Any cruise lines non smoking

[losuds63]

Just thought i check out some other ways to cruise without or limited smoking any names thanks

[Flip2cruise]

Just thought i check out some other ways to cruise without or limited smoking any names thanks

 

None

[big_duck]

For limited smoking:

 

Best bet - Disney

 

Worst bet - Costa

 

As I understand it.

[I Luv Crusin]

Unfortunately not, however I get the impression that the more expensive the cruiseline the less smoking there is.

 

Carnival's Paradise WAS non-smoking but didn't make enough money for Carnival. Non-smokers tend not to drink and gamble as much and they go to bed earlier.

 

I never sailed the Paradise because of 1) her port, 2) her itinerary. I wanted to sail her but never got the chance.

[Wennfred]

I sailed the Paradise when it was Non-smoking, their Non smoking rules were very stricked and enforced with a 250.00 fine and removal from the ship on the next port, you paid your way back home. The ship was full and it was great not having to smell like smoke or put up with smoke anywhere you went. :) Upon boarding the ship you had to turn in your smokes to Security and they would lock them up for you, then you can request them on the way off the ship.

[I Luv Crusin]

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/tobacco/demographics_tobacco.htmI

 

I always wondered........

[losuds63]

Any cruises with the casino non smoking? I herd someone mention this

[Wennfred]

Any cruises with the casino non smoking? I herd someone mention this

 

No like all casinos except in Vegas where the new hotels have awesome ventilation, there is always smoke there onboard the ships casino.

[LHP]

you can try to find a cruise that is likely to have less smokers. It is still a crap shoot, however. Look at longer cruises with an older, more affluent, clientele. Also, ports out of California (as opposed to a southern port) may bring a less smoky group of passengers.

 

As with our American society, it will take time for cruise ships to start listening to the 75% that don't smoke. Believe me, if the 75% cancelled their cruises until the interior was smokefree....changes would be made quickly.

 

The multiple marketing errors made in the case of the Paradise should not be seen as the cruising public not being concerned about smoking issues.

 

1) Based in Miami. We only cruised her one time, because we drive to our ports...we usually don't fly. If the Paradise had been more centrally located, the booking rate would have gone up.

 

2) Totally non-smoking was going overboard. Many family members have one person that smokes. If 25% of the population smokes, then 1 in 4 family members will. By totally stopping all smoking, you just eliminated the other 3 members as well. If they wanted to build a custom ship, it should have had glass enclosed smoking rooms located at the middle and at each end of the ship on each floor (even the cabin floors) with a monster ventilation system.

They could have called them hospitality rooms. Carnival could have still banned smoking in the cabins and on all balconies. Yes, going to a smoking room would be an inconvenience...but those with the addiction are the ones that should be inconvenienced. As for the Casino, since most players do smoke....then the casino should also be glass enclosed with a monster air vent system and a smaller non-smoking area (a few slots - a couple of blackjack tables - etc) like land casinos do.

 

3. Like other American corporations (who don't make as much money as they could - if they did not have to follow environmental rules to protect their employess and guests) if Carnival wants to use American ports ... then they should be responsible tenants. The Paradise never lost money. It simply was not hitting the MARS of the other ships. Carnival (and other cruise lines) should accept a lower bottom line where the health and wellbeing of their passengers and employees are concerned. That is being called being a responsible corporation. True, American corps would not do it if they were not forced. So maybe it is time we got some legislation passed that protects those who cruise from our American ports.

 

But just like in our American society, for generations nothing changed until the 75% of nonsmokers finally said enough. Nothing here will change until the 75% of cruisers put their money where their mouth is.

 

Sadly until then you have to pay more to find a better clientele to protect your health.

[L2J]

but those with the addiction are the ones that should be inconvenienced.

 

WE HAVE BEEN.....FOR YEARS:rolleyes:

[phinfan63]

WE HAVE BEEN.....FOR YEARS:rolleyes:

 

Ditto Liv.

 

I just didn't notice that much smoke on my cruise last year. Considering most activities are outside - it doesn't get smoky. Dining rooms and show lounges are non-smoking - so no problem there. I can see the casino getting smoky except it didn't have enough people in it on our cruise to get it that way.

