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Looks like a another sponson being installed from the web cam, 5 or 6?
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"We don't like your solutions, but we can't provide any better ones." "I'm sure the science is there, you guys just need to spend more money to find the best solution." Typical.
Exactly. I'm assuming a teleporter aka like in Star Trek doesn't exist to beam the CC out of there....hmmm.:rolleyes:
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I think it is time that the mayor was told to butt out and let the salvage team get on with the salvage of the ship in the best possible way, at this rate the Concordia will still be there this time next year!
The Italains are doing everything they can to stop Concordia going anywhere else other than a yard in Italy.
Politics at it's worst.
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More politics.....what a nightmare.
Absurd hypothesis Concordia CampeseWritten by: Press Office City of Isola del Giglio May 22, 2014
GIGLIO ISLAND TOWN
Province of Grosseto
Speech by the Mayor of Isola del Giglio Sergio Ortelli COSTA CONCORDIA A CAMPESE, CHALLENGE OFF ANY REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY ' "Giglio Campese is, like all of our island, a pristine place and will not allow anyone to rape exceedingly our landscape and environmental heritage. The question, as far as we are concerned, you never open and closes here.
Boskalis Dockwise Vanguard removal costs concord island lily giglionews"The idea of using the bay of Giglio Campese to load the Costa Concordia on Vanguard is beyond any reasonable possibility and will never be put on the table for discussion, nor taken into account.».
To emphasize the Mayor of Isola del Giglio Sergio Ortelli as a result of news that appeared yesterday in the media.
"Just thinking, by Costa Crociere, a similar idea - adds the mayor - is not only a challenge to our island but a request absurd, so absurd that will reship immediately to the sender. The gigliesi deserve respect and therefore the project idea should be removed as soon as possible. The ship, once able to float, will have to leave the island. On this we are not willing to compromise. Campese is, like all of our island, a pristine place and will not allow anyone to rape exceedingly our landscape and environmental heritage. The question, as far as we are concerned, you never open and close here. "
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From the weekly report:
Installation of sponsons Sat Apr 26, '14 Fri Jul 11, '14 76 days 18%Install SB sponson - S9 Sat May 17, '14 Mon May 19, '14 2 days 0%
Install SB sponson - S8 Wed May 21, '14 Fri May 23, '14 2 days 0%
Install SB sponson - S7 Fri May 23, '14 Sun May 25, '14 2 days 0%
S13 incident remediation Wed May 7, '14 Sun Jun 15, '14 39.67 days 36%S12 remediation Tue May 13, '14 Sun Jun 15, '14 33 days 21%
http://www.giglionews.it/wp-content/uploads/rel_sett_osservatorio180514.pdf?f0ba71
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Port disposal article from Giglio news.
A conference of port services decides disposalA CONFERENCE OF PORT SERVICES HAS DECIDED DISPOSAL
It will be a decision-services conference, convened by the Head of Department of Civil Protection Franco Gabrielli, in his capacity as deputy commissioner for emergency management Concordia, to consider and approve the project that Costa Cruises will present for the transfer of the wreck at a port identified suitable for subsequent disposal.
And 'as set out yesterday by the Council of Ministers, which also requires that the same Conference Services to issue the necessary authorizations and go-ahead for the next phase to rigalleggiamento of Concord, on the basis of an investigation and technical evaluation of the Observatory.
It is then up to the commissioner, brings a note of the structure commissioner for the emergency, "to report the outcome of the decision-conference services, with appropriate communication to the Council of Ministers and to provide, with its ordinances, the adoption of any additional measures necessary to the correct execution of the project and its requirements set forth. "
The Council of Ministers has chosen "the road to arrive at a definite time - set to 16 June -, to have certainty about the final phase of operations aimed at the removal of the wreck. It is, in fact, the same path that led, two years ago, the approval of the transactions contemplated by the draft guidelines for the removal and recovery of the vessel proposed by the shipping company: as on that occasion, the green light will be expressed by part of a table that, in addition to the private part, includes all public calls to express themselves, each to the extent of its competence, the requirements to be met in the course of the work and recommendations for better protection of the environment, health and of historical and archaeological heritage. "
As expected already for the Conference of the Services which gave the green light to the project in principle in 2012, also, if the agreement is not reached, it will be the Council of Ministers to act, even in the eventual exercise of its powers replacement within the next seven days.
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Photo I hadn't seen before showing the bumpers being welded in place.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the Italian government wants to make the dismantling of the Concordia into a jobs program, they should have to pay the difference between the cost at an Italian port and the lowest bid.
