Rare CineGraphic Posted May 29, 2023 #126 Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, TYCruise said: Reddit is not the best source for information. At 125ft wide all of the lady ships can easily fit through the Panama Canal new locks which are 180 ft wide. Here is a link to the ship builder website which mentions the ship is identical. https://www.fincantieri.com/en/media/press-releases/2022/fincantieri-brilliant-lady-floated-out-in-sestri-ponente/ Here's a quote from the following link: https://cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/2023/01/virgin-voyages-building-a-brand/ 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYCruise Posted May 29, 2023 #127 Share Posted May 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, CineGraphic said: Here's a quote from the following link: https://cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/2023/01/virgin-voyages-building-a-brand/ Still makes no sense, as the Norwegian Bliss which is much larger in every dimension has sailed through the canal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_tacocat_ Posted May 29, 2023 #128 Share Posted May 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, TYCruise said: Reddit is not the best source for information. At 125ft wide all of the lady ships can easily fit through the Panama Canal new locks which are 180 ft wide. Here is a link to the ship builder website which mentions the ship is identical. https://www.fincantieri.com/en/media/press-releases/2022/fincantieri-brilliant-lady-floated-out-in-sestri-ponente/ The smaller ship size can fit through the older (cheaper) locks/canal/whatever you call it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYCruise Posted May 29, 2023 #129 Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, _tacocat_ said: The smaller ship size can fit through the older (cheaper) locks/canal/whatever you call it. Certainly passengers prefer the older historic locks, so maybe that's what they're going for. It would be a big change through as a ship can't be wider than 106 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted May 31, 2023 #130 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 6:15 AM, FFMilesJunkie said: The Scarlet Lady TA doubled in price a couple days ago. This past weekend was looking at prices in the $2,400 range and now they are close to $5,000 😭 The promos they had have ended. I suspect there will be a new promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted May 31, 2023 #131 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 7:05 AM, jamesv92 said: I've noticed this as well, they might be preparing to announce the cancellation and preempting that people will want to move to the other transatlantic. Looks dodgy! I suspect you are right. I know a group of people, who all booked suites on Brilliant Lady 4/20/2024 sailing. Everyone of them booked a "cheeky corner suites" for about $1200 person, or $2400 per suite. All of the suites have been sold out since last Sept. 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted May 31, 2023 #132 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 7:18 AM, jon81uk said: I would expect anyone currently booked would get a free rebooking anyway. Issue might be that the XL rooms and suites are sold out currently for Scarlets TA. Don't count on any rebooking help. VV's customer service standards, plain out suck! The agents are clueless! I will predict that service recovery for this cancelation will be measly! Don't count on getting a cruise credit and an extra cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted May 31, 2023 #133 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 3:31 PM, HBCcruiser said: That is what the Prima's Captain was referring to. I guess the Aft Overhang (whatever that is) prevents the Prima from transiting the canal. I am glad to hear that the VV ships do not have that issue. Thanks for the article! 🤗 See that deck that sticks out?! That is the overhang! The first is a pic from the VV website of the Brilliant Lady! I am guessing that VV web bozos picked the wrong pic, because the 2nd pic is the Scarlet Lady. The ships look the same. The 3rd pic is supposedly the Brilliant Lady. Do you see the difference? The new locks in the Panama Canal, do not use electric mules to pull the ships thru the locks. Instead they use tug boats to push and pull the ships into and out of the locks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_tacocat_ Posted May 31, 2023 #134 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, notme2012 said: See that deck that sticks out?! That is the overhang! The first is a pic from the VV website of the Brilliant Lady! I am guessing that VV web bozos picked the wrong pic, because the 2nd pic is the Scarlet Lady. The ships look the same. The 3rd pic is supposedly the Brilliant Lady. Do you see the difference? The new locks in the Panama Canal, do not use electric mules to pull the ships thru the locks. Instead they use tug boats to push and pull the ships into and out of the locks. Hmmmm that would mean no wake restaurant in here! Guess we’ll find out soon enough later this year when she launches!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted May 31, 2023 #135 Share Posted May 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, _tacocat_ said: Hmmmm that would mean no wake restaurant in here! Guess we’ll find out soon enough later this year when she launches!!! There still seems to be tables in the graphic. The overhang is how that back deck sticks out on the sides. The lifeboats also do not stick out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_tacocat_ Posted May 31, 2023 #136 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, notme2012 said: There still seems to be tables in the graphic. The overhang is how that back deck sticks out on the sides. The lifeboats also do not stick out at all. The wake is in the big windows right below the outside aft deck area (the dock). Looks like thats missing from brilliant rendering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYCruise Posted May 31, 2023 #137 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) That third pic is an old rendering they've been using since at least before the Valiant Lady launched. Edited May 31, 2023 by TYCruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYCruise Posted May 31, 2023 #138 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The link below has an actual pic of the Brilliant Lady at the ship yard. It looks like they may have eliminated the aft overhang on the sides of the ship as well as the mid-ship overhangs that are just outside the roundabout on deck 7 ( I liked that area but it seemed to be rarely used). https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3500062?page=1&navList=homePhotoFooter&list=latest×tamp=1669732500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon81uk Posted May 31, 2023 #139 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, notme2012 said: Don't count on any rebooking