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Your flying fear sounds unique in that you not scared of going into an non recoverable inverted spin, on fire with the wings snapping off. Sounds more terrorist based. Have you looked into chartering a small plane? Hassle free, no lines, no wait.

 

My greatest fear is of those barbarians that call themselves dentists. Just waiting for that old drill to go a hair to far and hit the nerve. My dentist now gives me these two little pills to take an hour before my appointment. They work great! I can drive myself to his office and back but I remember nothing in between!

 

Good luck

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We are all worried too

6 couples from the UK flying to LA for our much awaited and much longed for cruise. Take strength from each other - take the medication - it helps and thank you all for the postings on this thread - I have taken some good advice.

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Just a note about xanax. I find the 24 hr time release (2mg's, I believe) gives me a slight headache, so I only use it for the long hauls, otherwise, I just use the regular pills (one or two of them, and I think they are 1/2 mg), I never am groggy on arrival, and unlike another poster, I purposefully have a glass a wine at meal time on long flights. I find the pill plus wine -- but be sure you discuss this with your doc, as I did -- will put me right to sleep, which is what I want to do on transatlantic flights. (I take one of those blow-up neck pillows in my bag) I also find it has a slight amnesiac affect, because I can hardly even remember the flights -- what did that airport look like? What was the movie? I slept through bad turbulance? I take it about 1/2 hr before boarding.

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To all of you who fear flying, for whatever reason, I hope that one day you can overcome those fears.

 

I've been in love with flying since I was 13. It could be because I discovered that I could hear while the aircraft is in flight -- without my hearing aid! Maybe it's because I love the rollercoaster feeling when we take off and the Ferris Wheel feeling when we land. I realize I'm lucky. My DH is not fond of flying and goes the alprazolam route. In his case, the fear is more based on claustrophobia.

 

Neither of us are willing to give up cruises because of some selfish, egotistical, perverted terrorists. In fact, I'm already ticked w/ the terrorists because, if their aim was to add some chaos to the world, they did it in spades: Flights cancelled, increased surveillance, inconvenience to the flying world because of the carryon restrictions and search procedures -- all these things are costing us big time -- if they haven't hit you yet, they will, when we get yet another surcharge on our airline tickets to pay for the new rules. Off my soapbox now.

 

Being afraid to fly is not all bad. My brother was on (in?) a chat room one night and in the same 'room' was a lady who happened to mention her fear of flying. He was immediately intriqued because of his own fear and they started one of many conversations. This happened about nine years ago. Today that lady is my sister-in-law. :D They were married five weeks after 9- 11. They would never had met if it hadn't been for their Fear of Flying.

 

Good luck to all who need it.

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Just as I thought things were back to normal:

 

 

Affidavit: Woman on diverted flight passed notes to crew, urinated on floor

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(Boston-AP, Aug. 17, 2006 Updated 12:42 PM) _ A woman on a trans-Atlantic flight diverted to Boston for security concerns passed several notes to crew members, urinated on the cabin floor and made comments the crew believed were references to al-Qaida and the Sept. 11 attacks, according to an affidavit filed Thursday.

Catherine C. Mayo, 59, of Braintree, Vt., was to appear in federal court later Thursday on a charge of interfering with a flight crew after disrupting United 923 as it flew from London to Washington, D.C., on Wednesday.

The flight, with 182 passengers and 12 crew members, landed safely with the escort of two F-15s after the pilot declared an emergency on board because Mayo spoke of being in Pakistan and made other remarks the crew believed were references to building a bomb.

Federal officials quickly dismissed any real terror ties shortly after the flight landed. The scare came just a week after London authorities said they foiled a terror plot to blow up trans-Atlantic flights.

According to an affidavit by FBI Special Agent Daniel Choldin filed in U.S. District Court in Boston, flight attendants noticed Mayo about 90 minutes into the flight because she was pushing against the aircraft bulkhead. When the attendant told her to return to her seat, Mayo said she wanted to speak to an air marshal and made statements about knowing that people wanted to see what was in her bag.

FBI spokeswoman Gail Marcinkiewicz confirmed Thursday that authorities found a screwdriver and an unspecified number of cigarette lighters in her bag, items which are banned under new security regulations. Marcinkiewicz also confirmed that matches were found Mayo's bag.

