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  1. I don't think these are necessarily unfair; they are tailored approach to a specific industry in an evolving and developing situation. As far as crew repatriation; I think CDC made it expensive and difficult for cruise lines to meet, but not impossible, and I don't think cruise lines were unfairly targeted. If the mindset is these actions are unfair, yes, you can easily cite any number of actions to support your claim. Practically speaking, do I think what the CDC is asking cruise lines to come up with as a plan is feasible and workable? No. Do I think it is on the cruise lines to come up with a method of compliance? Yes. That's not a suggestion of a solution; I don't think I have a better idea than all the minds at work on the problem. I don't know how you guarantee not to drop off 2000-6000 sick people at a US port, or how you have standby capacity in other ships, or how you strike a deal with an island nation government that probably couldn't handle 25 sick people let alone 2500. And so on. Never before thought of scenarios with no realistic solution. This all sounds very challenging to me. If the cruise lines are soliciting advice from people outside of their field, consultants, logistics experts, etc., I am not aware or privy to it. I do find it interesting. Hope you have been doing well Jimbo
  2. Yes, I bail out at that point. I'm data and fact driven. Nothing I say will sway the minds of people who aren't discussing with the same baseline. Your observations are pretty on point. Perspective matters. But I firmly believe we won't get back to doing what we love doing unless everyone takes this seriously. I'm in Florida. People here believe it's "nothing" but ICU's are running out of capacity. One person said to me "And you believe that's all COVID?" No. No one said it was. It's just a factual statement to say ICU's are at less than 20% capacity for whatever myriad ailments and so by people casually going about their lives, you run a risk of healthcare system strain in which they can not also manage heart attack, stroke, trauma/accidents, etc. It's disheartening how so few seem able or willing to think about their actions 2 or 3 steps past themselves, or unwilling to do the most basic steps to not be a part of the problem. Sure do miss cruising, not in a rush to get onboard. Don't see how its feasible. edit: guess we aren't running out if we just move the goal post. phew. that's comforting
  3. I'm not known to write off opposing views. I'm always up for a fair discussion. I am pointing out some differences. Air travel is air travel and cruise travel is cruise travel; and presented some of the differences between them. You, correctly, pointed out other points of consideration.
  4. And I did not even just mean the physical layout and space available onboard; I mean the entire cruise experience. The whole premise of a cruise is a package vacation with activities and events pre-planned to get groups together. It's fun! Everything is a party. It's a lively atmosphere, people make new friends, more crowds means more excitement. People say they just "want to get onboard" but how many would be content with the experience when it means many activities cancelled and the cruise experience to be one of just lounging around most of the day without the party atmosphere?
  5. On an airplane you are next to 1 or 2 people for the duration of your flight. I don't know the average flight time, but if I had to venture a guess; I'd say it is 3 hours or less. In addition, flights are necessary for business reasons in a way that cruises most definitely are not. Meaning that cruising is a discretionary recreational activity; not a viable method of transport for conducting business. The duration of a cruise can be several days to several weeks in which you are in contact with hundreds if not thousands of different people. How could any cruiseline manage that situation? It's practically impossible.
  6. I don't think the first part is accurate and the cruise industry is different than other industries; a one size fits all approach won't work.
  7. It seems to me the cruiselines are unable or unwilling to comply with CDC requests. As difficult as they are, and I don't know how they are workable, its up to the cruiselines to submit business plans. Unfortunately cruising and social distancing are two very mutually exclusive things unless you've got your own boat and do your own thing. A cruise ship is not set up for this kind of thing.
  8. Uncertainty abounds on many fronts. There is the virus. There is job uncertainty causing reductions to discretionary spending in my household as well. With 40M unemployed, it may not matter what they have to wear on a cruise if they can't spend for it.
  9. Nah, there will be a priority program for a fee I am sure. Faster to the Fun style. But I don't foresee cruises disembarking by 10AM and reboarding at 1030AM. I could easily foresee as I posted many weeks back that boarding day lunch is done with; the ship won't start boarding until 3 or 4 PM after it has had more time for sanitizing crews to get through all the public spaces, as well as a chance to sanitize terminals between departing and arriving guests. The hotel industry will have to adapt to the way people are going to need their services in the future. Perhaps staggered check in and check outs at hotels become a new normal. Or the purchase of a 1/4 day additional to leave by 2pm from a hotel becomes a normalized add on?
  10. That does nothing to address the potential of being an asymptomatic carrier. I may appear perfectly healthy and pass a temperature screening, yet have COVID-19 and bring it aboard. The mask I wear in the super market isn't so much to protect me. It is to protect you. The masks other people wear are so that they are trying to protect those that are around them. Unless and until people accept that and go along, I have reservations about entering into public crowded areas. I do not believe anything about the cruise experience is conducive to social distancing, unfortunately. And I have doubts that when left to self-regulate that the cruise lines will hold themselves, and more importantly, their guests, to any sort of rigorous standard. If someone doesn't want to wash hands or take temperature and barrels past some smiling Filipino's, everyone else will follow their example. My concerns are less with the cruise lines and more with people and their behaviors. Thank you for sharing your post.
  11. Their service standards and basic amenity inclusions seemed to drop in lock step with ever increasing prices. Some areas they continue to excel, some they have slipped significantly. The value proposition with RCL is getting a little out of whack to me but will see what next year pricing and what cruisings new normalcy looks like; reserving judgment as they make changes to the product.
  12. I put "Unsure". I personally don't have a problem donning a mask in public spaces, but many around me seem unwilling to do the same. Not being able to trust people around me to act decently will do more to deter me from going to crowded areas than the requirements of being in that area. I saw NCL's "Plan" today and its a step in the right direction but doesn't mention masks whatsoever. I'll have to see what the all encompassing changes are to the cruise experience before I put any more money on the line. Although, I will say this; I will never book an interior or oceanview again. Balcony or not going.
  13. Probably about the same. I tip for services received, not someones personal financial situation (which I never know as it's not my business), so I wouldn't feel guilted or compelled to tip more, likewise my own personal financial situation doesn't dictate that I am going to tip less than before; I know the expectations going in and if service is at the level the company sets, everyone gets their fair piece of it.
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