Poll: Should cabins/balconies be all smoking cabins/balconies?

[xpcdoojk]

Yawn... putting me to sleep watching all of these crusades without meaning or effect.

 

Holy rollers roll on! :D The crusade is on the march. Join our band of consecrated zealots! :D

 

You people really ought to look at yourselves.:eek: You just couldn't let this slide into oblivion. Gotta kick the poor dead horse one more time.:rolleyes: Poor Horsey!

 

jc

[ILov2cruise]

On our last cruise the man in the next room smoked cigars on the deck constantly and I am allergic to cigar smoke so i never really got to go on the deck at the times i would have liked to.

 

 

Allergic to smoke?? It's there in your cabin, on the walls, floor, ceiling, bed.

You don't have to smell it or see it for it to be there. Do you think they steam clean every cabin after every cruise.

[FLACRUISER99]

How about this folks, who has not seen some Jerk toss a lighted butt overboard. The Star Princess fire is reason enough to ban smoking on balcony's

[teajak]

How about this folks, who has not seen some Jerk toss a lighted butt overboard. The Star Princess fire is reason enough to ban smoking on balcony's

Our last cruise on Celebrity we were on our balcony,deck 8, someone threw one over and it blew back onto our balcony and landed on our daughter, pretty scary.

[Suzanne74]

Okay I am still curious about those that chose NO to having both smoking AND nonsmoking cabins on a cruise? Are you honestly that ignorant that you rather non-smokers to always put up with it or are you just on a mission to show how many people DO smoke and should be able to smoke wherever they want no matter what?

 

I honestly don't get it. Why wouldn't you all allow some non-smoking rooms? It doesn't say no to all rooms, it doesn't say no in the casinos, it doesn't say no to the bars - why do you care what the others rooms are if yours is smoking????

 

One side of the ship smoking - the other side non-smoking. What is your beef with that smokers???

[boaterette]

Okay I am still curious about those that chose NO to having both smoking AND nonsmoking cabins on a cruise? Are you honestly that ignorant that you rather non-smokers to always put up with it or are you just on a mission to show how many people DO smoke and should be able to smoke wherever they want no matter what?

 

I honestly don't get it. Why wouldn't you all allow some non-smoking rooms? It doesn't say no to all rooms, it doesn't say no in the casinos, it doesn't say no to the bars - why do you care what the others rooms are if yours is smoking????

 

One side of the ship smoking - the other side non-smoking. What is your beef with that smokers???

 

Well lets see. Restaurants---one half smoking the other half non then poof all non smoking

 

Hotels one half smoking the other non smoking then poof all non smoking

 

Bars one half smoking the other half non then poof all non smoking

 

It seems every place starts off half and half and then poof it all goes non smoking.

 

Perhaps smokers are tired of giving an inch and the non smokers then taking a mile and telling smokers to stand out in the rain to smoke

[Suzanne74]

Well lets see. Restaurants---one half smoking the other half non then poof all non smoking

 

Hotels one half smoking the other non smoking then poof all non smoking

 

Bars one half smoking the other half non then poof all non smoking

 

It seems every place starts off half and half and then poof it all goes non smoking.

 

Perhaps smokers are tired of giving an inch and the non smokers then taking a mile and telling smokers to stand out in the rain to smoke

 

Well beside the hotels, all of those places are public areas and realized that half smoking doesn't really cut it. Honestly, I don't remember bars every being half smoking. In my area it went to all to nothing by county laws. Restaurants had smoking/nonsmoking for years and it never bothered me. They too had to change to all non-smoking because of laws. Also the public areas like bars/restaurants did this so their employees or non-smoking customers wouldn't get lung cancer from 2nd hand smoke.

 

Not even close to half of the hotels have all non-smoking rooms and the ones that changed to all smoking did so because of fire/smoke issues and not because non-smokers demanded it.

[DC2OC]

Perhaps some smokers are frustated that non-smokers are getting to the point that they are no longer willing to give in to the FEW smokers that are too selfish r to respect a persons right to a smoke free enviorment.Additionally hotels that went non-smoking or 90% non-smoking did so because the paying public demanded it.

[MGoBlue2]

Perhaps some smokers are frustated that non-smokers are getting to the point that they are no longer willing to give in to the FEW smokers that are too selfish r to respect a persons right to a smoke free enviorment.Additionally hotels that went non-smoking or 90% non-smoking did so because the paying public demanded it.