Since a foiled terror plot surfaced in London last week, airports have tightened security in both the United Kingdom and the U.S. Liquids and gels have been banned from carry-on luggage, and even tighter restrictions are in place in Britain.

Later during the flight, according to the affidavit, Mayo asked a flight attendant: "Is this a training flight for United Flight 93?" The flight attendant didn't know if she made a mistake because the flight was actually Flight 923, or if she was referring to Flight 93, the hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11.

During that time, she was "biting her fingers, rubbing her feet and in a constant state of movement. She appeared very agitated," the affidavit said.

She wrote in a note and said to flight attendants that she had been in a country illegally, and later said she had photographs of Pakistan. Her U.S. passport indicated that on Aug. 15 she had left Pakistan and entered the United Kingdom, according to the affidavit.

Flight attendants summoned the captain, who spoke to Mayo. During the conversation, she made reference to there being "six steps to building some unspecified thing."

"She made reference to being with people associated with two words. She stated that she could not say what the two words were because the last time that she had said the two words she had been kicked off of a flight in the United Arab Emirates," according to the affidavit.

The captain and purser both believed that she was referring to al-Qaida, Choldin wrote.

About 35 minutes later, when she tried to go to the bathroom, the flight attendants directed her to a different lavatory. Instead, she pulled down her pants and urinated on the floor, Choldin wrote in the affidavit, which was based on his interviews and those of other federal officials.

At that point, the captain ordered her restrained. Two male passengers helped a flight attendant tackle Mayo and restrain her in plastic cuffs. She remained seated in the galley area of plane until the flight landed, according to the affidavit.

The outburst on the flight -- just a week after London authorities said they foiled a terror plot to blow up trans-Atlantic flights -- prompted a massive security scare.

Gov. Mitt Romney said the woman was claustrophobic and became so upset she had to be restrained, and passengers said Mayo appeared to have emotional problems.

"She was in a frenzy," passenger Martin Drinkwater of London told The Boston Globe. "She then pulled her trousers and knickers down and squatted on the floor."

Antony Nash, 31, of San Diego, said he grew nervous watching the muttering woman seated near him, as she paced and made too many trips to the bathroom. The pilot did not make a general announcement to passengers of what was happening.

"I noticed F-15s next to the plane. I said, 'Oh my God.' And then we saw the emergency vehicles," Nash said.

Terror scares garner particular attention in Boston because of Logan's history. Members of al-Qaida hijacked two planes from Logan on Sept. 11, 2001, and flew them into the World Trade Center towers in New York.

Logan airport also was where an American Airlines Paris-Miami flight was diverted in 2001 when Richard Reid, the so-called shoe bomber, tried to blow up the plane. He was thwarted by attendants and passengers after he tried to light a fuse leading to the concealed plastic explosives in his sneakers. He is now serving a life prison sentence.

 

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With all the thousands of flights all over the world every single day, in every country on earth, how is it possible to know that yours is the one to get hi-jacked? That it has happened is fact, that it will happen again is unknown. It is so infrequent that your chances are extremely small for any incident at all.

 

I'll not stop living my life because of my fears and I will not fear terrorists. I'll be careful, I'll comply with security measures, the events of last week and 9/11 are no excuse to stop and hide in fear.

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This is a great thread everybody, and i can definitely relate. My biggest fear of flying is having a panic attack, i am sure most of you know what i am talking about. There is no worse feeling i have ever endured than the few times i have had a full blown attack. i can almost give myself an attack by thinking aout one......its weird, i know. I have had my doctor offer to give me some sort of sedative or tranquilizer, but as i said, it is the thought of having the panic attack that scares me, once i am in that plane, there is no turning back.....Can anyone else relate?.......Sure would be nice though, i live outside of Boston and cant stand to do the majesty or really any of the New York/Bayonne ships any longer, and i sure as heck aint driving to Florida....LOL

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This is a great thread everybody, and i can definitely relate. My biggest fear of flying is having a panic attack, i am sure most of you know what i am talking about. There is no worse feeling i have ever endured than the few times i have had a full blown attack. i can almost give myself an attack by thinking aout one......its weird, i know. I have had my doctor offer to give me some sort of sedative or tranquilizer, but as i said, it is the thought of having the panic attack that scares me, once i am in that plane, there is no turning back.....Can anyone else relate?.......Sure would be nice though, i live outside of Boston and cant stand to do the majesty or really any of the New York/Bayonne ships any longer, and i sure as heck aint driving to Florida....LOL

 

I can absolutely relate. I have screamed through a flight to New York; passed out and given oxygen in Morocco and tried to exit a plane over Rome and had to be restraint until landing.

