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We are sailing on the the Volendam in July/August and wondering who are the current Captain, Hotel General Manager, and Cruise and Travel director.  Just wondering if it is officers we have sailed with in the past.

2 hours ago, NotLikeBelleRosen,IHope said:

I feel badly about this decision. It is possible, however, that that it was made by Apostolate of the Sea. With the shortage of priests, it just might not be possible to have one on each sailing. I think the decision doesn't make sense from a HAL point of view; they get a lot of goodwill and business for the cost of a cabin, meals, and daily one hour use of a meeting room.

I contacted AOS and they said they had nothing to do with it and have priests available.  I talked to our Parish priest who does HAL cruises as a working priest about this and he also said that getting priests is not an issue.  He told me their cabins are small interior cabins that are used for the guest entertainers so by not have a priest it does not free up a cabin for paying guests so it can't be a money issue.

It is interesting about the tendering process being used - from your description a first time HAL cruises that purchased the Club orange or a Neptune Suite gets priority for tendering over a long time HAL cruiser with thousands of dollars spent over many cruises.  I can understand President Club members first but Club Orange and Neptune folks before 5 star is just not right.

BTW - thanks much for your posting - we have 7 friends onboard with you - you may know Bob and Judy G as they have done the World.

Just now, aliaschief said:

Longer cruise. There will be exceptions but I wonder what the average would be for the seven day Caribbean or Canada cruises would be. Maybe Himself could give us an idea and whether poor participation could have added to cooperates decision.

We were on the 10 day and 11 day Caribbean doing B2B2B2B

13 minutes ago, aliaschief said:

With church attendance down around the world it makes me wonder how many were actually attending these services. One is told Philippines is over 80% Catholic and likewise stats in Italy but the percentage for those who actually practice and attend is high twenties or low thirties. Attendance throughout Christianity is down. So that is why I wonder how well attended have these onboard masses been?
We often attend a non-denominational layman’s service if offered.

In January/February 2024 on the Rotterdam we filled the BB King "church" for Saturday evening Mass.

Are folks able to watch YouTube videos on the Surf package?  Now that they are limiting the Catholic Priests on the ships we may have to attend Mass via YouTube like we did during the pandemic.

We get the AARP and Teacher Credit through our TA and had it for 3 cruises this year and already have it on 4 cruises for 2025.  I did have to call the Mariner society about the Teacher credit on one but they took care of it in just a couple of minutes.  It had to do with the verification - it seems that even though you have qualified as a retired teacher you have to requalify which makes no sense since once you are a retired teacher you are always a retired teacher unless you go back into teaching in which case you still qualify.

On 6/11/2024 at 12:18 PM, jagger16 said:

For me it was not automatic. I did the Verify then asked my TA to contact HAL and ask them to add the OBC to an existing cruise. HAL said it was only for new bookings. Several months later I did Verify again, asked my TA to contact HAL and this time they added it to both cruises I now had booked. I also get the teacher OBC and my TA has had to ask for it to be added every time. Just be proactive and stay on it until it gets added.

We have had to do the same thing.  

On 6/6/2024 at 1:53 PM, C 2 C said:

The best deals on HAL are getting OBC for:

Stock ownership

Military Discount

Teacher discount

AARP membership

 

I recently looked at a long cruise and all those do not qualify.

I don't know if booking onboard will get more than a $100 or if they cancel other OBC

 

Why did these OBC not qualify.  We booked a 45 day for the fall of 2025 when on board earlier this year and got the Teacher and AARP OBC - Waiting for closer to the cruise to get the Stock OBC

On 6/5/2024 at 8:18 AM, shadow 123 said:

My husband and I are both members. Does that mean I can use his name to order more gift cards in a month ? Sorry but I confused easy At the stage.

Yes - my wife and I are both members and each of us can get 5 each month.

Here is the message I received from the HAL office of the President.

Thank you for contacting Mr. Brett Swofford Mr. Swofford has reviewed your feedback and asked me to respond on his behalf.

We appreciate your outreach about religious services and chaplains on our ships and for sharing your concerns. We have recently reviewed our programming and made the decision to

prioritize spiritual care for our longer cruises, for cruises where guests are further away from home, and for cruises over religious holidays.

We will continue to have a priest on board to provide daily mass for all trans-ocean crossings, and cruises to Hawaii, the Panama Canal, Asia, South America, Australia, and New Zealand.

On Grand and Legendary Voyages, services will be held by a Catholic Priest, Protestant Minister, and Jewish Rabbi. On Christmas and Easter, both a Catholic Priest and Protestant Minister will lead services on all ships, and on Holiday Cruises over Hannukah, a Jewish Rabbi or Cantor will lead services on our cruises. For all other cruises, to serve the spiritual needs of our guests, we provide congregation-led interdenominational services on Sunday mornings and congregation-led Jewish Shabatt services on Friday evenings. Your comments are welcome, and we will certainly incorporate them into our planning processes. We do appreciate your input regarding this important aspect of our shipboard schedule, and again, we sincerely apologize for your dissatisfaction.

Thank you once more for contacting Mr. Swofford. Feedback from our Mariners is vital in our mission to create once-in-a-lifetime experiences, every time, and we hope to share many more voyages with you.

Sincerely,

Bella Smith

Special Advisor
Office of the President

Below is the response I received from HAL Ship Services.

Thank you for contacting the Holland America Line. 

Beginning in 2025, we will no longer provide a priest on every cruise, instead prioritizing pastoral care by providing daily Catholic mass on ocean crossings and cruises to Hawaii, the Panama Canal, Asia, South America, Australia, and New Zealand where guests are further from home. 

