Tipping question.......

[calicruise74]

Should you tip the same based on a child in your cabin ? ie based on the auto tipping scale ?

 

In a word....Absolutely. Children make just as much mess in the dining room and cabin as adults. Not to mention, stewards will usually bring the child a smiley face cookie in your cabin one night at turndown and the dining staff will help with crayons, etc. Also, the Camp Carnival staff are not included in the $10/pp/pday so please remember them if you use their services.

[cantw82sail]

One simple reason is that they are guaranteed to make a certain amount. If a worker [or a large number of workers] advise pax to remove the auto-tip and tip in cash, then the line has no way to know their guarantee has been met. The requiring of a tip turn in when auto-tips are removed is a disincentive for the workers to request cash tips.

Another is the line doesn't want the workers talking to the pax about money.

Another is basic fiscal security, if an employee handles a customers money, the company should know about it.

Another is the lines want the auto-tip program to be successful.

 

There could be a dozen more reasons.

 

Dan

 

One of those possible reasons: Crew members theiving cash from other crew. My guess is they share quarters and might not have the most secure place to keep/deposit large sums of cash. Auto/Prepaid Tips can be paid by check to the crewmember to be deposited or sent home to the family.

[steveaaaaa]

One simple reason is that they are guaranteed to make a certain amount.

 

Where did you get that info?

Thanks

Steve

[dan40]

Where did you get that info?

Thanks

Steve

 

 

SEARCH the Net'. Its there.

 

Dan

[mom2tcdx2]

On my first cruise where I took my kids I had wondered on the tip for them also. However I chose to make sure they ate in the dining room etc as opposed to the buffet. The waiters did really well making sure they had sodas, etc. The room steward went out of his way with out room I think - my daughter was so tickled he had her stuffed animals all set up, her blanket nicely folded, pajamas under the pillow. She was extremely happy and excited over the way her bed was done each evening.

 

I could see someone though adjusting the auto tips up if they didn't carry a lot of cash etc. On my first cruise I had the tips prepaid, and had not been to any message boards, (didn't even know about them). I felt a little akward about not having a lot of cash on me - I had remembered reading all the cashless comments about cruising so I basically took a small amount of cash and the rest was credit cards. Now I know better so I do take more cash (smaller bills).

[Ken076]

You CAN go to the purser and ask that your tip allocations be reduced for the Dining Room and increased accordingly for the Buffet staff. This is easier than holding cash and tracking down servers, and doesn't get you the notariety of one who removed tips and might be screwing the crew. I don't believe it's necessarily true that the Dining staff and Buffet staff are the same (certainly not at dinner) - the dining staff also works Lunch and Breakfast in the Dining Room. ken

[momofzeke]

I don't believe it's necessarily true that the Dining staff and Buffet staff are the same (certainly not at dinner) - the dining staff also works Lunch and Breakfast in the Dining Room. ken

 

Yes, they are sometimes the same. On our Miracle cruise, both our head waiter and assistant waiter that served us dinner in the dining room worked in the Lido Buffet every morning for breakfast. We talked to them each morning.

 

On our Valor cruise, we saw our waiter from dinner and another waiter that we saw each evening in the dining room working during lunch in the Lido buffet several days.

 

Some of the dining staff work the dining room at breakfast and lunch, but others work the buffet area. So, whether you eat in the dining room for dinner or not, those waiters are working for you at some point.

[VentureMan_2000]

Not so sure why anyone would want to make such a big effort to worry so much about managing TIPs so closely... it's a vacation.

 

The last thing anyone should want to be doing is standing in line at the purser's desk to tweek Carnival's TIPing allocations because you only spend 4 nights in the dining room, 3 in the buffet... but skipped lunch twice, so there's another allocation adjustment... :cool:

 

The only think anyone should be worried about is...

 

1) How they are going to sneak booze on board with it breaking or being confiscated...

 

2) When their next cocktail is coming...

 

3) When they will hit the next big payoff in the casino...

 

4) How excited they are about their excursions they booked...

 

5) The time they will have to relax around the pool on the Lido deck...

 

6) How much food there is to consume and how they are going to make

room for it...

 

7) What shows or on-board entertainment you will be attending...

 

8) Whether you can get away with sneaking into Formal dining wearing cut-oof jeans and a t-shirt...

