JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #151 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Did Aunt pam have all her posts removed? Did everyone scare her off?:o Do you blame her? I don't! People on here are personally attacking her character and making fun of her handicap. I am more surprised those posts are not removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futaba951 Posted March 29, 2006 #152 Share Posted March 29, 2006 There was NO sign of any sort of panic on board when it happened..... I did, however, see some lady on an electric wheelchair who looked like she had to go to the bathroom really bad..... It's the same panicked feeling you get when you have to go poopie really bad and you know that there is no toilet paper anywhere in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvgreys Posted March 29, 2006 #153 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Do you blame her? I don't! People on here are personally attacking her character and making fun of her handicap. I am more surprised those posts are not removed. No I do not blame her. But both sides got nasty. I tried to sympathize with her at first, but then she dug her own hole. I guess it is hard when so upset about something to think rationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #154 Share Posted March 29, 2006 No I do not blame her. But both sides got nasty. I tried to sympathize with her at first, but then she dug her own hole. I guess it is hard when so upset about something to think rationally. Both sides did get nasty, but I think she was frustrated and felt like she was being ganged-up on. Then the personal nasty remarks started. Seriously, does this not remind you of your classroom? Reminds me of my kids. I just don't see how people can justify telling others how they should view their experiences or vacations. We all come with different views and backgrounds. What is no big deal to someone may cause panic and discomfort in another. Why is that wrong? Why belittle this woman just because she was upset about a situation she felt uncomfortable in? She is obviously handicapped and maybe things like electricity and feeling in control are now very important to her. Don't judge this woman because we really have no idea what her situation is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #155 Share Posted March 29, 2006 No I do not blame her. But both sides got nasty. I tried to sympathize with her at first, but then she dug her own hole. I guess it is hard when so upset about something to think rationally. I agree.... If you go back and read her posts, you'll see that she started out fine, then went on a rant........ She got nasty and people responded in kind....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #156 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Both sides did get nasty, but I think she was frustrated and felt like she was being ganged-up on. Then the personal nasty remarks started. Seriously, does this not remind you of your classroom? Reminds me of my kids. I just don't see how people can justify telling others how they should view their experiences or vacations. We all come with different views and backgrounds. What is no big deal to someone may cause panic and discomfort in another. Why is that wrong? Why belittle this woman just because she was upset about a situation she felt uncomfortable in? She is obviously handicapped and maybe things like electricity and feeling in control are now very important to her. Don't judge this woman because we really have no idea what her situation is like. If you look at my original response to her, it was just a stunned "wow"... Then later, she started attacking those that posted BEFORE her, getting upset that they said it was a "mountain out of a mole hill." They weren't even responding to her, but to my original post........ She just lost it after that and people responded. She is not a very happy person... I feel bad for that.. but, you shouldnt go on the attack then get upset when people attack back.... That's probably why she decided to delete her messages..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted March 29, 2006 #157 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Both sides did get nasty, but I think she was frustrated and felt like she was being ganged-up on. Then the personal nasty remarks started. Seriously, does this not remind you of your classroom? Reminds me of my kids. I just don't see how people can justify telling others how they should view their experiences or vacations. We all come with different views and backgrounds. What is no big deal to someone may cause panic and discomfort in another. Why is that wrong? Why belittle this woman just because she was upset about a situation she felt uncomfortable in? She is obviously handicapped and maybe things like electricity and feeling in control are now very important to her. Don't judge this woman because we really have no idea what her situation is like. Did you read all of her posts?? I was compassionate at first, but then she started screaming at people that were not "attacking her"... Seriously, nobody was belittling her problem, she seemed to go a bit nuts, and then people made some comments. Things were blown out of proportion in about the 4th post, where they were "standing in the dining room in the dark for hours"... when we know emergency lighting was on within seconds. I'm all for giving an account of the details... but you sort of lose credibility somewhere along the line when you stretch the truth beyond anything believable. I would not judge her... I would say that next time, perhaps someone in her party can either carry her to the restroom, or they can call the pursers desk and they WILL arrange for her to be assisted, rather than waiting for several hours. Sometimes, handicapped or not, we have to ASK for help, not wait for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #158 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Did you read all of her posts?? I was compassionate at first, but then she started screaming at people that were not "attacking her"... Seriously, nobody was belittling her problem, she seemed to go a bit nuts, and then people made some comments. Things were blown out of proportion in about the 4th post, where they were "standing in the dining room in the dark for hours"... when we know emergency lighting was on within seconds. I'm all for giving an account of the details... but you sort of lose credibility somewhere along the line when you stretch the truth beyond anything believable. I would not judge her... I would say that next time, perhaps someone in her party can either carry her to the restroom, or they can call the pursers desk and they WILL arrange for her to be assisted, rather than waiting for several hours. Sometimes, handicapped or not, we have to ASK for help, not wait for it to happen. well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdoxies Posted March 29, 2006 #159 Share Posted March 29, 2006 There was NO sign of any sort of panic on board when it happened..... I did, however, see some lady on an electric wheelchair who looked like she had to go to the bathroom really bad..... Now that is waaaaay too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted March 29, 2006 #160 Share Posted March 29, 2006 She got nasty and people responded in kind....... Other way around, jocko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #161 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I read all the posts. And I never once said she was rational in her posts. Maybe she is an emotional person. Who knows? I don't. My problem is with the "thankgoodness you are not my