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Not if the empty dining room was assigned to TD in the first place. Just saying...

The food is better on Carnival. Don't order the hamburger at the grill on Princess. It will make you weep and regret leaving Guy's.

I suspect you will be asking yourself if this is Princess at all because just about everything is inferior to what it was 12 years ago.

Trying to follow this is making my head hurt. Is it just me or do there seem to be a few newly enrolled CC members (less than a year and post-startup) who have been cheerleading for the "new" Princess, specifically targeting Elites and their wishes? If I were a cynic, I would think perhaps Princess is paying people to "manage expectations." Of course, I'm not a cynic, and my very useful solution has been to ignore the newly-minted cheerleaders and their non-convincing argument that destruction of benefits is somehow good for us.

Yes, but it's so much easier to just roll out of bed and sip a fresh cup on the balcony! 😁 I ordered one of those water heaters for use in some other travel situations. It's just so cute!

That's funny. I kept reading a title wrong as "Does the Sanctuary Flip Up?" Conjures an image. 🙂 I like the Internet Cafe for the location. There are some nice views out those windows.

rbtan, are you aware of the "Ignore User" function on CC? Go to your profile. I find it a very useful tool, particularly when unpleasant types (who have signed up recently, in many cases) show me they will likely never post anything I find worth my time (i.e., trollesque comments.) Just a heads up, my friend.

It's nothing to me if you don't believe the old timers about TD. Are you an employee of Princess? You seem to be an expert on what they do and why. I'm finished with this conversation, but you go ahead and hold forth.

I guess my mistake was reading the information on the main dining page and not digging into the FAQ.

Are you referring to Elite benefits? In that case, the free Internet is gone and you get a whopping 50% off the new price.

Bill, you are right in that AT still exists in practice. However, the Princess website makes a point that DMW replaces both TD and AT (in those words.) Minor quibble, yes, but I don't think Princess wants anyone to know it's possible to show up without a reservation and still be seated.

I was referring to the practice of wait listing people for TD, whether for late seating from early or from Anytime to late seating TD. Several of us old timers have said this was a common practice. By asking "when" you indicate you do not believe it. That's all. I think it's admirable that you are trying to figure out ways to jimmy rig the current system to allow for a psuedo-TD, but for me, at least, it's beyond help. As soon as the FCC is depleted, I am moving on to other lines (a transition already in progress.) BTW, my last cruise before shutdown was Dec. 2019 on the Royal, and the late TD dining room was full every night. That was the dining room deck 6 aft. It would take some effort to casually check every night to see how full it was, up and down those stairs...

What would constitute "needs must"? Princess makes a very big deal out of the exclusivity of Club Class. I know they do break promises, but this one is a revenue generator and likely to be protected.