I am absolutely telling the truth. I know these incidents and more seem bizarre but my husband can vouch for them.

It wasn't until I was given Xanax that I could fly like a normal person. It's opened a whole new world of travel for me and I really love to travel now.

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What a great thread. I too, am more afraid of having an anxiety attack than anything else, and I hate that feeling of not being in control and at the mercy of someone else. I don't fly but maybe when the reason is compelling enough I will. My issue is that although the dr. has offered to give me something for the flight, I'd be passing out from stress in the weeks leading up to the flight. Or just walking around in la-la land from the time we booked it to landing....

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I can absolutely relate. I have screamed through a flight to New York; passed out and given oxygen in Morocco and tried to exit a plane over Rome and had to be restraint until landing.

 

I am absolutely telling the truth. I know these incidents and more seem bizarre but my husband can vouch for them.

 

It wasn't until I was given Xanax that I could fly like a normal person. It's opened a whole new world of travel for me and I really love to travel now.

 

That really is great that you are able to fly now, maybe i will take the Xanax plunge as well. I am also deathly afraid of elevators in high rise buildings, i think sometime in the near future i will get that prescription from my doctor and test out the Xanax going to the top floor of the John Hancock tower in Boston. That way i will be able to see if it reallytakes the edge off, and if not i can just get off the elevator, rather than a 3 hour flight......LOL

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This is a great thread everybody, and i can definitely relate. My biggest fear of flying is having a panic attack, i am sure most of you know what i am talking about. There is no worse feeling i have ever endured than the few times i have had a full blown attack. i can almost give myself an attack by thinking aout one......its weird, i know. I have had my doctor offer to give me some sort of sedative or tranquilizer, but as i said, it is the thought of having the panic attack that scares me, once i am in that plane, there is no turning back.....Can anyone else relate?.......Sure would be nice though, i live outside of Boston and cant stand to do the majesty or really any of the New York/Bayonne ships any longer, and i sure as heck aint driving to Florida....LOL

 

I can totally realate to everything you have said. My fear is that the plane is going to fall out of the sky or were going to crash or i'm going to loose control. I've had panic attacks for a few years now and have been able to manage them pretty well. I'm only 21 years old and people i've told can't believe that i have them. What can I say it runs in the family. I went on my first ever flight to Calgary Back in June and I was scared of all of the above. I was given Ativan About a year ago and was told to take that when needed so I went back to my doctor before I went on this flight and my doctor told me I could take up to 2mg of it I only take 0.5mg the lowest dose they can give you. Well my flight out there was okay I had a wonderful Stewerdess who talked to me the whole time as well as my boyfriend and I even got to talk to the pilots beforehand. Well I did not llike the feeling at all of loosing control or feeling like I was on a roller coaster. My boyfriend as well as my parents back home thought that i Had taken an ativan to relax me when i actually hadn't because I was going to be Mss tough and work through it well by the sunday of coming back to vancouver I didn't want to get on that Airplane one bit because I was scared so I took my 0.5mg of ativan about 1hr before we left and it relaxed me and calmed some of my nerves. We popped a DVD in the player and i ended up looking out the window the whole time because it relaxed me that much. I used to get sleepy when taking them but now I don't. The only time that i felt like i was loosing control was when we did a 180 out of the Calgary airport to get in the right direction. So With the recent terror threats am i scared to fly. Yes, Will I fly again. Yes but not without my dear friend Ativan. I'm still not happy about not being able to have water because thats what keeps me calm during take off just being able to keep my mouth and throat wet. If it gets too dry i start to freak out. I used to try and fight my Panic Attacks and now I don't I've missed out on to many things and have been afraid to travel. So I've stared taking an anti anxiety medication 2 weeks ago and i've never felt better i'm able to do abit more then i used to. And My upcoming trip to alaska doesn't seem as scary anymore. If anyone would like to contact me let me know i'd love to talk to you and learn some of the things you do to relax yourself or work yourself out of an attack because I know without ativan or knowing i can take it I can work myself into an attack just worrying about having one or being scared of the unknown.