 

LHP - lighten up :-) I'll see you tonight at karaoke and we know how smoky it can get there :eek:

[tef43]

Any cruises with the casino non smoking? I herd someone mention this

Not a chance.

 

But FWIW, the absolute worst place on the ship for smoke is the piano bar.

[big_duck]

1) Based in Miami. We only cruised her one time, because we drive to our ports...we usually don't fly. If the Paradise had been more centrally located, the booking rate would have gone up.

 

Let me get this straight. Because YOU drive to your cruises Carnival made a marketing mistake?

 

You want statistics how about less then 10 percent of cruisers live within driving distance of ports.

 

You sound like an opera singer warming up. me, me, me, me.

[jerick]

... FWIW, the absolute worst place on the ship for smoke is the piano bar.

 

We just got off the Valor, and I was pleasantly surprised at how little smoke I noticed. Our first cruise was on the Paradise when it was smoke-free, and I was a little concerned about stories I'd heard about how much smoke there is in most ships. As someone has already mentioned, the dining rooms and many lounges are smoke-free. We even spent a couple evenings in the piano bar and it really wasn't that bad.

 

Jeff

[LHP]

that 10% may have been true 10 years ago but with the additional ports now offered, that will not be the case. I would love to see your documented proof for that percentage for today's American cruisers. Since I was specifically talking about Carnival, we are dealing with American cruisers from US ports for the majority.

 

It doesn't take a marketing genuis to see that if you put a custom ship at the farthest point in the America without a change in venue for the entire life of the ship....bookings are going to suffer.

 

Simply rotating the ship between the now multiple ports in Central and North Florda (and Alabama) would have done wonders for the Paradise.

 

But again, you are completely ignoring the fact that I said "multiple" marketing errors. I did not say just one. Surely someone who is an expert on cruising percentages can understand the English word "multiple". As I clearly stated ( to anyone who can read English) the 2nd reason was because Carnival went to far in making it a totally non smoking ship.

 

As for singing, I am a very good singer (ask Phinfan). And yes, I do have the right to say "me me me" when it is your filthy drug addiction that causes me bron. ulcerations for a month. Before Carnival changed their smoking restrictions, (after 10 cruises with them since 1998) I thought I was going to have to give up cruising with Carnival. A week of cruising simply wasn't worth the after math of antibiotics, throat and bron. ulcers for a solid month afterward. No, I am not "allergic" to cig smoke. It is not an allergen for the majority of people. It is an irritant. And the irritant in the smoke is what causes the cancer. When you cared for your dying sister for 2 years from this foul killer....you learn small details like that. If inhaling unfiltered cig smoke is so wonderful....why you do smokers all have filters on yours????

 

Thankfully, Carnival has instilled some reasonable smoking restrictions. Carnival did its part and I do mine by staying away from the casino and other smoking areas. This thread and my posts was not about the "evils" of smoking. It was about the facts of why Carnival did not do well with their non-smoking ship.

 

livto jump: That's right. An alcoholic is just as inconvenienced because they are not allowed to drink and drive. Or do you want one of your family members killed because a drunk did not want to be inconvenienced???

 

 

Phinfan: I will lighten up when you have watched your big sister die at the age of 54 after two years of H*ll going through what was cobalt (back then) and chemo. before she died. Ever had a little ulcer on your gums. Try your entire throat and lungs covered with them for 6 months....because the cobalt literally burned the interior lining of her throat and lungs. Sorry, but I will not "lighten up" when someone else wants to condemn me to that fate.

 

But then you guys haven't lived it .....yet.

 

BTW, I won't be at karaoke tonight. But it's not because the club is to smoky. The members that run your club (according to Laura) don't allow it to get to smoky in there. There is plenty of room to get away from it and even seating outside. See, some of us are very reasonable in our expectations.

 

I don't expect drug addicts to have a reasonable discussion about this. You are always going to justify your addiction to a drug that sadly totally and completely controls you and your life.

 

All I did was point out some facts about why the Paradise did not work and I tried to give the OP some options on how to make the most of the cruise they pay for. Don't gang up on me because smokers don't like the fact that they are drug addicts and want to inflict harm on me and my family.