aunt" and the "don't run over people's toes with your wheelchair" and the "hehe I saw someone in a wheelchair that had to use the bathroom" comments. Why is that called for??? Whether her comments were valid or exaggerated does not justify any of it. Maybe she was emotional and getting worked up - so was everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #162 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Do you blame her? I don't! People on here are personally attacking her character and making fun of her handicap. I am more surprised those posts are not removed. Can anyone tell me how I can remove certain controversial posts, and responses about taking a tuna sandwich off the ship in a port, and taking it to the beach in a baggie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #163 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I read all the posts. And I never once said she was rational in her posts. Maybe she is an emotional person. Who knows? I don't. My problem is with the "thankgoodness you are not my aunt" and the "don't run over people's toes with your wheelchair" and the "hehe I saw someone in a wheelchair that had to use the bathroom" comments. Why is that called for??? Whether her comments were valid or exaggerated does not justify any of it. Maybe she was emotional and getting worked up - so was everyone else. Those would be my comments....... Perhaps she annoyed the hel_ out of me with her tirades and rants.... I didnt start out responding to her that way..... If she stuck to the facts instead of blaming the captain for incontinency, I wouldnt have responded in that manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #164 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Other way around, jocko. jocko? Im hurt and offended. Now im going to remove all my posts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted March 29, 2006 #165 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Those would be my comments....... Perhaps she annoyed the hel_ out of me with her tirades and rants.... I didnt start out responding to her that way..... If she stuck to the facts instead of blaming the captain for incontinency, I wouldnt have responded in that manner. What is your excuse for continuing to respond in that manner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted March 29, 2006 #166 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Can anyone tell me how I can remove certain controversial posts, and responses about taking a tuna sandwich off the ship in a port, and taking it to the beach in a baggie? LOL, you can email Randy and he can help you. I wouldn't worry, she came in and tanked up your thread... you got a little defensive, she got alot crazy... it happens :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted March 29, 2006 #167 Share Posted March 29, 2006 jocko? Im hurt and offended. Now im going to remove all my posts.... Don't blame me - it's Carnival's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DqALEX Posted March 29, 2006 #168 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I woulden't trust John Heald. If he told me there was nothing to worry about I would get my life jacket and get to my life boat. LOL LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #169 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Those would be my comments....... Perhaps she annoyed the hel_ out of me with her tirades and rants.... I didnt start out responding to her that way..... If she stuck to the facts instead of blaming the captain for incontinency, I wouldnt have responded in that manner. Why blame her for your rude comments? It is not up to you to defend the captain or the cruise line. I believe they have some PR people for that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs2k Posted March 29, 2006 Author #170 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Why blame her for your rude comments? It is not up to you to defend the captain or the cruise line. I believe they have some PR people for that job. You're right. I'm wrong. I'll leave the tuna on the ship. <Why does it seem all my threads end the same way?> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrdsb4 Posted March 29, 2006 #171 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Why blame her for your rude comments? It is not up to you to defend the captain or the cruise line. I believe they have some PR people for that job. I understand you are frustrated with the turn the thread took. However, you cannot force posters on this board to post the way you see fit. All you can really do is control your own comments. If others cross the line and you find it that objectionable, hit the button and report it. I have done it myself (only a time or two, when I have seen racist remarks made because that's what really pushes my button). Arguing the point over and over may or may not work with a single individual, but people are gonna say what they want on this board and we really have to leave it up to the moderators to decide when a line has been crossed. Just mho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted March 29, 2006 #172 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Other way around, jocko. I think you need to re read what was said. Her first post was nasty and it got worse from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #173 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I understand you are frustrated with the turn the thread took. However, you cannot force posters on this board to post the way you see fit. All you can really do is control your own comments. If others cross the line and you find it that objectionable, hit the button and report it. I have done it myself (only a time or two, when I have seen racist remarks made because that's what really pushes my button). Arguing the point over and over may or may not work with a single individual, but people are gonna say what they want on this board and we really have to leave it up to the moderators to decide when a line has been crossed. Just mho. I don't want to force posters to post on this board as I see fit or else all we would talk about is the Miracle and my chances of meeting Vin Diesel on the Miracle. Someone mentioned that she was scared away and my comment was "Can you blame her" and it went from there and this thread took yet another turn! I just personally get offended when people comment on handicapped people in a negative way because a lot of the students I work with everyday are in wheelchairs. I see how it affects them when comments are made about them and their situation. No, I am not going to become a caped crusader defending people in wheelchairs in a single bound. Just stating my frustration! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted March 29, 2006 #174 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I think you need to re read what was said. Her first post was nasty and it got worse from there. Her first post was informational and then the monkeys attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirl97 Posted March 29, 2006 #175 Share Posted March 29, 2006 You're right. I'm wrong. I'll leave the tuna on the ship. <Why does it seem all my threads end the same way?> :) I understand your frustration too. At first you were posting what happened on your cruise and people starting accusing you of complaining. When obviously you were not. I thought your first post about the whole situation was objective and it's too bad people got so carried away. Oh, and tuna gives you bad breath and makes you gasy - I suggest you skip it all together! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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