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Thought I'd report that we flew from Raleigh NC to Salt Lake City today. No problems at all. Carried on meds, packed jewelry, keys, belts, etc in carryon bag. Toiletries in double plastic bags in checked luggage. Security was a breeze because of much less carryon luggage as was getting on and off planes. TSA employees were curteous, friendly and helpful but diligent. Not utopia but certainly a pleasant and unpainful experience. Laptop was same as always...took out of case and put in container to go through screening machine. Much unnecessary worry and concern. Hope this puts some anxiety to rest and reassures you.

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That really is great that you are able to fly now, maybe i will take the Xanax plunge as well. I am also deathly afraid of elevators in high rise buildings, i think sometime in the near future i will get that prescription from my doctor and test out the Xanax going to the top floor of the John Hancock tower in Boston. That way i will be able to see if it reallytakes the edge off, and if not i can just get off the elevator, rather than a 3 hour flight......LOL

 

Sounds like a good test "flight"!

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To Kikiwik:

 

The xanax has totally helped me but my doctor says Ativan is the same type thing. But, something else that has helped is keeping my mind busy. I take (or used to take - don't know how it will go with the new rules) a small electronic "Solitaire" game to keep my hands busy. they also have Tetris, yahtzee, etc. You can buy them at Target and toy stores. Really helps to keep my hands busy and something to do. Better than reading - my mind would wonder too much.

 

I hope I can still use it when I fly in October for my Canada/New England cruise on the Constellation.

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Poolwife, I feel you:eek: ! I am terrified of flying but the groups I cruise with fly everywhere. Poolwife on on blood thinner so I can take other medication such an xanax. To make it less scary, I work myself to exhaustion with no sleep for 24 hour prior to the flight and sleep most of the time on the plane. But the one I depend on the most is God. I pray that he takes over the controls on the flight and guide us there and back safely haven't fail yet!

We had a flight schedule out August 7th from Orlando to Chicago when I heard that they had arrested 24 terrorist. People around me were cancelling flight but not at one time I became fearful (I was totally shock of myself) because I was trusting God. We made it back safe with no problems and I have another flight in October. You will be alright because if I can flight anyone can fly because I am Ms. Scary #1.

My children takes their handheld games and their walkman to listen to their music.

Go and enjoy yourself!

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I agree with the poster who said "then they have won".

In 2001 a group of us were booked on a cruise to Europe (for June of 2002)- eight out of the ten friends said they weren't going after 9/11. I thought- what cowards! NCL cancelled the cruise anyway- so it was moot.

I went to Europe anyway with my fourteen year old son. We traveled all around Italy by train and had the trip of a lifetime. Funny thing- in Europe they don't discuss terrorism incessantly as they do here and we watched the news. All our friends at home missed a great trip because of their fears. Now all of these people have been to Europe and have overcome their fears- thankfully.

So, I think that the airports are more beefed up than ever- and remember there haven't been any more terrorist events since 2001. In fact, the most recent event was a "plot"- glad it was interrupted though.

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. The Constellation is so lovely- drive if you have to.

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I wish I could drive to Cape Liberty but being we live near Los Angeles and Port Liberty is in New Jersey that doesn't work well for our time schedule and we are already going to be gone 2 1/2 weeks with our trip. Wish we were retired and had lots of time then I would certainly drive. I know all the facts about there are more accidents in cars every day but somehow it is awfullly scary when those planes go down. Now another plane (the Russian jet) just went down yesterday and I don't like it when I am up there either thinking nothing is holding this thing up there and is it going to just fall out of the sky. I hate it! Unfortunately, if we want to go anywhere it is the only quicker way to get there. I am majorly thinking after this October trip of confining my flying to the west coast area.

Or enjoying my motorhome more and the beauty to be seen in our own area of the country.