help. VV's customer service standards, plain out suck! The agents are clueless! I will predict that service recovery for this cancelation will be measly! Don't count on getting a cruise credit and an extra cruise. When they cancelled Valiant Lady for the Bachelor charter a year ago they were very generous, I think it was 200% credit plus a refund. They have also been generous recently with refunds such as when the ship turned around after a passenger had an accident. I would expect anyone who gets a cancellation for 2024 to get at least another free cruise and a full refund based on past performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrish2 Posted May 31, 2023 #140 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Is there any shipyard pictures showing the aft? The Wake isn't what I expected them to change however the steps down do feel a little odd. It makes me wonder if Deck 6 might be reconfigured to provide more prominence to the restaurants from main circulation (the roundabout). Of course all speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted May 31, 2023 #141 Share Posted May 31, 2023 10 hours ago, _tacocat_ said: Hmmmm that would mean no wake restaurant in here! I don't think they would entirely eliminate it. It might just be a smaller venue. They could also make up for the lost footage by expanding inward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted May 31, 2023 #142 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Here's another shot of the back of the ship https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3486734? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_tacocat_ Posted May 31, 2023 #143 Share Posted May 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, CineGraphic said: Here's another shot of the back of the ship https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3486734? Ah the wake still looks like it’s there! That’s their highest capacity restaurant, so I would have been really surprised if they canned it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted May 31, 2023 #144 Share Posted May 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, _tacocat_ said: Ah the wake still looks like it’s there! That’s their highest capacity restaurant, so I would have been really surprised if they canned it. Yeah....you don't let views like that go to waste. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogcityca13 Posted May 31, 2023 #145 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, CineGraphic said: Here's another shot of the back of the ship https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3486734? Nice find! Definitely some differences. Exciting to see my cabin for my March trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted June 1, 2023 #146 Share Posted June 1, 2023 19 hours ago, TYCruise said: The link below has an actual pic of the Brilliant Lady at the ship yard. It looks like they may have eliminated the aft overhang on the sides of the ship as well as the mid-ship overhangs that are just outside the roundabout on deck 7 ( I liked that area but it seemed to be rarely used). https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3500062?page=1&navList=homePhotoFooter&list=latest×tamp=1669732500 The pic you posted looks just like the 3rd one I posted. Nothing sticks out over the edges of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted June 1, 2023 #147 Share Posted June 1, 2023 11 hours ago, CineGraphic said: Here's another shot of the back of the ship https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3486734? It does appear that the area, in question, is flatter than on her sister ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notme2012 Posted June 1, 2023 #148 Share Posted June 1, 2023 19 hours ago, jon81uk said: When they cancelled Valiant Lady for the Bachelor charter a year ago they were very generous, I think it was 200% credit plus a refund. They have also been generous recently with refunds such as when the ship turned around after a passenger had an accident. I would expect anyone who gets a cancellation for 2024 to get at least another free cruise and a full refund based on past performance. Not one Brilliant Lady cruise is in final payment. Most people have less than $1000 paid. If I get 200%, I get $1000. That is nothing for the efforts that I have go thru, to cancel all the other arrangements that I have made for this trip. Again, I am not holding my breath. It would be nice, but I sincerely doubt that VV will be as liberal as they were in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYCruise Posted June 1, 2023 #149 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, notme2012 said: The pic you posted looks just like the 3rd one I posted. Nothing sticks out over the edges of the ship. On the aft yes, but the mid ship in the renderings has the bump outs on deck 7, while it looks like they have been eliminated in the final build. VV didn't really take advantage of that area the way NCL and MSC did with pools and hot tubs, so I'm thinking it won't be too big of a loss. Edited June 1, 2023 by TYCruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianCruiser21 Posted June 1, 2023 #150 Share Posted June 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, notme2012 said: Not one Brilliant Lady cruise is in final payment. Most people have less than $1000 paid. If I get 200%, I get $1000. That is nothing for the efforts that I have go thru, to cancel all the other arrangements that I have made for this trip. Again, I am not holding my breath. It would be nice, but I sincerely doubt that VV will be as liberal as they were in the past. Someone on FB just posted that Virgin chartered their cruise for World Poker Tour. This gives a sense of what they are offering for cancellations a year out. I found this online “WPT Voyage onboard Virgin Voyages Scarlet Lady March 31st to April 6th 2024 - Full Ship TAKEOVER!” The FB poster said “Virgin Voyages offered either a 100% refund of what you've paid OR 150% of what you've paid towards a future voyage”. I really hope this Brilliant Lady TA doesn’t get cancelled because that’s totally shitty considering how much prices have gone up since people initially booked the Brilliant TA. Even 200% would be shitty since prices have more than doubled. I don’t think VV will ever have fares as low as they were in 2022. Personally, I’ve spent way too many hours planning travel around this cruise and stressing about it being cancelled. The reward flight ticket I was going to book is now sold out too. Overall, pretty disappointed. Even a 100% refund would be shitty because I paid in a different currency (used a TA for MNVV and the deposit was in USD), so I’ve fully paid and I’ll definitely take a hit on the conversion rate. Does anyone know how the MNVV works in the case of a refund without rebooking? Will I also get that $300 deposit back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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