Kurbanfan Posted February 5, 2009 #151 Share Posted February 5, 2009 lmao - do they make little plastic bags for smuggling dogs? Dog-runners maybe? :confused: roflmao!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisecastle Posted February 5, 2009 #152 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Crying:confused: Helpless:confused:Care to elaborate:confused: You're always whining about everything. Everything is Carnivals fault blah blah blah. If you hate the company so much don't cruise with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeBrew Posted February 5, 2009 #153 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have a ? If someone is allowed to bring a (quote)service animal onboard , do they have to pay 2nd or 3rd person rates . I have nothing against them onboard personaly , unless I step in crap . Then someone might be short an animal . ;) A child is charged a rate , I think an animal should be charged as well , JMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted February 5, 2009 #154 Share Posted February 5, 2009 You're always whining about everything. Everything is Carnivals fault blah blah blah. If you hate the company so much don't cruise with them. LMAO!!! I hate carnival sooo much, that's why I'm platinum:rolleyes: BTW what the hell are you smoking:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeBrew Posted February 5, 2009 #155 Share Posted February 5, 2009 LMAO!!! I hate carnival sooo much, that's why I'm platinum:rolleyes: BTW what the hell are you smoking:confused: Time for a group hug :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted February 5, 2009 #156 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Time for a group hug :p I'd rather hug a rabid dog:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted February 5, 2009 #157 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'd rather hug a rabid dog:D Coming dear!!! :D (Well they don't call me "The BullDog" for nothing :D:D:D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenerin Posted February 5, 2009 #158 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have a ? If someone is allowed to bring a (quote)service animal onboard , do they have to pay 2nd or 3rd person rates . I have nothing against them onboard personaly , unless I step in crap . Then someone might be short an animal . ;) A child is charged a rate , I think an animal should be charged as well , JMO . It would be ridiculous to charge someone who GENUINELY needs a service dog for bringing one. Obviously if it was a CHOICE to bring an animal(aka a pet if it's a choice), being charged extra makes sense, but IMO a service dog is a necessity to some of the people that have them...it's not something they can just leave behind for the hell of it. Bringing your child on a cruise is a choice. So that's not really a valid comparison to a service animal. That's basically saying a blind person should have to pay more for a cruise because they have a seeing eye dog.....and again, IMO, that's not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted February 5, 2009 #159 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Coming dear!!! :D (Well they don't call me "The BullDog"for nothing :D:D:D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcraig Posted February 5, 2009 #160 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Never. A certified service dog would never pee in the wrong place. They can and will hold it. They are highly trained and know when and where to 'go' Maybe the dog was blind too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrown Posted February 5, 2009 #161 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I was diagnosed with bipolar 2, severe anxiety,post traumatic stress, and severe depression. My doctor advised me to get my rock certified as a service dog in case's where I felt I needed the support. She was a rottie, she was certified and no she didn't wear a working vest but we kept the paperwork with us. I didn't bring her on the cruise with us she stayed with her "grandma and grandpa" which spoiled her rotten. It was her vacation as well. Yes I missed her but I didn't think it was fair to have to answer to why there was a rottie on board and why. The answering the "why's" were just about as stressful. She did go through training to look for panic attacks and let me tell you she was awesome at picking them out. We had to put her down last April and my heart breaks daily. I am looking for a rottie puppy to have trained again for the same thing but again they won't go on cruise's with us because I don't feel I need one on a cruise my hubby is there and he too is trained very well to pick up on those darn panic attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieCruisie Posted February 5, 2009 #162 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have seen several dogs on board on all of my cruises. Fortunately, they turned into hotties after a few beers. :D :cool: LMAO! That came outta nowhere! Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DqALEX Posted February 5, 2009 #163 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have seen several dogs on board on all of my cruises. Fortunately, they turned into hotties after a few beers. :D :cool: I saw the same on the Inspiration last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisecastle Posted February 5, 2009 #164 Share Posted February 5, 2009 LMAO!!! I hate carnival sooo much, that's why I'm platinum:rolleyes: BTW what the hell are you smoking:confused: Then don't come here ripping Carnival everyday and supporting all the lying whiners that come here with their tales blaming Carnival for everything and taking no responsibility for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinmom38 Posted February 5, 2009 #165 Share Posted February 5, 2009 as someone who trains service dogs for their first year ( see my avatar)... the first and most difficult thing we teach is to releive on command... my dogs are taught starting at 6 weeks of age, that they can only "go" when I tell them it is time to go. so that "accidents" like that don't happen. My guess is that the dogs are like the OP said, and are "emotional support" dogs, which in MHO give real service dogs a bad name. My mothers husband is a psychologist and said that just about anyone can request the need for an emotional support dog, and they do not require any professional training like the service dogs trained for the blind, like mine.. etc. they are mere "pets" that get to go everywhere. they are not certified as a service dog, not trained as a service dog... they just make the owner feel more comfortable. IMHO, if they do not possess certification, they should not be allowed. Just my thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted February 5, 2009 #166 Share Posted February 5, 2009 as someone who trains service dogs for their first year ( see my avatar)... the first and most difficult thing we teach is to releive on command... my dogs are taught starting at 6 weeks of age, that they can only "go" when I tell them it is time to go. so that "accidents" like that don't happen. My guess is that the dogs are like the OP said, and are "emotional support" dogs, which in MHO give real service dogs a bad name. My mothers husband is a psychologist and said that just about anyone can request the need for an emotional support dog, and they do not require any professional training like the service dogs trained for the blind, like mine.. etc. they are mere "pets" that get to go everywhere. they are not certified as a service dog, not trained as a service dog... they just make the owner feel more comfortable. IMHO, if they do not possess certification, they should not be allowed. Just my thoughts... Hey, where are you training in Virginia? I trained for a year in Hampton Roads back in the early 90's. I agree with you fully on the differences between a sewrvice dog and an emotional support dog and I agree with your thoughts...just a thought...