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Okay, I am back, went to Florida for a few days, with my Xanax of course, I was alone, DH stayed at home. Even with the new security, no problems. I did notice one thing, even with taking the Xanax, there was a child sitting next to me (about 12 yrs old). The entire flight, he was invading my space. The Xanax didn;t do much with my annoyance with him. But fortunatley it helped me say nothing. Ready for my cruise, I can;t stand the wait.:D

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For those who know me, the fact that I'm afraid of flying should come as no surprise – I’ve publicly admitted it on many occasions. Though I’m rational to the extreme in nearly every other aspect of life, the prospect of getting on a plane triggers a deep and powerful physical reaction that defies description or explanation. I think that my reaction is a combination of one part claustrophobia and ten parts "lack of control." When something goes "thump" or the vehicle pitches hard to one side, I’d like to know the reason. If I was driving I'd probably have a big smile on my face, but as a passenger, it's a different story altogether. The only other activity that incites any sort of adverse reaction for me is talking on the telephone, but that’s another story…

 

I flew fairly frequently over the course of 30 years or so, but suffered an increasing level of anxiety with every trip. Finally, on a business trip, I was simply unable to board a flight home from Tulsa. I took the bus back to Connecticut. One would think that suffering a two-day bus ride would cure all phobias, but when I had to fly again, I was unnerved to the point that I went to a doctor and asked for help. My doctor pulled out his prescription pad and wrote a script for Xanax. "Try this," he said, "you'll love flying."

 

My trial was a flight from Boston to San Diego, about the most challenging route that could be plotted in the lower 48. I took a pill about an hour before launch, marched with some rapidly fading trepidation to my seat, and opened a new paperback. The experience was amazing. The little pill seemed to turn off all of my anxiety circuits, and I was completely unfazed by anything and everything. Thumps, hard turns, turbulence, bad coffee - nothing fazed me during the entire eight hours. I did doze a couple of times, but mainly I read for pleasure - finishing the paperback shortly before landing. I was able to converse and function normally, but I couldn't get worked up over anything.

 

Some weeks after I got home, I picked up the book that I'd read on the flight and started reading it again. I couldn't remember the story at all, and reread the whole thing. For me (and as previously mentioned by another poster), the medication caused some amnesia, but otherwise, the experiment was an unqualified success. I certainly got my money's worth out of that one book...

 

Kris (my wife) and I just returned from a trip out west to install our son, Wells, at the University of Arizona in Tucson. In the years since my first trial of Xanax I've learned to overcome the amnesia to a degree, and I can now recall most of what happens. I vividly recall this most recent journey.

 

We made our trip west just a day before the latest terrorism scare from Great Britain, and it was uneventful. Coming home was a different story...

 

We got to the airport in Tucson for the first leg of the flight home with plenty of time to spare. Feeling a crushing anxiety build while returning the rental car, I found a drinking fountain and swallowed a magic pill. A half-hour later, we made our way to the security checkpoint. I dutifully removed my shoes and loaded them on the conveyor with my carry-on bag for x-ray, emptied my pockets of loose change and removed my belt before entering the metal detector. The machine went nutty as I passed through, and an armed guard leapt into my path. "Please step back and come through the machine again," he said, sternly.

 

The machine went nutty again and the guard shouted, "Male alert! Station 1. Male alert! Station 1." Two more armed guards rushed in my direction, took measures to ensure that I couldn't get away, and instructed me to retrieve my belongings from the x-ray machine before escorting me to an examination area.

 

One guard departed and the other one looked me over carefully. I'm sure he was looking for signs of evasiveness and nervousness, but he most assuredly found none. We'd just come in from 102 degree desert heat, but neither that nor the current situation caused me to break a sweat. It just isn't possible under the influence of Xanax. Despite the situation, I did not feel the least bit nervous - for this reason, I suggest that it would be a bad idea to take a dose of Xanax just before touring an unsavory section of a strange city late at night, alone.

 

Unable to extract a confession from me, the guard carefully scanned my being with a hand-held metal detector. It beeped every time it passed over my right pants pocket.

 

"Turn out your pockets," the guard instructed.

 

I did so, revealing that they were completely empty. The scanner still beeped, so the guard pulled the pocket fabric taught and examined it carefully. If you wear pants, you have probably noticed that lint tends to collect in the sharp corners of the pockets. When the guard carefully extracted my personal lint collection, he found, neatly cocooned within, a 1/4" piece of wrapper from a roll of Life Savers. The wrapper was lined with aluminum foil. Case solved.

