Smoking on cruiseships

[Smartcookie]

I just read a "live from the Caribbean Princess" post from a woman who has an inside cabin that reeked of cigarette smoke, which I think is HORRIBLE for a guest to have to endure, and it makes me wonder why, in this day and age, with smoking banned in almost all closed public areas, the cruiselines even allow smoking in cabins?

 

I can see letting people smoke on balconies, on deck or outside in smoking allowed areas, but I really, really think that cigarette smoke is not something non-smokers should have to endure in their cabins, especially cabins without access to fresh air.

 

Are there cruiselines that don't allow smoking in the cabins? If so that is something I will keep in mind when booking next time, it hadn't occured to me until I read that thread.

 

Thoughts?

[sept10dsm]

I just read a "live from the Caribbean Princess" post from a woman who has an inside cabin that reeked of cigarette smoke, which I think is HORRIBLE for a guest to have to endure, and it makes me wonder why, in this day and age, with smoking banned in almost all closed public areas, the cruiselines even allow smoking in cabins?

 

I can see letting people smoke on balconies, on deck or outside in smoking allowed areas, but I really, really think that cigarette smoke is not something non-smokers should have to endure in their cabins, especially cabins without access to fresh air.

 

Are there cruiselines that don't allow smoking in the cabins? If so that is something I will keep in mind when booking next time, it hadn't occured to me until I read that thread.

 

Thoughts?

I agree, there s/b no smoking inside the cabins. I believe Disney has no smoking in the cabins.

[SallyMay]

The room steward could have helped with the problem. They use something that will take away the ordor.

[FloridaLaura]

I agree there should not be smoking inside a cabin for safety reasons as well as smelly reasons. Hubby and I are both smokers, and when we stay at a hotel or cruise we never smoke in the cabin or a hotel room. At home we only smoke outside. I can't imagine how smoky it would get after 7 days of no fresh air in there with 2 of us smoking. The least the cruiseships should do is offer smoking or non-smoking cabins at time of reservations.

[Smartcookie]

I hadn't even considered the safety aspect but yes, can you imagine what a hazard it is! I would think that from a legal standpoint alone the cruiselines would be afraid of someone falling asleep with a cigarette...:eek:

[mike35]

Oceania Cruise Lines has taken the lead in limiting smoking on its three wonderful ships. There is absolutely no smoking allowed in cabins *OR* verandas (why should a non-smoker enjoying his/her veranda have to endure cigarette smoke blowing in from an adjacent veranda??). There is also no smoking allowed in any public areas, including casinos. The only two areas where smoking is permitted are a small corner of an outside deck, and a small corner of the Horizon Lounge.

 

Oceania makes it perfectly clear that they have a zero tolerance for violators. They will be escorted off the ship at the next port.

 

Has this hampered Oceania's popularity? Hardly! Their cruises are 100% booked months in advance.

 

Please don't flame me for this report, as you would only be shooting the messenger.

 

Mike

[barbarah33]

Carnival tried a non-smoking ship: The Paradise. There was no smoking on it period - for staff or passengers. Then it wasn't selling very well so I believe they stopped it. I have heard that it is back to non-smoking or they are considering bringing it back. Perhaps somebody knows more than me about it right now. It would seem though that if they were having problems selling out just one ship then the other lines could run into the same.

[go sea]

Why Go On A Cruise If Its That Bad? People Complain About The Smoke, About The Fat In The Food,people Drinking,chair Hogs,just Plain Loud Rude People.it Sounds Like I'm In New York City.

[lawyerrose]

I'm not a smoker, but I think ANOTHER ban on where smokers and enjoy a cigarette is the LAST thing we need! Smokers are the new lepers of our society. Get a grip, people! I can remember when my doctor had a lit cigarette during an office visit! We have polluted air by autos, but no one wants to ban them. We eat polluted food loaded with hormones and other chemicals; eat fruits and vegetables loaded with pesticides; and we eat fried fast food and are addicted to sugar-laden snacks. To get so hysterical about ONE source of possible pollution and act like smokers are morally suspect is ridiculous in my opinion. Are we going to get to the stage where we'll be telling people they can't smoke in their own homes or automobiles???! :mad:

[Smartcookie]

Mike, thanks, great to know, I'd love to try Oceania, maybe when we plan our next no-kids cruise!

 

Go Sea, would you mind explaining your comment regarding NYC? Are you implying that New Yorkers complain or that there are a lot of drunk, loud, rude, smokers there?

 

I'm guessing you don't get to the city very often. ;)

[Smartcookie]

I'm not a smoker, but I think ANOTHER ban on where smokers and enjoy a cigarette is the LAST thing we need! Smokers are the new lepers of our society. Get a grip, people! I can remember when my doctor had a lit cigarette during an office visit! We have polluted air by autos, but no one wants to ban them. We eat polluted food loaded with hormones and other chemicals; eat fruits and vegetables loaded with pesticides; and we eat fried fast food and are addicted to sugar-laden snacks. To get so hysterical about ONE source of possible pollution and act like smokers are morally suspect is ridiculous in my opinion.

 

Rose, why the rant? Who needs to get a grip here? First of all I don't see anyone "getting hysterical" or calling smokers "morally suspect". I'm not saying smoking should be banned from cruisehips completely (it's OK to smoke outside)but, closed cabins on cruisehips AREN'T people's own homes, and if their smoking results in the next guest having to choke on the stench of cigarettes, then I think they ought not be allowed to do so.