Sorry, but there is no innate "right" to a smoke free environment any more than there is an innate "right" to a smoking enviroment. There are laws/polices which regulate the situation, but that's it. And, to the extent that a law/policy designates an area/enviroment as smoking, you have no right to a smoke free environent.

[DC2OC]

Oh contrare,I do have a right to a smoke free enviorment and laws are being passed all the time to prove it.Have you ever heard of a smoker suing and winning a right to smoke? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Get use it.We do have a right and we will keep it..................:) How's the poll going? This is fun

[bankr Mike]

Perhaps smokers are tired of giving an inch and the non smokers then taking a mile and telling smokers to stand out in the rain to smoke

 

I firmly believe the market should control these issues. The facts are that everywhere smoking has been banned in restaurants and bars, business has INCREASED. I am not, however, a fan of legislating issues such as this. I think if you want to legislate anything, require that restaurants, bars, airlines, hotels, etc., etc., prominently display whether or not they allow smoking. The market will do the rest. If you know they allow smoking on an airplane and choose to buy a ticket, you have no reason to complain. Same with restaurants, bars, hotels, movie theaters . . . My guess is that an airline that flew cross-country flights and allowed smoking could charge a SUBSTANTIAL premium!

 

Otherwise, outlaw the drug all together. Don't be legislative hypocrites--treating smokers as pariah while at the same time relying on the billions in taxes paid by them.

[beachlady58]

Sorry, but there is no innate "right" to a smoke free environment any more than there is an innate "right" to a smoking enviroment. There are laws/polices which regulate the situation, but that's it. And, to the extent that a law/policy designates an area/enviroment as smoking, you have no right to a smoke free environent.

 

I love my smoke free town in MA - and I believe thast my kids and I have a right to breathe air not contiminated by 2nd hand smoke!:D

[bankr Mike]

The market will do the rest. If you know they allow smoking on an airplane and choose to buy a ticket, you have no reason to complain. Same with restaurants, bars, hotels, movie theaters . . .

 

My loving wife has pointed out to me that my comment could be misconstrued. My point in saying one has "no right to complain" is premised on market theory and the assumption that there are viable non-smoking alternatives out there. Stated differently, if there are 2 identical cruises on 2 identical ships sailing 2 identical itineraries, where one is smoking and costs $500 per person and the other is non-smoking and costs $700 per person, if you choose to go on the smoking cruise, you have no right to complain. I recognize that this currently is not reality, but the market is never perfect. The fact that this poll is out there at all suggests that the market is at work. Somewhere, someone at a cruise company is saying, "70% want some non-smoking alternatives." Whether they take the risk to accomodate those is another story.

[yarlenna]

Poll should have #3 Question, Should smoking be baned in all cabins and balcony's. YES

 

I would have voted C too!

[teajak]

You will never get smoking banned in the US as long as the tobacco companies continue to bring in huge amounts of taxes to the individual states. Lobbyists continually provid the lawmakers with big money and big payoffs. Tobacco is every bit as deadly and addictive a drug as heroin and should have the same legal consequences but it brings in too much money.

[HurricaneSally]

I'm a prude!!

 

When I moved to Morro Bay, Ca years ago they already said no smoking in bars/restaurants. It was so awesome I didn't want to leave. Shortly after I moved back to the east most of my area was beginning to do the same. Whew...

 

Montgomery County Maryland is 100% smoke free in any inside building and actually has designated smoking areas outside in public areas. You can't walk around our town center outside lighting up - you have to go to certain areas. I love it!!!

 

Call me a prude but my lungs are clean. Sorta like calling a teen girl a prude too - I guess being a skank with diseases is cooler then being a prude?:rolleyes:

 

Do you hold your breath when a car passes you on the street? Do you open windows in the winter so the phenyls in your woodwork and furniture can escape outside? If you do, maybe your lungs are clean, but I would bet they are not as clean as you think.

[cruisinMike]

Yawn... putting me to sleep watching all of these crusades without meaning or effect...............

 

jc

 

Yet you keep coming back. Amazing how folks are so bored with this but they just can't keep from coming back. Something tells me this horsey won't die, just like it wouldn't on planes, restaurants, workplace..........