We will also begin providing a Catholic Priest and Protestant Minister to lead services over Christmas and Easter, as well as a Jewish Rabbi or Cantor for our holiday sailings over Hannukah. In addition, we will continue to have a priest, rabbi and Protestant minister on every Legendary and Grand Voyage.

 With Warm Regards,

Ship Services

450 Third Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119

www.hollandamerica.com 

7 minutes ago, dockman said:

I don't know the current mix of hal crew but I believe many of them are muslim as they are from Indonesia..

 

Indonesia is considered a Muslim nation because of its large Muslim population, with 87% of Indonesians identifying as Muslim in 2022.

The Philippines proudly boasts to be the only Christian nation in Asia. More than 86 percent of the population is Roman Catholic.  Therefore, this policy change impacts many HAL crew members.

I have not received a response from HAL yet or Gus.  Below is the letter I received from the AOS and from that it appears that a shortage of priests is not the reason behind the policy change.  If HAL does not change the policy I guess we will be forced to look for Mass on YouTube and purchase the premium internet package. 

Thank you for asking.

I’m very sorry to report that Holland America is changing their policy on having priests onboard.  Here is a note from our President, Capt. George P McShea, Jr.

Our long-standing cruise line partner Holland America Lines (HAL) has advised AOS-USA that they are scaling down the assignments of Priests to their vessels.

Effective immediately HAL will no longer have priests on the following cruises:

 • Caribbean 

 • Alaska 

 • Mexico 

 • Canada/New England

 • Europe

Priests already assigned to one of the above HAL cruises will be allowed to complete their ministry.

Should an already assigned priest not be able to complete his assignment, AOS-USA will not be allowed to back fill the assignment.

HAL will continue to assign priests on the following cruises:

 • Hawaii 

 • Ocean Crossings 

 • Panama Canals 

 • Asia 

 • South America 

 • Australia/New Zealand 

 • Grand 

 • Legendary 

 • All cruises crossing Christmas & Easter

We all know the value of having a priest onboard. Our cruise ship priests have brought the Eucharist to Catholic crewmembers who spend months at sea away from families and the formalities of their religion; Priests have performed burials at sea, counseled crew and passengers after deaths or catastrophes onboard, conducted ecumenical services for passengers of all faiths as requested, and many more unseen services.

This year we were looking at over 300 priest assignments with HAL. We estimate in 2025 that number will be less than 100.

AOS-USA will continue our ministry to cruise line crews and passengers and continue to work on establishing and strengthening our relationships with all cruise lines going forward.

Through the intercession of Servant of God Brother Marinus, may God help us in this challenging time.

George

So, as stated above, this is effective immediately, but those sailings which already have priests assigned, will not be affected.

In Our Lady Star of the Sea,

Doreen

Doreen M. Badeaux

Secretary General

Apostleship of the Sea of the United States of America

1500 Jefferson Drive

Port Arthur, TX 77642-0646

phone: 409-985-4545

fax: 409-985-5945

If you are upset with this policy change I suggest you do what I did and contact the President of Holland America at  gantorcha@carnival.com   I did this yesterday and awaiting a response.

I just emailed the President of HAL as to why HAL has changed this policy - interested to see if I get a response.

I have seen postings on several social media sites that HAL is starting to reduce the cruises that will have priest on board. This included not having priests on Caribbean, Alaska and cruises in Europe. I have a request into HAL ship services and AOS for a confirmation of the situation.

We are booked in January and they did the opposite - cancelled the ABC and substituted western.

On 5/8/2024 at 11:27 AM, bebe08 said:

We are also on Volendam now.  We forgot about there being only one 110v plug in the room.  DH went to gift shop and bought a voltage converter with USB ports for 20$.  Our stateroom attendant obviously noticed and put a power bar in our room.  All that to say I recommend bringing an adapter if you have it so that you can also use the 230v plug as well.

 

To get to Mdr level 4 you need to go up to level 5 if approaching from midship and then back down to 4.

 

We are really enjoying the cruise. Ports are all repeats for us and most are easy to Dyi if you choose.  

 

Happy to answer any specific questions.

It has been 2020 since we were on the Volendam - Are there any USB ports in the cabins on the Volendam?  

Yes the Rotterdam has steps across the aft end of each pool.  They can be very slippery and often people sit on them making it difficult to enter the pool.

4 hours ago, REOVA said:

Yes someone on CC in the past few years posted that the Mariner Discount and preboard wifi discount cannot be combined. I pre-purchase the lower wifi. Once onboard they will offer discount to upgrade at which time you can use the $30 benefit to lower the cost. 

Correct - I checked with several offices at HAL and they say that you can only get the $30 credit if you purchased the internet when on board.   I agree that over the last 5 years the 5 Star benefit keeps getting less and less.  Between HIA and club orange people can now buy their way into the benefits rather than those of us that have spent thousands over many cruises.

What is the latest version for Android - mine says 4.36.1

Presidents Club.  It is by invitation after you have 1400 days on HAL ships.  We know several people that are president club members.  The top member who we know has over 3500 days on HAL ships.  We are getting there with 904 days but don't think we will live long enough to make 1400.

We have had my wife's teacher credit and our AARP credit applied to multiple cruises in a year.  My TA took care of it - no problem

On 1/30/2024 at 6:20 PM, redcruzer said:

Hello. I am looking at a 45 day cruise to Mediterranean roundtrip from NYC. This would be our first Holland America cruise. A little nervous with the smaller size and traveling across the Atlantic. I imagine it would be felt quite a bit. Does anyone have any insight to this? Also is this a nice ship? I see it's on the older side. Spending the amount of $$ on such a once in a lifetime trip, I want to be sure my husband and I will just love it. thanks so much.

We did then 77 day Grand South America on the Volendam in 2020 - We are booked for 24 days this fall and also booked on the 45 day.  So yes we like the Volendam!