 

9) How you are going to get your two cases of island booze and Cuban cigars past customs...

 

10) Boinking on the Balcony... ( My favorite... :D )

[steveaaaaa]

SEARCH the Net'. Its there.

 

Dan

 

I can't find anything that talks about a guarantee.

Can you provide the link where you got your info from.

Thanks

Steve

[dan40]

I can't find anything that talks about a guarantee.

Can you provide the link where you got your info from.

Thanks

Steve

 

 

Try harder!

 

Dan

[lilnan]

On my cruise, I went directly to the purser's desk and took the auto tip off on my mother-in-law's directions. Her intention was that we would give only those employees that she deemed necessary a lesser amount at the end of the cruise. I am not sure this is the reason, but my husband and I ended up feeling that the entire staff went above and beyond their jobs, especialy our room steward. We ended up putting the $70 back on and giving the steward an additional tip on the last day. We also filled out our comment card with high praises for our steward.

[steveaaaaa]

Try harder!

 

Dan

 

 

I found it.

I went to www.I-can't-back-it-up.com and it was there.:)

Steve

[VentureMan_2000]

Try harder!

 

Dan

 

 

 

:D ............................. :D

[dan40]

I found it.

I went to www.I-can't-back-it-up.com and it was there.:)

Steve

 

 

The subject is unaffected by your inability to do rudimentary research. The subject is there, has been there and probably will remain. The fact that you are unable to find it only reflects on your research, not on the subject.

If I told you where/how to find it, what would you learn. When you find it through your own efforts you can take pride in your accomplishment.:cool:

 

Dan

[Kurbanfan]

I found it.

I went to www.I-can't-back-it-up.com and it was there.:)

Steve

 

 

 

:D :D :D right next to www.none-of-our-business-anyway.com:D :D

[calicruise74]

Not so sure why anyone would want to make such a big effort to worry so much about managing TIPs so closely... it's a vacation.

 

The last thing anyone should want to be doing is standing in line at the purser's desk to tweek Carnival's TIPing allocations because you only spend 4 nights in the dining room, 3 in the buffet... but skipped lunch twice, so there's another allocation adjustment... :cool:

 

The only think anyone should be worried about is...

 

1) How they are going to sneak booze on board with it breaking or being confiscated...

 

2) When their next cocktail is coming...

 

3) When they will hit the next big payoff in the casino...

 

4) How excited they are about their excursions they booked...

 

5) The time they will have to relax around the pool on the Lido deck...

 

6) How much food there is to consume and how they are going to make

room for it...

 

7) What shows or on-board entertainment you will be attending...

 

8) Whether you can get away with sneaking into Formal dining wearing cut-oof jeans and a t-shirt...

 

9) How you are going to get your two cases of island booze and Cuban cigars past customs...

 

10) Boinking on the Balcony... ( My favorite... :D )

 

 

AMEN!!!! :D

If I want to balance the books, I'll stay at home!

[steveaaaaa]

The subject is unaffected by your inability to do rudimentary research. The subject is there, has been there and probably will remain. The fact that you are unable to find it only reflects on your research, not on the subject.

If I told you where/how to find it, what would you learn. When you find it through your own efforts you can take pride in your accomplishment.:cool:

 

Dan

 

If you told me where to find it,I would learn that the tipped crew are "guaranteed to make a certian amount" as you stated.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=16472997&postcount=50

 

I will admit I did limit my search parameters.

I limited it to Carnival cruiselines

I limited it to Room Stewards and Waiters.

 

I also limited it to only facts and did not include any fiction which is why I probably did not find it in my rudimentary search.:)

 

Steve

[bplazo]

I do not think that you should be allowed to adjust the tip unless you have a major problem. As someone else also stated there are alot of cheap people who expect alot of service and do not want to pay for it.

[steveaaaaa]

I do not think that you should be allowed to adjust the tip unless you have a major problem. As someone else also stated there are alot of cheap people who expect alot of service and do not want to pay for it.

 

Then it is not a tip.

Steve

[bplazo]

Call it whatever you want just pay it.

[Aurori]

Call it whatever you want just pay it.