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstoncruisers2001 Posted February 5, 2009 #167 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Maybe the dog was blind too? Well, then the dog needs a monkey.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted February 5, 2009 #168 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Then don't come here ripping Carnival everyday and supporting all the lying whiners that come here with their tales blaming Carnival for everything and taking no responsibility for themselves Ripping Carnival:confused: You are hilarious!!! How about every now and then you come out of your naive little shell of a world you live in and say something nice:p:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinmom38 Posted February 5, 2009 #169 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hey, where are you training in Virginia? I trained for a year in Hampton Roads back in the early 90's. I agree with you fully on the differences between a sewrvice dog and an emotional support dog and I agree with your thoughts...just a thought...:D hi bulldog !! I live outside of Lynchburg, .. I train for the Guide Dog Foundation in New York... have been involved for about 3 years.. great work, isn't it? to see the finished product, leading the way for his / her new owner? It takes my breath away.. to know that you were involved in something like that.. to make that much of a difference for someone who you don't know and may not ever meet ?? it is a satisfying feeling... though I must say that it is sooo difficult to part with the dog after so much time together... I say.. " not again !!!!"... but then do it all over again !! very rewarding... thanks for the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike1964 Posted February 5, 2009 #170 Share Posted February 5, 2009 "Who let the dogs out"? Who, Who, WhoWho!!:D "Who let the dogs out"? Who, Who, WhoWho!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy jones Posted February 5, 2009 #171 Share Posted February 5, 2009 My family also raises puppies that will be trained as guide dogs for the blind. They are raised, trained, and socialized from the age of 7 weeks until 18 months before entering formal guide dog training for 4 to 6 months. After that, they spend an additional 4 to 6 weeks in training with the blind person that they will guide. The training of these dogs and their owners is first rate and the working dog will lie quietly under the table while their master dines. No one should be concerned about a legitimate guide dog, which is easily identifiable. IMHO, no legitimate service dog of any type would be carried around a public place. The dog that the OP observed is not a service dog. It is a dog belonging to a person who is scamming the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellywhitehills Posted February 5, 2009 #172 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Then don't come here ripping Carnival everyday and supporting all the lying whiners that come here with their tales blaming Carnival for everything and taking no responsibility for themselves HUMMMMM....maybe people should go over to the RCCI board and read your posts on Freedom of the Seas...:rolleyes: My mama says..If you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted February 5, 2009 #173 Share Posted February 5, 2009 hi bulldog !! I live outside of Lynchburg, .. I train for the Guide Dog Foundation in New York... have been involved for about 3 years.. great work, isn't it? to see the finished product, leading the way for his / her new owner? It takes my breath away.. to know that you were involved in something like that.. to make that much of a difference for someone who you don't know and may not ever meet ?? it is a satisfying feeling... though I must say that it is sooo difficult to part with the dog after so much time together... I say.. " not again !!!!"... but then do it all over again !! very rewarding... thanks for the comments. Yes, it is a great feeling to know you are making a huge difference in someone's life! I volunteered for training service dogs for Canine Companions for Independence, I could only do it for a year for several reasons...the biggest of which was I was on active duty and had to transfer...and the sad sad fact that I grew so attached to my animals it broke my heart to have to give them away...:(...still, it was one of the most rewarding experiences in my life. :D P.S.- the hardest one I had to train was an Alaskan Malamute puppy named "Sire"...he was trained to be a hearing dog for a deaf person...it was a gratifying experience to see him when he was put through his paces and passed the inital training test with flying colors!! Then I had to turn him over for the formal training...(don't tell anybody but I cried like a baby when I turned him over ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan555 Posted February 5, 2009 #174 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I can see your point, but on the other hand who wants an animal peeing and crapping all over the decks? No way that is being cleaned up and sanitized every time.People bring babies/toddlers on these cruises that crawl on the decks. I just think there are major health issues here. This is probably not a popular opinion, but I am not sure any service animal belongs on a cruise ship unless they have a sanitary solution to deal with the dogs' elimination. I would dare say infants and toddlers on cruise ships pose a much greater "health issue" to the other cruise guests than any service animal ever has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew B Posted February 5, 2009 #175 Share Posted February 5, 2009 IMHO, if they do not possess certification, they should not be allowed. Just my thoughts... Well, perhaps when you become Chairman of the Board of Carnival corporation, you will get to make such decisions. ;) Meanwhile, if Carnival says they meet the criteria and are allowed, that is all any of us need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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