 

How is it fair that all the non-smoking and considerate smokers have to live with the smell of the inconsiderate smokers for a week? Why should a person with possible allergies or just a severe aversion to smoke have to put up with it?

[lawyerrose]

I'm not saying it should be banned from cruisehips completely (it's OK to smoke outside)but, closed cabins on cruisehips AREN'T people's own homes, and if their smoking results in the next guest having to choke on the stench of cigarettes, then I think they ought not be allowed to do so.

 

How is it fair that all the non-smoking and considerate smokers have to live with the smell of the inconsiderate smokers for a week?

 

Perfume is very offensive to many people. How fair is it that the non-perfume-wearing people have to live with the horrible smell of all the perfume-wearing people all over the ship (including the rooms, where it lingers?)

[Smartcookie]

I've yet to enter a cabin or hotel room and be overcome by the stench of lingering perfume, but if you say so.....:rolleyes:

 

My son has severe asthma, there is no way he would last a week in a smoke infested cabin without serious side-effects.

 

Luckily we haven't had that problem on a cruise, but we did in a hotel once and they moved us to a clean smelling room. If that did occur on a cruiseship and the ship were full, there would be a problem.

[lawyerrose]

It's just seems funny to me that smokers have been smoking on cruise ships since they invented them. If I recall correctly, they even smoked in the dining rooms. Certainly in their own staterooms. Now, all of a sudden (since nonsmokers have enjoyed national approval) rooms SMELL so bad when smokers have been there! What, did they not smell 20 years ago? 10 years ago? We didn't hear how offensive and terrible it was to have to stay in a hotel room that allowed smoking or a stateroom on a ship just a short while ago. But now it's the in thing to diss smokers

Suddenly, cigarettes stink much more and everybody's allergic. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

[Smartcookie]

Suddenly, cigarettes stink much more and everybody's allergic. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

 

No, they've always stunk, I grew up in the home of a smoker, after going away to college I couldn't stand to go back into my home, and since my dad died of lung cancer 15 years ago the smell has dissipated but still remains.

 

And if you wan't to argue the medical implications of second hand smoke be my guest, I don't have the time or inclination to prove you wrong.

[lawyerrose]

Rose, why the rant? Who needs to get a grip here? First of all I don't see anyone "getting hysterical" or calling smokers "morally suspect".

 

You don't think the anti-smokers can get hysterical about it?? Where have you been hanging out? And I never said anyone of the board as literally called smokers morally suspect, but that can be the attitude of many nonsmokers I've run into. Just the fact that they would light up a cigarette in their room automatically makes them "inconsiderate." Geesh!

 

And, yes, I HAVE been overwhelmed with strong perfumes in rooms and certainly in public places on ships. I guess it's better than BO :eek: (That was a joke, Smartcookie.)

[FloridaLaura]

LawyerRose, No one was getting hysterical, just pointing out facts. I only suggested maybe the cruise lines can offer smoking and non smoking cabins, so that the people who are allergic or can't stand the smell, can be happy with a non smoking room and the smokers who want to fill up their cabins with smoke can do so, although I feel that is really a risky practice with fire safety and all. And of course add alcohol into the mix, intoxicated person sets cabin on fire with cigarette he fell asleep in bed while smoking. hummmm We won't take that chance and we are smokers but I try and respect non smokers also

[bdjam]

I'm not getting into all the rant, but the passenger who had issues with the cabin on Caribbean Princess should have asked the room steward to take care of it - they have cleaners they use that get rid of the smoke smell.

As for safety in the cabins, as the Star Princess fire will attest, the cabins are well equipped to stop fires...in her case it was the balconies that weren't.

[johnql]

Are there cruiselines that don't allow smoking in the cabins? If so that is something I will keep in mind when booking next time, it hadn't occured to me until I read that thread.

Here's a link to a very good CC article outlining the smoking policies on pretty much all the major cruiselines.

 

http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=225

[Tannersgramp]

OK, OK everyone stop for a minute

 

I've got my popcorn now

 

Continue

[Shipyard Cruiser]

LawyerRose, No one was getting hysterical, just pointing out facts. I only suggested maybe the cruise lines can offer smoking and non smoking cabins, so that the people who are allergic or can't stand the smell, can be happy with a non smoking room and the smokers who want to fill up their cabins with smoke can do so, although I feel that is really a risky practice with fire safety and all. And of course add alcohol into the mix, intoxicated person sets cabin on fire with cigarette he fell asleep in bed while smoking. hummmm We won't take that chance and we are smokers but I try and respect non smokers also

 

Most large hotel chains only offer non-smoking rooms.

 

Why should a cruise line be different?

[FloridaLaura]

:p Good one Tanners

[FloridaLaura]

Most large hotel chains only offer non-smoking rooms.

 

Why should a cruise line be different?

I am not sure what you are trying to say I am sorry...we just stayed at a Hilton in Orlando and we were offered a smoking or a non smoking room also at a Holiday Inn I believe is where we stayed a few months back and we were offered a smoking or a non smoking. I feel the same way you do why should a cruiseline be any different. :)

 

PS It is not like I was suggesting wearing jeans in the dining room for heavens sake :)

[Colo Cruiser]

Without starting a whole other debate on smoking etc.

 

I enjoy a cigar on the balcony and even if I were a cigarette smoker I would never be that inconsiderate to smoke inside the cabin.

I am considerate of others, clean up my mess, don't throw ashes or butts over the side of the ship . :eek:

[Casshew]