Steve is correct. If you carnival called it "Onboard service fee" and included it into the cost of the ticket, this thread wouldnt exist. They are called tips because thats what they are. I treat them just as I would tips at home. If the service team does a crap job, I dont care what they make per hour/week, their tips will reflect it. If they do a wonderful job, their tips will reflect that also.

[luvmygirlz]

DAN40

 

It is too bad you cannot just answer a question without being so judgemental. True this is a message board, but it is people like you who make judgemental responses to people that keep people away from these boards.

 

Again, I asked a simple question. I am very new to cruising and still learning. Not that it would make a difference to you, but I have survived on tips before and had a single mother who raised 3 kids on tips. So I DO know how much people depend on tips and would never deny anyone of this.

[dan40]

If you told me where to find it,I would learn that the tipped crew are "guaranteed to make a certian amount" as you stated.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=16472997&postcount=50

 

I will admit I did limit my search parameters.

I limited it to Carnival cruiselines

I limited it to Room Stewards and Waiters.

 

I also limited it to only facts and did not include any fiction which is why I probably did not find it in my rudimentary search.:)

 

Steve

 

Glad you admit you did not try or tried in a less than half hearted manner. But your lack of effort does not make a wage guarantee a fiction, it only says you do not want to try.

The "FICTION" in our tip discussions is that YOU say Carnival charges a fee for collecting the tips. This is a figment of your imagination, but you sing it like it was Gospel. And you have not a shred of evidence that it is true. And if it was true, SO WHAT! Its still not an excuse to remove the auto-tip. Poor service is, and that is the only reason.

You are anti auto-tip and PRO service charge. That is a nonsensical position. Against auto-tips because you IMAGINE they charge the workers a fee. Do you somehow believe that if it was a service charge, they would NOT charge a fee? Illogical from ANY aspect.

And I'm not saying that Carnival does not charge the workers something because I do not KNOW, same as you do not KNOW. But I do not care because the workers for the most part, MUST, get the money home. Free, they can send actual cash in an envelope. Not smart, but they could do it. ALL OTHER METHODS of transmitting funds WILL occur some type of a fee.

If you like fiction, here is the "fiction" my imagination conjures up.

"ALL early auto-tip removals are done solely with the intent to cheat and stiff the workers."

 

Non-fiction is, its only $10.pppd and its a vacation.

 

Dan

[trock]

Glad you admit you did not try or tried in a less than half hearted manner. But your lack of effort does not make a wage guarantee a fiction, it only says you do not want to try.

The "FICTION" in our tip discussions is that YOU say Carnival charges a fee for collecting the tips. This is a figment of your imagination, but you sing it like it was Gospel. And you have not a shred of evidence that it is true. And if it was true, SO WHAT! Its still not an excuse to remove the auto-tip. Poor service is, and that is the only reason.

You are anti auto-tip and PRO service charge. That is a nonsensical position. Against auto-tips because you IMAGINE they charge the workers a fee. Do you somehow believe that if it was a service charge, they would NOT charge a fee? Illogical from ANY aspect.

And I'm not saying that Carnival does not charge the workers something because I do not KNOW, same as you do not KNOW. But I do not care because the workers for the most part, MUST, get the money home. Free, they can send actual cash in an envelope. Not smart, but they could do it. ALL OTHER METHODS of transmitting funds WILL occur some type of a fee.

If you like fiction, here is the "fiction" my imagination conjures up.

"ALL early auto-tip removals are done solely with the intent to cheat and stiff the workers."

 

Non-fiction is, its only $10.pppd and its a vacation.

 

Dan

 

 

Simply put, they must use some sort of direct deposit system.. Removing the tips only causes undue stress to the employees as they have to answer to their supervisors...

[Kurbanfan]

Steve is correct. If you carnival called it "Onboard service fee" and included it into the cost of the ticket, this thread wouldnt exist. They are called tips because thats what they are. I treat them just as I would tips at home. If the service team does a crap job, I dont care what they make per hour/week, their tips will reflect it. If they do a wonderful job, their tips will reflect that also.

 

Correct. And as long as they are tips and not a service charge, everyone has the option to adjust them as they see fit. It does not matter how the company handles them internally. That is none of our business nor should it be..........

The op asked if they could remove them and pay them personally, and as of now the way it is set up.......yes you can.....

 

Not sure why a simple question can turn into something more then it's not:rolleyes: