reserving of seats

[aloha43]

Suite passengers do get more for what they pay. They get a SUITE. :D

 

AND all of the perks that come with it. That doesn't mean that it should be confined to the room.

 

If I didn't get the perks that go along with the suite, I wouldn't get one. It is part of the allure. :)

[tahqa]

AND all of the perks that come with it. That doesn't mean that it should be confined to the room.

 

If I didn't get the perks that go along with the suite, I wouldn't get one. It is part of the allure. :)

And the Oasis, and the Freedom, and the Liberty...... :D:D:D

[vboxer]

At the expense of other passengers? I think it stinks. If you want your special benefits it should be given to you in the privacy of your cabin, i.e., champaign, free specialty restaurant dining, insuite dining, etc. ...

 

I'm sorry. I don't agree with you.

If I pay less I get less.

If I pay more I get more.

That's all, for me.

[MAZANDSTEVE]

Yes but we all expect to get a seat, so if there is non available, then the reserved ones should be opened up to everyone.

[vboxer]

Yes but we all expect to get a seat, so if there is non available, then the reserved ones should be opened up to everyone.

 

I don't agree.

I think that the reserved ones should be kept free in case one suite guest arrive, when he decide to arrive.

All the other guests have to act as those reserved seats don't exist at all.

Only in this way the suite guests can find ALWAYS free seats, and this is correct, because they have payed MORE.

[MAZANDSTEVE]

I don't agree.

I think that the reserved ones should be kept free in case one suite guest arrive, when he decide to arrive.

All the other guests have to act as those reserved seats don't exist at all.

Only in this way the suite guests can find ALWAYS free seats, and this is correct, because they have payed MORE.

 

 

But I have paid for the cruise which should mean I get a seat too where ever it is.

[Retired LEO]

But I have paid for the cruise which should mean I get a seat too where ever it is.

 

I have never seen a problem with chairs on any ship. Just go 1 deck up and there are more chairs than you need.

[MAZANDSTEVE]

I have never seen a problem with chairs on any ship. Just go 1 deck up and there are more chairs than you need.

 

 

Well as long as there is ;) or I will be coming to pinch yours :D

[vboxer]

But I have paid for the cruise which should mean I get a seat too where ever it is.

 

No.

Everyone knows that on the ship there are many more passengers than pool chairs (or ice show seats).

So, you can find a free chair only if you arrive before others, or if you wait until a passenger goes away.

When you book the cruise, and pay for it, nobody told you that you can always find a free seat.

Please note: I'm never been in a suite, because I can't spend so much money.

[Toddcan]

vboxer (and others)...

 

1. Do you understand that this is a new perk for the suite guests?
   
2. Do you understand that this perk specifically takes things away from the non-suite guests that they used to have?
   

If your answer is yes, then I assume you feel it's ok to take things away from some guests, and give it to other guests who pay more, correct?

 

Suite guests have always paid more. No one is arguing that. But, now.. they get even more than they used to. I don't have a problem with that, except it comes at the expense of the non-suite guest.

 

If you understand all of that, and still see that as acceptable, then THAT is the point where we differ. I just want to make sure you understand this perspective.

 

So... induldge me further. Just give me your opinions on the following what-if situations. The question is: Would it bother you if suite guests were offered the following as new perks (yes, or no)

 

1. The late seating in the MDR is reserved for suite guests only.
   
2. Casino is reserved for suite guests only on Tuesday from 7pm-10pm.
   
3. Window Seats in the WJ are now reserved only for suite guests.
   

[babies12]

I'm sorry. I don't agree with you.

If I pay less I get less.

If I pay more I get more.

That's all, for me.

 

Don't agree. All public spaces (roped off sections) on the ship should be utilized by EVERYONE regardless of how much they paid.

[jackinlux]

I understand how some complain, but we stay in an owner's suite everytime we cruise. I for one am really looking forwards to our trip on the indy, and i'm very happy that they plan to reserve our seats by the pool! We have always had to walk around the ship over and over looking for a seat.this is one perk i can't wait to use. Eileen

[Kittycatwlv]

Exactly, it's not about giving them a perk for the extra money they paid. I don't think anyone can complain about that. It's the fact that they are taking something away from everyone to do it that is wrong. I don't see why more people don't understand that, but at least some are.

 

In a plane they took away leg room from coach for first class. It's all about money, pay more for a cabin with a view, a balcony etc.... you buy upgrades and suite guests did that.

[aloha43]

Don't agree. All public spaces (roped off sections) on the ship should be utilized by EVERYONE regardless of how much they paid.

 

I don't agree either.

 

If it said in the RCL rules that ALL public spaces on the ship should be utilized by everyone regardless of how much they paid, then your point would be taken. But their rules state otherwise.

 

I see your example as a form of jealousy......if I can't have it, or see you get it, and I can't have it, then you shouldn't get it either. It sounds very childish.

