mercury7289

6 hours ago, cruisenewbie1976 said:

Or some of the people, any of the time 😉

Another intended personnel attack!

Predictable.

Yawn!

Little cold, seems to have got worse!

22 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

I doubt they just "dumped" anyone off the ship, but I assume those taken to specific hospitals that were able/willing to treat covid patients, were deemed a significant risk either to their own health,  or infecting others. I am sure there would be some people who would object if seriously ill patients were to remain on the ship until its disembarction port. It is never possible to please all the people all the time.

The 9 passengers concerned tested negative,but were off loaded! as classed as direct contacts!

48 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

Did Mein Schiff passengers actually have to fly back, or were they taken back to the departure port on the ship. Also if these were fly cruises to and from the Canaries, then all the passengers were obviously happy to fly anyway.

Is not the point, the protocols that have been set up by the cruise lines, rather then the individual circumstances?

It would seem that being identified as a direct contact, albeit unknowingly, with a suspected case, means firstly your holiday being curtailed, being isolated on board and being dumped off at the next port.

Can't wait!

18 minutes ago, Josy1953 said:

David hasn't flown for 16 years because his heart is affected by the cabin pressure and I haven't flown since I retired 12 years ago so we would not be happy to fly back from anywhere.

The major concern I would have ,is, as a no fly, wheelchair pilot, the possibility of being off loaded from the ship, with cases and suit and dress hand luggage bags in a foreign port.

We do not take phones, tablets or any other means of communication with us as a choice.

Always willing to undertake an adventure, but not willing to endure hassle. In these circumstances, however we were returned to the UK, would still need to get back to Southampton to pick up the car,and then undertake a 3 and 1/2 hour drive home

Do not need it!

1 hour ago, grapau27 said:

Probably helped being a 7 night cruise because a longer cruise might have led to more spread of the virus.

The CDC in the US stated in the short term no cruises over 7 night's when cruising resumes.

 

 

54 minutes ago, Selbourne said:

Very good point. I have always felt that 7 day cruises won’t be very informative. Many more passengers could have been infected but wouldn’t know until some days after they have disembarked. 14 day or longer cruises will be more telling, as more people would start to display symptoms whilst still on board. 

Agreed that is my view, but did not want to spell it our.

10 hours ago, mercury7289 said:

Reports of 4 Covid positive guests on Mein-Schiff-2, on a 7 day Canaries Cruise.

Report says that they were immediately isolated on board and then taken to quarantine accommodation in Gran Canaria.

The on board tracing system identified 9 further guests and 11 crew as direct contacts ,these were also isolated on board all tested and all negative but all removed to quarantine accommodation facilities in Gran Canaria as well.

Sailing with 60% capacity,and only balcony and suites occupied. This is a report from Ship crews news web site.

To much like a lottery at this time!

After disembarking about 1000 passengers back to Germany the ship was thoroughly sanitised and allowed to continue with the next scheduled voyage,

Tui is reported to have said that this proves that the safety and health protocols work because the virus did not spread, further on board!

Wonder what the unfortunate 9 passengers thought of this!

Reports of 4 Covid positive guests on Mein-Schiff-2, on a 7 day Canaries Cruise.

Report says that they were immediately isolated on board and then taken to quarantine accommodation in Gran Canaria.

The on board tracing system identified 9 further guests and 11 crew as direct contacts ,these were also isolated on board all tested and all negative but all removed to quarantine accommodation facilities in Gran Canaria as well.

Sailing with 60% capacity,and only balcony and suites occupied. This is a report from Ship crews news web site.

To much like a lottery at this time!

10 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said:

Sign me up for the wine! (Not interested in the other activities)

 

 

Okay so what's left for me! 😌

22 minutes ago, Selbourne said:

Delighted to hear that you’ve both had your jabs. Onwards and upwards! We are in group 6, so hoping that they will start on groups 5 and 6 together once groups 1-4 are done and that we will get called up before too long. 

Thank you Selbourne, we had the Oxford one, told we would be contacted to book second jab, but this would be administered in 12 weeks time.then said that it would be a further 2/3 weeks after that, until we could be considered to be at less terminal risk.

So all in all, we would not be vaccinated fully, to enable us to cruise in May.

Do not think that there is any likely hood of a start up any time soon. I guessed July 1st on a post, last year, consider that this may move further back maybe to 1st September.

We will not cruise under the suggested restrictions, we most defiantly will not play the cruise game of Russian roulette, for embarkation. We will not no looking to cruise again because of covid, until fully priced cruises, offering free movement at all ports, and the MDR table sharing experience  which we enjoy, is possible.

Just now, Bazrat said:

Your lucky mine had my first name plus the vaccine no and that was it

We both had our first jab at 5.40 this evening. The card we were given has the name of the vaccine and the batch number and date vaccine given, but above all that information it say,s, Name,as this line  was left blank,we filled in our own names

25 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

That is a pretty harbour Jean.

I could look at that view for hours.

Graham 

Graham, just leave your smart phone on!😃

Just now, terrierjohn said:

All P&O names currently end in A.