 

The search didn't end there, however. Every seam in my clothing was examined, my carry-on was emptied and evaluated, and I was questioned extensively. If I were being profiled based on appearance or name, I suppose the guard could have suspected that I was with the IRA - I do look somewhat like a Leprechaun.

 

Finally satisfied that I posed no threat, the guard allowed me to get dressed and repack my bag. Completely unmoved by the whole affair, I rejoined a fretting Kris.

 

"What was that all about?" she asked.

 

"Life Savers," I answered. “No big deal…”

 

We boarded the plane, a Southwest Airlines 737, and secured some seats (for those unfamiliar, Southwest does not assign seats – it’s every man, woman and child for themselves). Southwest employees are apparently trained as comedians, and the flight attendant launched in to the funniest pre-flight speech I'd ever heard. Xanax does leave the sense of humor intact.

 

"Ladies and gentlemen, no smoking is allowed inside the aircraft at any time. However, we at Southwest are pleased to introduce our new smoking lounges - one on each side of the plane, on the wings, accessible through these doors marked "exit." The feature film in the smoking lounges today is Gone With the Wind. If there is anything we can do to make your flight with us today more enjoyable, please don't ask."

 

The first leg of the flight would take us to Las Vegas. The captain pulled away from the gate and got on the horn. "Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for settling your differences over the seating so quickly. Because of your efforts, we are departing ahead of schedule and we'll have you safely on the ground in the City of Lost Wages ten minutes early. We're grateful for the opportunity to take some of your money before the casinos get it. Thanks for flying Southwest."

 

We got in line on the taxiway and watched three or four planes take off before it was our turn. I was already reading my book as the engines spooled up, but looked up when I heard the whine abruptly spool down and felt the plane turn sharply to the right. A couple of minutes later we pulled up to the gate, and seconds after that, a posse of US Marshalls thundered down the center aisle toward the rear of the plane.

 

All of the passengers, including Kris but excepting me, murmured with anxious voices. I went back to my book, but Kris interrupted my concentration. "What is happening? Who are those people? What are they doing? Why did we come back to the terminal? This is really strange - aren't you worried?"

 

I shook my head and resumed reading. A commotion was heard from the back of the plane, and then the authorities hustled a passenger and his baggage down the aisle and out the door. The door closed promptly, and we were in the air before I finished a page in the book.

 

"Ladies and gentlemen," the captain said in a calm voice as the landing gear closed with a reassuring thump and the plane banked extremely hard to the left, "we apologize for the delay - we had a minor passenger issue. But you should thank Southwest Airlines, because now you'll have a little less time to lose you money in Las Vegas. It always pays to fly Southwest. We'll be flying at 19,000 feet and have just enough time for a bag of peanuts..."

 

I finished my chapter as we landed. There was enough of a lay-over to enable us to lose $5 in a slot machine (the Las Vegas airport is full of them) and to have a quick lunch. I was selected at random for a carry-on search at the boarding gate for the flight from Vegas to Manchester, NH, but Kris managed to save me a seat. I listened to other people talk, and gathered that a newlywed couple occupied the aisle seats two rows apart on the opposite side of the plane. I felt for them and considered volunteering to move and let them sit together – but then had another thought.

 

"Move over – swap seats," I said to Kris.

 

"But you don't like to be by the window," Kris said with a puzzled look - but she complied.

 

After we took off, I put my book aside, pressed my nose to the window, and stared down for the next hour as we passed directly over Hoover Dam, Lake Mead, the Grand Canyon, and Lake Powell - a sight that, in spite of the medication, I will never forget. Good stuff...

 

All the best,

chesterh

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chesterh:

Thanks for the terrific description of what it was like to be on Xanax with your wonderful stories.

I can really relate to the amnesia part. When I was first given Xanax, the prescribed amount was too strong for me. On the plane, I felt wonderful. It was a long flight and I became a social butterfly chatting with a number of people on the flight. Many were going to the same resort we were going to. The next day, a number of people stopped me to say Hello and "How are things going?" I could not remember any of them! I felt like such a fool until my DH rescued me.

After having my dose of Xanax reduced for the next flight, all was calm and I had my memory back. What a strange experience.

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