Cruizinman Posted June 15, 2013 #351 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='nealstuber']And the issues of playboy from my youth... ah Miss March 1987..;)[/quote] Who's that on your back in your avatar :eek::o:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted June 15, 2013 #352 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='freagan']According to JH, "Comedy" is being dropped from Brunch, Lido entertainment is being reviewed and new MDR menus are coming. Not bad for UBs first week.[/quote] And this was done by schmoozing TA's????:confused::p Good for ol' BD!! I love that man :) Let's see what else he'll fix!!!! It would be nice to cruise CCL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted June 15, 2013 #353 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='richstowe'] [COLOR=black]I must have misread many of your comments. I though you were disgusted and angry with Carnival.[/COLOR] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=royalblue]Angry?? Seriously?? Disgusted???[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#4169e1]Just plain old disappointed in some of the changes as well as turned off by their social media....so yeah you misread. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black]My point was CCers stating that they will no longer cruise Carnival because of this. Small potato's.[/COLOR] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=royalblue]Not if that is a big part of what makes one's cruise enjoyable.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][COLOR=royalblue] [/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=red][COLOR=black]Perhaps because different people care about different things.[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=royalblue]See above[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] :rolleyes: [COLOR="Black"] Getting back to thread topic, I feel anyone with "one of the worlds finest private wine collections", [SIZE=2]is not a messiah who can fix issues with a mass market cruise line[/SIZE].[/SIZE[/COLOR]] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=royalblue]He fixed it the first time. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/quote] CCL was better whe he ran it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 15, 2013 #354 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Much better. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.Oceanlover Posted June 15, 2013 #355 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='halos']And this was done by schmoozing TA's????:confused::p Good for ol' BD!! I love that man :) Let's see what else he'll fix!!!! [COLOR="Red"]It would be nice to cruise CCL again.[/COLOR][/QUOTE] I agree with you. Although I am called a hater that is not true. Just hated the direction they went and didn't want to waste a week on an inferior product. I would cruise them again for sure if they undid some of the things they did to cheapen the experience. I am a realist and know it's never going to be the CCL of old but some semblance of that would be fine with me. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertheradar Posted June 15, 2013 #356 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='Sargent_Schultz']Carnival certainly doesn't have to beg shipyards to guarantee financing. RCL does.[/quote] Got any evidence to back up this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted June 15, 2013 #357 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='undertheradar']Got any evidence to back up this statement?[/quote] The following might be a start for you to research and find the answer you are seeking. As Royal Caribbean [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruiselog/2013/04/16/royal-caribbean-quantum-ship-ride/2086329/"]announced in April[/URL], the 4,180-passenger ships will have a number of innovative new features including [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruiselog/2013/04/16/royal-caribbean-quantum-ship-ride/2086329/"]giant mechanical arms[/URL] that transports passengers high above the vessels in glass capsules. The new order is subject to financing, the line says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 15, 2013 #358 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='undertheradar']Got any evidence to back up this statement?[/quote] I'm sure if you ask on the RCL boards they would be happy to provide you with some, but yes, there is plenty. Royal finally found a shipyard in France (:eek:) that will assist with financing, so desparate are they for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted June 15, 2013 #359 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Perhaps Carnival's lack of new ships indicates their inability to secure financing. via Tapatalk 4 Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizinman Posted June 15, 2013 #360 Share Posted June 15, 2013 [quote name='EZ4']Perhaps Carnival's lack of new ships indicates their inability to secure financing. via Tapatalk 4 Beta.[/quote] I think their worried about keeping the ones that they have in[B][U] [COLOR=darkgreen]sea worthy condition.[/COLOR][/U][/B] [B][/B] [B][U][COLOR=darkgreen]Don't forget about the [COLOR=black]promised [/COLOR]300 million make over.[/COLOR][/U][/B] [B][/B] Enhancements for reliability and guest comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted June 15, 2013 #361 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Carnival could always buy Royal and use their financing. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted June 15, 2013 #362 Share Posted June 15, 2013 No. They can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted June 15, 2013 #363 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Got any evidence to back up this statement? Just google royal plans third oasis. Many news articles on how they are trying to get loans and perks from shipbuilders countries to build it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted June 15, 2013 #364 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Carnival could always buy Royal and use their financing. :p They've bought multiple other lines. All cruise lines are foreign flagged so no monopoly rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted June 15, 2013 #365 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Just google royal plans third oasis. Many news articles on how they are trying to get loans and perks from shipbuilders countries to build it You are making it too difficult !!!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted June 15, 2013 #366 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Carnival could always buy Royal and use their financing. :p Sarge ---- If you can get JH's job as some have suggested, maybe you can finance it for them !!!!:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted June 15, 2013 #367 Share Posted June 15, 2013 They've bought multiple other lines. All cruise lines are foreign flagged so no monopoly rules apply. LOL!! I had to screenshot your post, so I could share it. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted June 15, 2013 #368 Share Posted June 15, 2013 LOL!! I had to screenshot your post, so I could share it. :p What are you trying to say ? The "one liners" are getting ridiculous and don't contribute anything to the subject. Or are you just here to try to antagonize everybody ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freagan Posted June 15, 2013 #369 Share Posted June 15, 2013 They've bought multiple other lines. All cruise lines are foreign flagged so no monopoly rules apply. Companies aren't foreign flagged, their ships are. And the U.S. isn't the only country with anti-monopoly laws, most do. In fact the Carnival purchase of Princess barely passed the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted June 15, 2013 #370 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Companies aren't foreign flagged, their ships are. And the U.S. isn't the only country with anti-monopoly laws, most do. In fact the Carnival purchase of Princess barely passed the EU. Sorry ill try to be more accurate with my sarcastic facts from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted June 15, 2013 #371 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I agree with you. Although I am called a hater that is not true. Bill I SO get what you are saying. I don't hate CCL at all. I hate that I feel what I loved was compromised in a noticeable way by poor management/direction. Let's face it, if we didn't like/love CCL, the changes wouldn't have upset us...we wouldn't have cared one way or ther other. I like variety and would love to love CCL again. Fingers crossed. You never know what will happen. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted June 15, 2013 #372 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Sorry ill try to be more accurate with my sarcastic facts from now on You are not wrong. If any cruise line gets into enough financial trouble, they will either be bought or will fold up and their assets will be auctioned. Since NCL and RCCL are building ships in competition with each other, it is possible Carnival can wait and pick up the leftovers. Example ======= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertheradar Posted June 15, 2013 #373 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I'm sure if you ask on the RCL boards they would be happy to provide you with some, but yes, there is plenty. Royal finally found a shipyard in France (:eek:) that will assist with financing, so desparate are they for work. So, that would be no then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertheradar Posted June 15, 2013 #374 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Just google royal plans third oasis. Many news articles on how they are trying to get loans and perks from shipbuilders countries to build it Not my job. I'm not the one making the original statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freagan Posted June 15, 2013 #375 Share Posted June 15, 2013 You are not wrong. If any cruise line gets into enough financial trouble, they will either be bought or will fold up and their assets will be auctioned. Since NCL and RCCL are building ships in competition with each other, it is possible Carnival can wait and pick up the leftovers. Example =======http://www.*************.com/newsletter_archive.cfm?archive=r_ship_history Well, never say never, but the DOJ has already told Carnival no more after Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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