 

Maybe we should check and see what the scientific method experts would say about people who are bored with something but keep coming back.

[xpcdoojk]

Did I miss the communion of the smug? :confused: I understand that there is a beautiful liturgy with it. :rolleyes:

 

Roll Holy Rollers Roll. :p

 

The religion of anti-smoking. Science and reason has no place. Roll Holy Rollers Roll.:D

 

jc<----humming along with the Clash

 

Poor Horsey......

[cruisinMike]

Did I miss the communion of the smug? :confused: I understand that there is a beautiful liturgy with it. :rolleyes:

 

Roll Holy Rollers Roll. :p

 

The religion of anti-smoking. Science and reason has no place. Roll Holy Rollers Roll.:D

 

jc<----humming along with the Clash

 

Poor Horsey......

 

You must have missed the smug in post 101.

[Suzanne74]

Otherwise, outlaw the drug all together. Don't be legislative hypocrites--treating smokers as pariah while at the same time relying on the billions in taxes paid by them.

 

I somewhat agree with this. Problem is, decades ago no one realized smoking was deadly, years ago they found out 2nd hand smoke is deadly and now very recently they started talking about 3rd hand smoke. Problem is they make a ton of money off of it and people who know the ill effects of smoking still aren't quitting. Banning it completely would make a huge uproar so by outlawing it in public areas, you are helping the non-smokers but still allowing smokers to smoke in their own homes, car or other non-public areas. It smokers want to pay the outrageous taxes they are charged and continue to smoke and rot their teeth, wrinkle their skin, and contaminate their lungs - by all means they should have that right - as long as they don't smoke in non-designated areas.

[beachlady58]

You will never get smoking banned in the US as long as the tobacco companies continue to bring in huge amounts of taxes to the individual states. Lobbyists continually provid the lawmakers with big money and big payoffs. Tobacco is every bit as deadly and addictive a drug as heroin and should have the same legal consequences but it brings in too much money.

 

I predict that it will be banned in the next 5 years. MA is talking of giving tickets to anyone that drives smoking with a child under the age of 5!

[AFT_LOVER]

so smoke free ships are not out of the question. Cleveland is smoke free. SO strange to walk into a restaurant & be seated in the bar area which was always repulsive withsmokers. It is like a new restaurant to be seated in that room. Smokers have to be 500 feet from the entrance also so smoke doesn't walk in with customers.

 

I hate to walk down a hallway with people smoking away since they were kicked out of their stateroom. So at least all indoor areas are no smoking! That includes the casino too! Canada is smokefree in casinos & they are packed!

 

Smokers can have an area of the ship to go to (outdoors on the railing). I vote a sin tax of $10 a pack be put on them for many to quit! We one in Cleveland & it built Browns Stadium, The Jake, & Gund Arena which was sold to Quicken Loans owner when he bought the Cavs. The tax is on booze & cigarette/cigars/tobacco. It is $3 a pack here in Cleveland but should rise. Funny that the homeless smoke! They could pay for rent instead.

[Erie Dave]

Then there are those of us former smokers who confuse the issue even more. The problem really is that it is very difficult to truely separate smoking areas from non-smoking areas. I think in that case, the non-smoking should prevail. In an area where you can really isolate non-smokers from the smoke--smoke away!

[MGoBlue2]

101... was a testament to insight.

 

We have the pure and chaste non smokers as the pure followers of the religion, and we have the evil wicked and must be damned smokers who are killing the pure and of course themselves, not that the pure give a rip. Of course, there is the third group, those that believe in liberty who are bemused about those pure followers of the true faith, who have no tolerance, no shame and no compassion. It is impressive what people can make themselves believe without any doubts. Those that know they are right. How do they know, because they have faith. :( Those jihadist have nothing on you of the true anti-smoking faith!:rolleyes: :p

 

jc

Count me in with the third group. Although, I do have a cigar once every 5-10 years, so I'm not sure I qualify.

[HurricaneSally]

My problem is that, the government doesn't own any of the bars or restaurants in my town, but they think they do. Let the owners decide whether they want to be smoke free or not, and let employees decide where they work.

 

I don't understand people that want big brother to legislate what they own privately. Help me with this concept, please. It's scary to me that so many people want this.