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Whichever ones goes to Geirangerfjord, go there. It’s the most beautiful place I’ve ever been on this planet.

HAL ships do not fit Seabourn’s business profile whatsoever. They’re too on-board revenue-driven and a capacity too large to handle Seabourn policies. Staff can go back and forth, as they’ve been doing, but those can’t be folded together. HAL passengers on average can’t afford Seabourn as is, either. I think Princess is the odd one out UNLESS they pick up NCL ships for cheap. I dint see that happening and it’d compete too much with Carnival itself anyway. Princess is - while a good, solid line - a little rutterless.

For the crew still on ships, are they moved to guest accommodations to help space them out? I hope that’s an option for the ones working hard without the joy of seeing guests.

I essentially witnessed a mutiny on her, thats’s all I got. That cruise to Bermuda was the worst vacation we’ve ever had. You won’t see me on her ever - though I question if she ever sails for HAL again now.

Cruising will definitely not be “back” fully in a year. Economic devastation reigns so people won’t have discretionary money and cruising will be far down the list next to theme parks, resorts, weekend getaways. I seriously question if Veendam and Zaandam ever sail again with passengers. Hell, I question if the full R-class remains.

Permits were issued months ago. It’s a scheduling conflict, 100%.

So glad common sense and decency reigned here and these ships can dock. Safe travels to those going home and best wishes for speedy recovery for those who are ill! And thank you to all the HAL crew on board.

CCL, I think yes. I’m much more concerned about NCL. I think they’re much more susceptible to a hostile takeover or extreme liquidation. I do think we see CCL with fewer lines - I won’t be surprised if Princess is roled into HAL entirely.

A lot less ships sailing, probably a few less lines (consolidation likely) and waivers required for anyone 65+ (should be done anyway, imo, but that’s a different thread)

Cruise ships are sailing before the dead of summer at the earliest, is my guess. My guess is how many actually sell. Demand is going to be the weakest it’s ever been, and birth rates are obviously skyrocket high.

You aren’t going to Alaska in May. And you aren’t taking an alternative vacation either. Sign up for Netflix. Stay home. Save lives.

Every travel company I can think of.

They have to stay so many meters away just like on DP.

Friends back in Ontario. They have another 14 day quarantine but are in a Canadian facility that’s like a hotel with free range to go anywhere in or out around it with a mask (only ship passengers are there). Thankful they’re back “home.”

They do but believe it will be shortened after a few retests. They have their flight info leaving tomorrow and arriving early, early Friday am. They’ve all packed and are ready to go.