 

If you want it, book a suite. It's that simple. Pay more, get more. Pay less, get less.

[babies12]

I don't agree either.

 

If it said in the RCL rules that ALL public spaces on the ship should be utilized by everyone regardless of how much they paid, then your point would be taken. But their rules state otherwise.

 

I see your example as a form of jealousy......if I can't have it, or see you get it, and I can't have it, then you shouldn't get it either. It sounds very childish.

 

If you want it, book a suite. It's that simple. Pay more, get more. Pay less, get less.

 

Get over yourself, I'm not jealous. I just don't agree, simple as that. As I stated in an earlier post, I could afford a suite, but choose not to as I would rather spend my money on other things than flaunting my status as some feel the need to do.

[spareparts]

vboxer (and others)...

 

1. Do you understand that this is a new perk for the suite guests?
   
2. Do you understand that this perk specifically takes things away from the non-suite guests that they used to have?
   

 

??? What, you had your own chair, and now they've taken that away? I fail to see how 24 less chairs is taking anything away from you or how it diminishes your cruise experience one bit.

 

It's this entitlement mentality that I don't get. It's like kids in a playpen, I don't want those toys, I want the one HE has!

[aloha43]

Get over yourself, I'm not jealous. I just don't agree, simple as that. As I stated in an earlier post, I could afford a suite, but choose not to as I would rather spend my money on other things than flaunting my status as some feel the need to do.

 

 

You said it.....you choose not to so you can spend money on other things. I chose to, so I can spend my money on my perks. So why complain? :confused:

 

I am in NO way trying to flaunt status. I take more than 2 years to save money to stay in a suite, and it is really hard to take it when people try to make me feel guilty for using the perks offered to me, when I paid more to get them.

 

I will enjoy my perks....and I will definitely use the pool seats.

 

Even if I look like a human on display. For anyone who doesn't like it, it doesn't matter to me....I don't know them, and I don't care what they think. I will be there to enjoy MY extremely expensive cruise, and no one will get in the way of that. :D

[Retired LEO]

Get over yourself, I'm not jealous. I just don't agree, simple as that. As I stated in an earlier post, I could afford a suite, but choose not to as I would rather spend my money on other things than flaunting my status as some feel the need to do.

 

You just said it. It's your choice. Why complain about what others receive?

[marcoigna]

i suppose some posters would not like that the suite passengers get a special colour coded card - hmmmmm - lets see how this flies amongst us.

 

i am paying 3800 usd for a 1 week owner suite cruise, other guests are paying 699.00 for an inside cabin - lets see thats 6202.00 usd difference per couple - and whatever rci or any other cruise line gives me, its up to me if i take advantage of this....

 

also, the chairs at the pool for suite passengers are at about 50% of the occupancy of the suite passengers onboard....how much space are u talking on a 130,000 ton ship (how my square feet!!!).....

 

i personally luv the idea, and yes i like the sun, and the enjoyment of the main pool area - and if i have friends onboard, i may or may not use this space as were are not glued to the hips when we travel together......we meet each other throughout the day......

 

sorry to say - but the only thing the perks do is the encourage people to pay the the high price suites so that it balances off with the passengers paying 45.00 per day for room and board - ....

[DEIx15x8]

vboxer (and others)...

 

1. Do you understand that this is a new perk for the suite guests?
   
2. Do you understand that this perk specifically takes things away from the non-suite guests that they used to have?
   

If your answer is yes, then I assume you feel it's ok to take things away from some guests, and give it to other guests who pay more, correct?

 

Suite guests have always paid more. No one is arguing that. But, now.. they get even more than they used to. I don't have a problem with that, except it comes at the expense of the non-suite guest.

 

If you understand all of that, and still see that as acceptable, then THAT is the point where we differ. I just want to make sure you understand this perspective.

 

So... induldge me further. Just give me your opinions on the following what-if situations. The question is: Would it bother you if suite guests were offered the following as new perks (yes, or no)

 

1. The late seating in the MDR is reserved for suite guests only.
   
2. Casino is reserved for suite guests only on Tuesday from 7pm-10pm.
   
3. Window Seats in the WJ are now reserved only for suite guests.
   

 

Bravo! On every cruise I've been on (except Disney, no upper balcony) right after we finish early dinner we have headed straight to the theater for the show. Often times we get there before the other show even ends and have to wait outside until the theater empties out. We then get the seats in the front center of the balcony. They aren't even that popular surprisingly because there is a bar that most people have trouble seeing around (Nordic Empress used glass, it was much better) so the rest of the row usually fills fast on the first night or two and then doesn't fill until the theater starts getting crowded. Then 5 minutes before the show starts once everything is full you see the people coming in at the last minute looking for seats. Now those people that show up last minute are the ones that are going to get the good seats while the people that show up an hour+ ahead of time don't.

