Host Dan Posted August 9, 2008 #1 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Does anyone know if Seabourn ever hires American citizens as employees on Seabourn? I'm not talking entertainment staff, but more in the line of service staff. I've seen young folks from all over the world, including Canada, but can't seem to remember a service staff person from the US. My favorite waiter that has worked for a favorite restaurant here would be a PERFECT choice for Seabourn. He is, by far, the best waiter I've ever had. Any thoughts??:confused: :confused: Host Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabourn-nail Posted August 9, 2008 #2 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hi Dan! I think I've only met one once! I think it could have to do with taxes. All the others earn there money tax free, because they work abroad! Have a nice weekend! I enjoy the Olympics to kill time. Marja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogier21 Posted August 9, 2008 #3 Share Posted August 9, 2008 They can always try, but Seabourn hotel office is in Southampton and not in Miami I think. There is some more offices in Europe. They can always apply through the normal channels, but usually they would like to keep Europeans. Try http://www.seabourn.com/Career/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapenarth Posted August 9, 2008 #4 Share Posted August 9, 2008 They can always try, but Seabourn hotel office is in Southampton and not in Miami I think. There is some more offices in Europe. They can always apply through the normal channels, but usually they would like to keep Europeans. Try http://www.seabourn.com/Career/ I thought Seabourn jobs/careers/crew/officers were handled by an outside specialist company who scour many parts of the world and Norway for positions. We are always amazed at the number of South Africans who are stewardesses and waiters. Why ? Also few US, Brits, Spanish or Italiians but lots of East Europeans for the obvious reasons. This is not meant as a criticism but the sensible use of market forces and taking on people who fit in with your customer base. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinMatt Posted August 9, 2008 #5 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I've never seen a male room steward on Seabourn, but on the mass-market lines they are typically all male. Do you think we'll start to see a mix of male and female suite stewardesses with the new ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapenarth Posted August 9, 2008 #6 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Does anyone know if Seabourn ever hires American citizens as employees on Seabourn? I'm not talking entertainment staff, but more in the line of service staff. I've seen young folks from all over the world, including Canada, but can't seem to remember a service staff person from the US. My favorite waiter that has worked for a favorite restaurant here would be a PERFECT choice for Seabourn. He is, by far, the best waiter I've ever had.Any thoughts??:confused: :confused: Host Dan No entertainment personnel from the USA :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogier21 Posted August 9, 2008 #7 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I thought Seabourn jobs/careers/crew/officers were handled by an outside specialist company who scour many parts of the world and Norway for positions. We are always amazed at the number of South Africans who are stewardesses and waiters. Why ? Also few US, Brits, Spanish or Italiians but lots of East Europeans for the obvious reasons. This is not meant as a criticism but the sensible use of market forces and taking on people who fit in with your customer base. :) Officers are recruited by an external organisation and has not much to with Seabourn. There are other agencies that recruit for Seabourn, thats why there are lots of stewardesses from South Africa and sweden, not that many from East Europe. I don't think there is any crewing agency in the US. Reason ofcourse for other companies (like Holland America) to have Philipino and Indonesian crew only is obviously the $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Dan Posted August 9, 2008 Author #8 Share Posted August 9, 2008 No entertainment personnel from the USA :confused: I meant that I knew of entertainment staff from the USA, but not service personel. Sorry if my post was confusing! Host Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margate Cruiser Posted August 9, 2008 #9 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Some crew on the pride were doing there internship from a school from South Africa. I was amazed to hear that. No experience at all. They tried hard very pleasant but knew nothing about how to pour a bottle of wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margate Cruiser Posted August 9, 2008 #10 Share Posted August 9, 2008 There are quite a few entertainers that are American we have been on several cruises with Americans. I think you will find most of the on during the Caribbean cruises. For it's easy for them to come aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseyguy Posted August 9, 2008 #11 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I doubt that Seabourn's "targeted" hiring practices for shipboard jobs would pass muster with U.S. labor and anti-discrimination laws. For example, I can think of no functional reason why men as well as women can't be hired as Room Stewards; I suspect "atmospherics" play a large role in hiring only young women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeabournGirl Posted August 10, 2008 #12 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have heard that Seabourn used to use V Ships for the hiring, but have or will soon take control back inhouse and do the hiring and selection process internally again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogier21 Posted August 10, 2008 #13 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have heard that Seabourn used to use V Ships for the hiring, but have or will soon take control back inhouse and do the hiring and selection process internally again. V-Ships only recruits officers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapenarth Posted August 10, 2008 #14 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I meant that I knew of entertainment staff from the USA, but not service personel. Sorry if my post was confusing! Host Dan Not confusing. I got it wrong. