips! Just wouldn't work!

 

Maybe the cruise lines would provide discounts to us smokers to fill up the ships?:D Seems reasonable to me.......

[ilionite65]

Dream on BS!

[nosnobunny]

I don't want to play in a non-confrontational smoking vs non-smoking thread. It was so much fun in the other one. :D :p ;)

 

Beth

[HB Cruiser]

Sorry candles, did not aim that at you, I think we were posting about the same time, (personally thought your post was funny!) really did not aim at anyone. Just wanted to get the point across that never have I smelled any smoke in a cabin. Don't think the smoking, not smoking, on a ship is an issue as long as we keep the radicals out of it. LOL

 

Tim

[42trvl]

I also will say that we've never smelled "stale" smoke in our cabins on a few different sailings - and there are a couple of family members very sensitive to smoke. So, whatever they do, the air cleaning systems on the ships must be quite good. I also feel that the bigger problems with smoking arise in the public areas, and that's where it would be nice if there were some separate areas/bars/lounges, etc. and at the very least, some better enforcement and regard for the "rules."

[Cruising89143]

At one time NCL offered non smoking cabins. That was back in the early 90's when I cruised on the Norway.

[yogimax]

Latest statistics show that 23% of the population are smokers, so, theoretically, the best breakdown would be 3/4 non-smoking, 1/4 smoking. I also assume there are a good number of people who would say, "it doesn't matter." It would be interesting to see the results if one cruise line tried it

[BS_Outwest]

Didn't Carnival off a non-smoking itinery at one time and had to cancel due to lack of support or something? Anyone remember this?

[Cruising89143]

Didn't Carnival off a non-smoking itinery at one time and had to cancel due to lack of support or something? Anyone remember this?

 

They built a non smoking ship called the Paradise but did away with the non smoking part a couple of years ago. She moved to the west coast and started doing three and four night cruises. She was hard to book groups due to the non smoking status.

[MrsPete]

I am a non-smoker and have been on seven cruises. I have yet to smell as much as a hint of smoke or the staleness that goes along with it in a cabin. NEVER.

 

Tim

 

I've never had a problem in my own cabin either; I think they're well cleaned between cruises.

[stillfrantic]

ALL cabins on Disney are non smoking. :)

[justaknucklehead]

Give this stupid topic a rest for God's sake. I live where i can see the smoke from a nuclear power plant, you think I'm gonna worry about a stupid cigarette?

[mbisson]

I live where i can see the smoke from a nuclear power plant, you think I'm gonna worry about a stupid cigarette?

 

LOL-hope nuke plants don't smoke, that should be steam (unless it's on fire)

 

-Monte

[hstrybuf]

Having part of the cabins smoking and the rest non-smoking would be a logistical nightmare. Imagine that every week there would be a different set of passengers wanting to book cabins that were either smoking or non-smoking the week before. What if there were more smokers one week than the next? It might work for hotels, but it won't work for cruiseships.

[threeofus]

I don't think anyone should smoke in a cabin....remember the finger pointing travel iron thread..let's take a pole to see how long before all #!+!! breaks loose..:p :D :D :p

[mcgore83]

Do you think it would be appropriate for smokers to politely knock on the doors of their neighbors and ask if they would be offended if you smoked on the balcony? Just seems like it would be better if someone smoked outside as much as possible as opposed to smoking inside the cabin. Just wondering...

[1corona4u]

Latest statistics show that 23% of the population are smokers, so, theoretically, the best breakdown would be 3/4 non-smoking, 1/4 smoking. I also assume there are a good number of people who would say, "it doesn't matter." It would be interesting to see the results if one cruise line tried it

 

So, using your number,(23%) which I actually think is slightly higher for smokers, here are the facts;

US Population: 295,734,134 (as of July, 2005 est.)According to http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2119.html

 

 

0-14 years: 20.6% (male 31,095,725/female 29,703,997)

15-64 years: 67% (male 98,914,382/female 99,324,126)

65 years and over: 12.4% (male 15,298,676/female 21,397,228) (2005 est.)

 

 

white 77.1%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1.5%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.3%, other 4% (2000)

note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)

 

 

That means that aprox. 68 million people smoke. That's a lot of people..........here is the rest of the breakdown, if there is a mathematician out there....

 

Cigarette Smoking Statistics (from the AHA)

 

In the United States, an estimated 26.3 million men (25.2 percent) and 21.2 million women (20.7 percent) are smokers. These people are at higher risk of heart attack and stroke. The latest estimates for persons age 18 and older show...*

 

Among whites, 25.2 percent of men and 20.7 percent of women smoke (2002).

Among black or African Americans, 27.0 percent of men and 18.5 percent of women smoke (2002).

Among Hispanics/Latinos, 23.2 percent of men and 12.5 percent of women smoke (1999-2001).

Among Asians (only), 21.3 percent of men and 6.9 percent of women smoke (1999-2001).

Among American Indians/Alaska Natives (only), 32.0 percent of men and 36.9 percent of women smoke (1999-2001).

 

 

My thoughts;

 

Let's imagine in terms of a cruise, you are on a ship with 3000 people, 50% women, 50% men, and maybe 25.2% of men smoke, and 20.7% of the women smoke.(using the figures quoted above) Extrapolating that out, means that there may be 1400 people onboard who smoke. I'm sure this does not always happen, but I'd bet those numbers happen more than not.

 

Smokers might be in the minority, but at 47.5%, I'd say it would be a big loss for a cruiseline to go all non-smoking. Of course there are other things that could affect this example, but you get the idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[98Charlie]

Why don't cruise ships have non-smoking and smoking cabins like hotels

I think that the big problem in the comparison is that hotels are much less often booked at 100% whereas cruises more frequently reach near 100%.

 

Even when hotels do have non-smoking rooms, it is poorly enforced. DW smokes, I don't. We normally ask for a smoking room. When we are given a room that is non-smoking, we ask to be moved. The standard reply is, "housekeeping will bring you ashtrays immediately". So much for the non-smoking room.

 

Latest statistics show that 23% of the population are smokers, so, theoretically, the best breakdown would be 3/4 non-smoking, 1/4 smoking.

Except for the ones like us, 1 smokes the other doesn't. The mix must be more like one-third/two-third or ½ & ½.

 

Charlie