Eosa!😃

3 hours ago, Adawn47 said:

You're posh. We still have the one on the wall with a little handle😊

Avril

We still have press button A and press button B, with a hanky up press b to retrieve other users returned coins!💰

Just now, Britboys said:

Just conjecture on my part Avril. Not heard anything specific - just looking at how things are now and guessing that it will be late June before the over 50's get the second dose of vaccine.

Andrew agree with you, I think our B2B 35 night on Aurora embarking on the 1st May is not going to happen.

But not the most important thing in our lives. We will not, look to cruise until 2023 or even 2024 or  until the marketing team have trailed the safety

We were looking at maybe a full world cruise, but not at this time.

Keep safe.

Just now, terrierjohn said:

Since P&O will mainly have Brits on board, and most vulnerable Brits will have been vaccinated by early spring, I think you are all labouring under a false assumption. Even if covid does manage to get on board, it is hardly likely to create major medical problems, the elderly and vulnerable have protection, and the younger ones have a sniffle, where is the plague ship problem on that?

With respect, mainly and most does not mean all and everyone!

26 minutes ago, joeecco said:

You’re most welcome. I knew exactly what you meant, and so did everyone else who actually read your entire post I’m sure. 
I’ll be interested to hear what the insurance companies say to you regarding this. We have never done water sports as of yet. 

48 minutes ago, kevboy said:

Thank you for your replies. Particularly grateful to Joeecco for being so chivalrous on my behalf. I am a pensioner in my eighties and have never taken out water activity cover before because I didnt need it. I was past swimming when I started cruising. I ask because I am taking my whole family on a cruise and my grandchildren might need to be covered.  And to Mercury 7289 you were being rude and most definately not stating the obvious. 

Sorry, In house twaddle gets worse. Shame really, representatives of a multi million pound company.

Just now, joeecco said:

Insurance for water sport activities! Read the question! If he has never done water sports before he wouldn’t have read the small print for water sport insurance. 
 

No need to be so rude to him, he’s entitled to ask a question that he doesn’t know the answer too. 

Most defiantly not being rude, just stating the obvious! 

1 hour ago, joeecco said:

Not if he has never done the water sports before. I’m sure he wouldn’t ask if he knew the answer. 

Yes if he/she has had insurance before, He/she has sailed sailed on all P&O all Cunard and some of Princess.

20 cruises in all, so yes he should!

Just now, kevboy said:

Hi can anyone tell me roughly how much insurance companies charge to cover for activities on holiday? Is it worth paying it or forsaking any water sports activities whilst on holiday.?  Am particularly interested in Caribbean water sport activity.  thank you

Sorry, with your previous cruising experience, you must no the answer?

9 minutes ago, joeecco said:

They say they will be lower price. I’m not an insider so I’m not sure of costs sadly. I appreciate it’s an added cost that builds rapidly with a family of 4 but P&O doesn’t have any other options until restrictions lower. Hopefully this rule is lifted before your cruise but if it isn’t then it’s either endure it or transfer. 
 

The ‘I can get off with an excursion where it’s unsafe but I can’t on my own’ discussion is wasted breath unfortunately. P&O have to be responsible for everyone’s safety onshore and onboard at the moment.  If requirements don’t allow for walking tours then P&O will cancel such trips. 
 

I believe each country will have a different approach, Italy may say you can explore independently off cruise ships if you are tested when disembarking whereas other countries will perhaps enforce bubbled excursions only. 

For lots of reasons,this made me smile. Well done

24 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

Thanks Dave.

It is a local anaesthetic because of my heart medication.

It is a macular hole they are treating caused by an Epiretinal Membrane pulling on the eyes macular.

Graham.

Graham good luck.I will keep my eye out for you!

Sorry someone had to say it!

Seriously, I hope all goes well, as i am sure it will.

It will be another hurdle successfully overcome.

9 hours ago, wowzz said:

At £50 per person deposit , the admin costs alone almost negate the cash flow benefit. 

Carnival won't survive by relying on deposits to finance their debts.

Pre Covid paid £630 deposit for B2B Aurora select balcony 35 nights embarking May 1st 2021.

Every little helps!

1 hour ago, terrierjohn said:

I guess that quite a lot of any upcoming refunds  will be deposit only, so only minimal cash outflow for those that don't opt for the FCC. 

Still cash outflow.!

44 minutes ago, molecrochip said:

January is typically a popular month for booking cruises. Last Monday P&O launched their latest marketing campaign.

 

It's a difficult call as to whether you advertise or not. Given that P&O can sell cruises up to October 22, when airlines are limited to 360 days and package holiday operators aren't yet selling Summer 2022, its a no-brainer to go ahead.

 

Additionally, if 50% of bookings are using FCC then no new funds are flowing in. I'm sure what P&O are trying to do is minimise the amount of FCC that is still around when Winter 2022 and Spring 2023 go on sale.

Understand that, but they must also be looking to get guests who are due to experience further pauses, to move their bookings forward as FCC, thereby reducing there cash outflow when the announcement finally comes and guests seek refunds instead?

Just now, terrierjohn said:

But the cruise lines have no option but to keep advertising, deposits are currently their only income stream.

Did not say any different!