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of the seas Posted August 10, 2008 #15 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I meant that I knew of entertainment staff from the USA, but not service personel. Sorry if my post was confusing! Host Dan Dan, there's enough Americans on board already,it is just fine as it is. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highcbob Posted August 10, 2008 #16 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Some crew on the pride were doing there internship from a school from South Africa. I was amazed to hear that. No experience at all. They tried hard very pleasant but knew nothing about how to pour a bottle of wine. Are you saying that Seabourn, with the high amount of $$$'s their passengers pay in fares, hire inexperinced people even for the front lines in the dining room? Good grief, I hope that is not the norm is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaAna,CA Posted August 11, 2008 #17 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I wonder how Seabourn will choose which crew members will be transferred from the triplets for Odyssey? Do you think many of the crew would want to move over to the new ship? I'm also fascinated with their training....the service is so spectacular, I was wondering how long the training period is and where they are trained. Jane West Coast Jane that is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of the seas Posted August 11, 2008 #18 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Are you saying that Seabourn, with the high amount of $$$'s their passengers pay in fares, hire inexperinced people even for the front lines in the dining room? Good grief, I hope that is not the norm is it! No,I think you are talking about Cunard.I will not sail again with them once the QE2 is gone.The excellent service is missing from all of the new ships.They are also too big and impersonal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highcbob Posted August 11, 2008 #19 Share Posted August 11, 2008 No,I think you are talking about Cunard.I will not sail again with them once the QE2 is gone.The excellent service is missing from all of the new ships.They are also too big and impersonal Appears 'Margate Cruiser' above does specify it was on the 'Pride' and not Cunard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of the seas Posted August 11, 2008 #20 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Appears 'Margate Cruiser' above does specify it was on the 'Pride' and not Cunard. Not seen this on Seabourn,but I was pointing out what happens with Cunard alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb707 Posted August 11, 2008 #21 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Appears 'Margate Cruiser' above does specify it was on the 'Pride' and not Cunard. Hi I was on the Pride 3 weeks ago and the service was superb definately no non-experienced crew on board, I have never experienced it on Seabourn deb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapenarth Posted August 11, 2008 #22 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Some crew on the pride were doing there internship from a school from South Africa. I was amazed to hear that. No experience at all. They tried hard very pleasant but knew nothing about how to pour a bottle of wine. Can`t understand why Seabourn would let a load of amateurs loose on a ship. :confused: :confused: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highcbob Posted August 11, 2008 #23 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hi I was on the Pride 3 weeks ago and the service was superb definately no non-experienced crew on board, I have never experienced it on Seabourn deb Thanks Deb, phew! that's good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogier21 Posted August 11, 2008 #24 Share Posted August 11, 2008 To give a little insight, at the moment crew is being trained, onboard, to work on the new ships. All ships, including the triplets, will get special training rooms where new and old crew will be trained to be even better in their line of duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daneite Posted August 12, 2008 #25 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hi I was on the Pride 3 weeks ago and the service was superb definately no non-experienced crew on board, I have never experienced it on Seabourn deb Hi Deb, When we were on Pride at the end of July there were definitely unexperienced crew onboard, we had one as our second waiter, he was great but was learning on the job and admitted to it, he gave us a few laughs with his mistakes, we were after there to have a good time!!! And we did!! We were told by a senior member of staff that they had extra crew onboard as they were being trained for the new ship, which overall gave a great service! We thought the Pride this time was much improved in every respect from when we sailed her before. Kathryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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