 

The theater is a public space that is shared by everyone, so segregating it is much different than a perk in your room or a special club that is separate from the rest.

 

If RCCL wants to segregate things we should build a list to help them out:

1. The late seating in the MDR is reserved for suite guests only.
   
2. Casino is reserved for suite guests only on Tuesday from 7pm-10pm.
   
3. Window Seats in the WJ are now reserved only for suite guests.
   
4. All stools along bars for suite guests only, other guests use tables.
   
5. Right side of Windjammer buffet line is suite only, why should they have to wait in line.
   
6. Lounges in the Viking Crown are for Crown Loft suite guests only.
   
7. Inside tables at Johnny Rockets are for suite guests only.
   

 

Feel free to add to the list. I still remember all the people that complained about the chocolates being taken away and given to the suite guests. Well this is a continuation of that. I personally never liked those chocolates and always gave mine to my mom but the Theater change really irritates me as it directly affects the main thing I look foreword to onboard. Without this I may have to go to another line that doesn't segregate yet, does Celebrity?

[babies12]

You just said it. It's your choice. Why complain about what others receive?

 

Your title name says it all, so no point in trying to justify my reasons as to why I'm opposed to roping off sections of public space, nuff said on this matter.

[Toddcan]

??? What, you had your own chair, and now they've taken that away? I fail to see how 24 less chairs is taking anything away from you or how it diminishes your cruise experience one bit.

 

It's this entitlement mentality that I don't get. It's like kids in a playpen, I don't want those toys, I want the one HE has!

 

Let's try and keep the conversation above name calling and insults please. Your kids in a playpen comment was not only inaccurate, it was rude.

 

Let me answer your questions.

Have they taken that away? A: Yes. They removed those 24 seats from the ones I used to be able to choose from. On a sea day, that's prime real estate. See, I used to have that choice. If you call just wanting what I used to have entitlement, then fine.

 

Implied question: Does this diminish my cruise experience: A: Not very much at all. It's just enough of an issue to at least express my concern.

 

Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm still going to love my cruise.

[deedon]

:confused: You keep saying you've paid "more overall, over the years". If you had, you'd be in suites AND have the perks. The portion of your trip costs for long distance airfare does not go to RC. Stop complaining. You do have a choice.

 

i suppose some posters would not like that the suite passengers get a special colour coded card - hmmmmm - lets see how this flies amongst us.

 

i am paying 3800 usd for a 1 week owner suite cruise, other guests are paying 699.00 for an inside cabin - lets see thats 6202.00 usd difference per couple - and whatever rci or any other cruise line gives me, its up to me if i take advantage of this....

 

also, the chairs at the pool for suite passengers are at about 50% of the occupancy of the suite passengers onboard....how much space are u talking on a 130,000 ton ship (how my square feet!!!).....

 

i personally luv the idea, and yes i like the sun, and the enjoyment of the main pool area - and if i have friends onboard, i may or may not use this space as were are not glued to the hips when we travel together......we meet each other throughout the day......

 

sorry to say - but the only thing the perks do is the encourage people to pay the the high price suites so that it balances off with the passengers paying 45.00 per day for room and board - ....

 

that proves my point, on my recent cruise i paid around £2000 ( app $3500) pp for a z class, that was discounted due to late booking, that is about average we have to pay for our cruise, including travel (and RCI do get a cut of that). if people want a chair by the pool or thatre go early or take your chances. RCI needs to clarify reserving of seats or no reserving of seats and the rule should apply to all. I am not jealous nor am i complaining, as someone accused me of, i am simply expressing my opinion and joining in a debate, like most people do on these boards, i dont ask others to agree nor do i have to agree with them

[chriskwarren]

You just said it. It's your choice. Why complain about what others receive?

 

So I take it you have no problem if you were to fly coach, and have someone from first class come and take your seat in coach and you could not have theirs?

 

I have no problems with roping-off the suite section. Just make the suite folks use that section. Is that not fair?

[bajathree]

Let me just say this.....I sailed Indy back in April ....Owners Suite passengers paid over $10k/cabin for that sailing.... One month before the sailing many "regular" cabins were still open and they dropped prices across the board to $899/pp for balconies and $699/pp for interiors. You don't think that those that paid 10K weren't entitled to some extra perks when others jumped the same sailing for under $1500/cabin:confused:there better be some suite perks available or they will have people jumping out of those cabins quicker than you can imagine.......Wake up and smell the coffee....it's those high price suites that make the profit for the cruise lines and with tuff times the cruise lines are doing what they have to do to keep those people from "jumping ship".

 

Look at it this way....if you didn't have those people paying those high prices making up for a lot of the profit of that sailing, the cruise lines wouldn't be able to afford to drop prices on other cabins like they do....so in essence those suites are subsidizing a good portion of that sailing.