[ali6879]

Thank you LHP - you echoed many sentiments I have thought many times. I am sorry for your loss, and for your family. When I was on the ship in July, I expected the smoking on the deck - I did not expect it in the cabins. It makes me consider whether cruising is in fact a good vacation for my family because of the health ailments we also have experienced. I truly wish there would be a smoke free ship/line - and I think one day there will be. Until then, I too will stay away from the bars and the casino areas, and stick to the pool decks, even if I need to stay away from the main pool area.

[L2J]

livto jump: That's right. An alcoholic is just as inconvenienced because they are not allowed to drink and drive. Or do you want one of your family members killed because a drunk did not want to be inconvenienced???

 

 

You're comparing apples and oranges IMO. Sorry.:rolleyes:

 

You know...I really am sorry for your loss but you are not the only one that has ever lost someone to this. Did you say you were the only one.....NO...but you sure make it sound as if you are.

[glrounds]

Very well put, LHP (and I'm a smoker).

 

However, I do not "want" to do harm to your family. The only part of your diatribe I would disagree with. :(

[dms_cruisers04]

LHP, this is obviously too personal a subject for you to be objective about it. How about you sit this one out while the thread gets back to the OP's question?

[yogimax]

You know...I really am sorry for your loss but you are not the only one that has ever lost someone to this. .

 

Some completely insensitive and ridiculous statements when someone has lost a loved one (to cancer or anything else).

 

... you'll get over it

... your loss isn't as bad as mine

... "you are not the only one..."

[dms_cruisers04]

Some completely insensitive and ridiculous statements when someone has lost a loved one (to cancer or anything else).

 

... you'll get over it

... your loss isn't as bad as mine

... "you are not the only one..."

Yeah, almost as bad as

 

But then you guys haven't lived it .....yet.

Almost sounds like someones wishing ill-will on others. Don't ya think?

[L2J]

Some completely insensitive and ridiculous statements when someone has lost a loved one (to cancer or anything else).

 

... you'll get over it

... your loss isn't as bad as mine

... "you are not the only one..."

 

:rolleyes:

[kimberlyandkeith]

Amen LHP!

 

I do think *most* smokers are courteous, though. I do appreciate the courtesy of those smokers. The ones who blow smoke directly in my 2yo daughter's face, well, they're just a special breed.... even if they didn't smoke, they would find ways to torment society.

[Fern Crest]

We, too, sailed the Paradise specifically because it was smoke-free. Our daughter is one of the few who is allergic to cigarette smoke. Her lungs will (and have) just clog up and shut down, and we've gone to the ER several times because of this affliction. Once she had to be carried out of her college classroom because a girl had sat next to her who had just come in from smoking.

 

That being said ...

We sailed the Legend a couple of weeks ago. We were a little nervous about the "smoke stories" we'd heard, but, hey, you gotta give it a chance. We had DD's inhaler, nebulizer, and other paraphenalia ready to go. We even packed her Ionic Breeze for the cabin. For extra insurance, she bought the Personal Ionic Breeze air purifier from www.sharperimage.com ... the one that hangs around your neck. Works like a charm. We were amazed at how much cleaner the air she was breathing actually was. Granted, she had to wear two of those white painter's mask filters in the casino (yes, that was us you saw, lol), and we couldn't stay very long, but she really didn't have that much of a problem otherwise. The smokers are generally very conscientious about where they should and shouldn't smoke, and it's relatively easy to avoid the places where smoking actually occurs.

Enjoy your cruise!

[dan40]

I'm a non smoker [now, heart attack a few years back took away my smoking desire] and sailed the Paradise on her last no smoke cruise. Turned out to be the "Hurricanes everwhere" cruise [affected by 3 hurricanes on 1 cruise].

 

Paradise was the most militant no smoking ship but there have been other lines with non smoking ships. Renissance [sp.] comes to mind. But those lines are all gone and Paradise is now a smoking ship. Don't know if its timing or what, but its strange that its not a viable concept for the cruiselines yet.

 

Dan