TimInOhio Posted April 2, 2008 #1 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Forgive me, but the search function keeps giving me an error, so I will ask here. I'm planning a group cruise on Princess. My usual TA has informed me that getting a free berth or cabin is "very rare," even though I have read several places that generally 16 paid passengers in 8 cabins qualifies the group leader for a free berth - and that 16 more paid passengers in 8 more cabins usually means a free double occupancy cabin for the group leader. My question is this: is the free berth/cabin dictated by Princess or by each TA? Have I misunderstood the way it works? I've already got 22 people ready to go, and I want to make sure I understand things go as I think they should. Thanks in advance! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toto2Kansas Posted April 2, 2008 #2 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Tim, Although I can't answer your question, I think this would be one thing I would call Princess about and see what there answer is before believing everything a travel agent told me. My understanding is there is a free berth for so many cabins booked, although I can't remember how many that needs to be. Now I could be wrong on this one, but it is definitely worth checking into direct with Princess Cruisers. 1-800-PRINCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinchem Posted April 2, 2008 #3 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Just book them, and see how it falls in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aug91964 Posted April 2, 2008 #4 Share Posted April 2, 2008 i am a travel agent and can tell you, yes you do get 1 free for every 8 cabins double occupancy cruise rate, you must pay the taxes. i would call another agent that will offer that to you. our agency always gives the client that perk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Diego Ellie Posted April 2, 2008 #5 Share Posted April 2, 2008 My TA has informed me of the same benefit as outlined above. Dump your TA right away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fllady Posted April 2, 2008 #6 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I agree dump your TA and eithr go with princess or get another TA that y ou can feel comfortable with. My TA is always telling me to get a group together and get a cabin for free, but I am too lazy! :o This is with Princess. Not sure how the other cruiselines do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Rain Posted April 2, 2008 #7 Share Posted April 2, 2008 We received the free deal (for one passenger only) when we sailed with our group for our wedding. What we received was one cruise fare free, had to pay the taxes still. And we received the money when we returned from our cruise. We had 10 cabins booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimInOhio Posted April 2, 2008 Author #8 Share Posted April 2, 2008 We received the free deal (for one passenger only) when we sailed with our group for our wedding. What we received was one cruise fare free, had to pay the taxes still. And we received the money when we returned from our cruise. We had 10 cabins booked. Do you mean that you had to pay the cruise fare, but it was refunded after your cruise was over? That seems like an odd way to do things, especially with all I've read about Princess having problems refunding money and making adjustments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottoCruise Posted April 2, 2008 #9 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have 16 booked in 8 Dble. cabins - my TA told m I will get 1 free berth (Average Total of lowest 16 fares - minus taxes) .........I don't know exactly how this will be paid/rebated (I have asked my TA for the final figures as the Final Payment is coming due) - I think it will come off my own final payment balance. I also asked Princess Direct (when I was pricing around) and they told me the same..............I went with my own TA however, because the price was better. Other discount agencies found on the web offerred me the same.......... Good Luck! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssantow Posted April 2, 2008 #10 Share Posted April 2, 2008 The free berths you are refering to are called TC's or tour conductor credits. They are based on the number of lower berths sold. you recieve one TC for every eight lower berths sold. The TC does not include non-comissionable fees such as port charges, taxes or fuel suplement charges. The category of cabin you get for the TC is generally based on what the majority of the cabins sold are. If you have 16 lowers sold in 4 baclonies, 2 OV and 2 inside the TC would be a balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimInOhio Posted April 3, 2008 Author #11 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Thank you all for the information. I think I'll be looking for a new TA (or, at least another one with whom I can compare rates). Thanks again. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted April 3, 2008 #12 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Just book them, and see how it falls in place. Don't do this. It needs to be setup in a group. As other said, find an agent who understands groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Rain Posted April 3, 2008 #13 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Do you mean that you had to pay the cruise fare, but it was refunded after your cruise was over? That seems like an odd way to do things, especially with all I've read about Princess having problems refunding money and making adjustments! Yes. I paid for the cruise, and then had one cruise fare refunded shortly after we got home. I beleive they refund my travel agent, and then my travel agent sent me the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottoCruise Posted April 3, 2008 #14 Share Posted April 3, 2008 The free berths you are referring to are called TC's or tour conductor credits. They are based on the number of lower berths sold. you receive one TC for every eight lower berths sold. The TC does not include non-comissionable fees such as port charges, taxes or fuel supplement charges. The category of cabin you get for the TC is generally based on what the majority of the cabins sold are. If you have 16 lowers sold in 4 balconies, 2 OV and 2 inside the TC would be a balcony. I was told that all 16 (lower) berths are added up (less non comissionables) then divided by 16 and the answer is the $$ amount you will be refunded. I have booked 4 Minis, 1 Balc. and 3 Insides......When I do the numbers my 'rebate' comes out to be $$ amount between the Insides and the Balcony fare. However waiting to see what my TA says - :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy604 Posted April 3, 2008 #15 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Yes, get a new TA. Some TAs keep the TC credits to bump up their own comissions, so go with one that lets you use the TC credits, especially if you're the one putting together the group. Depending on the season and timing of the cruise, you can also find ones with better than a 16 to 1 TC ratio as well. Don't forget too that your group accumulates amenity points which can be exchanged for gifts and onboard credits for every cabin. Go with a travel agent who will give all the amenity points to your group and not keep half of them to boost their own commission. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44summertime Posted April 4, 2008 #16 Share Posted April 4, 2008 What are amenity points? I have 17 cabins booked so far with friends and family. TA said we could "split" the free berths (2) between all who are sailing as OBC. Already getting $25pp OBC, Wine and Photo Should I be checking into something different? 3/1/09 CROWN PRINCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbadog Posted April 4, 2008 #17 Share Posted April 4, 2008 ya i agree......lets throw water on the t.a. lol:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy604 Posted April 4, 2008 #18 Share Posted April 4, 2008 What are amenity points? I have 17 cabins booked so far with friends and family. TA said we could "split" the free berths (2) between all who are sailing as OBC. Already getting $25pp OBC, Wine and PhotoShould I be checking into something different? 3/1/09 CROWN PRINCESS Every itinerary has a certain number of amenity points allocated, which can be used for things like wine, photos, cocktail parties, OBCs, cabin upgrades, etc. Some travel agents only allocate a portion of those back to the group and keep some to bump up their comissions. That's not a problem if the agent is putting together the group, but a better agent will recognize that if the travellers are the ones creating the group, they should get all the amenity points. A polite way of asking for this is to say that since you are putting together the group, you'd like the opportunity to look at the amenity menu and select your own bonuses based on what the other in the group would appreciate the most. This lets the agent gracefully cede all the amenity points to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailfish Posted April 4, 2008 #19 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I am leading a group cruise in November aboard the Emerald Princess. I'd be happy to give you more information and answer any questions you might have - feel free to email me. I am not a travel agent, but I can give you a group leader's perspective on my experiences - good and bad. Good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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