Agreed!
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From GiglioNews:
Costa Concordia announces dates for removalWritten by: Editorial Staff GiglioNews May 12, 2014 in News 3 Comments
COSTA CONCORDIA ANNOUNCES DATES FOR REMOVAL
The news Dario Rossi Tuscany News which publishes the minutes of today's meeting in Florence Observatory.
The meeting of the Observatory for the recovery of the Costa Concordia was held this morning at Palazzo Cerretani did point out two important aspects of the plan and the expected recovery of the wreck, stressed the Chairman Mary Sargentini; the timetable and plan of treatment and recovery of water contained in the hull.
First, however, has been examined, for the information of all the components of the organism, the incident of the famous horizontal box S13, being transferred to Genoa for the necessary control measures and restoration of full operational functionality awaiting the throw-in operates. An unexpected accident and certainly not to be repeated, they said the engineer Franco Porcellacchia Costa and Stefano Girotto consortium Titan-Micoperi, but who taught very safe for the rest of the work engagement of the other cells.
The proposed timetable provides for the Costa Concordia rigalleggiamento of between 18 and 20 July next, dates of which the Centre was limited to taking note. The update of the plan of inland waters, added the president Sargentini, was instead required in view of the deadline of 20 May, the date specified by the Observatory for the start of operations of the treatment.
As for the fuel tanks, according to data presented by Costa and the consortium, the integrity of the speakers is such as to ensure that they remain tight and the absence of hydrocarbon spill residue when towing; Costa then does not see the need for intervention. In any case, the Centre has requested and obtained by means of a reconnaissance robot for precise monitoring of the situation, and to make an informed assessment as to continue the operation.
As for the water present in the free volumes in flotation, estimated between 140 thousand and 159mila cubic meters, the plan provides the suction of about 4 thousand cubic meters in two specific areas at the level of the bridge C, one at the bow and stern, that have the highest concentrations of pollutants. The purpose of this operation, said Sargentini, will alleviate these concentrations (in particular phthalates and hydrocarbons) in view of the inevitable upheaval and exchange with external water at the time of the action of rigalleggiamento, keeping the weight necessary to balance the hull .
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Just found this article.
http://www.thelocal.it/20140430/italy-cruise-ship-removal-project-halted-media
Politics always enter the fray, especially when it looks like scrapping in Turkey is the best option as mentioned in that article.
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There is a good picture in the weekly report that shows that they are modular stateroom blocks.
Thanks!
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I would say definitely ship's structure on the barge, not caissons. Timeline shows the first caisson showing up on Wed/Thu. They are getting the "mooring spread" (several anchors/lines to anchor towers) out today.
Makes sense, I wish they had a closer web cam view.
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I think the first two have arrived aboard Conquest which also seems to have the crane to hoist them. There are 19 in total to be fitted so we are in for a busy time.
Definitely can see the caissons on the crane barge in the web cam view.
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Sure its possible to "park" the ship somewhere, you just need the permits, because of possible stuff falling off, etc. There is also the need to monitor the ship and the caissons to maintain the ship afloat, etc, tend mooring lines, etc. The longer she sits around, the more likelihood she may break apart.
Politics bore the heck out of me, so I've not been following all the Latin posturing regarding Piombino. But I can tell you that if they haven't started dredging the harbor by now (and I would be surprised if they started without a firm commitment), it probably won't be done by September. Maybe September 2015. And I can't believe they would have the infrastructure ready by September, given that there is nothing there.
I may get back to the painful translations since it seems there won't be much activity this month, and see if I can figure out something more.
Excellent points, Turkey seems to me to be the most likely port.
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Thanks SB
It does appear from that, that although she will be ready to sail at the end of June it may well be that she will stay where she is until September when Piombino is ready to receive her.
What does everyone else think?
$1.1 billion estimated cost of the recovery of the CC so far. Wow. :eek:
As to the port of salvage, I think the decision will come down to money and timing, although the authorities would obviously desire one of the Italian ports be the final destination.
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The sponson activity looks like it will be heating up soon.
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Translated article on the disposal port:
Although there is still little clarity on the timing of removal , there are many Italian ports who compete for the disposal of the Costa Concordia . Yesterday we record the positions taken by the presidents of the regions of Lazio and Tuscany and the Secretary of the Environment on . Silva Veil.removal concord island lily giglionewsLe Zingaretti President's words - "We are in the field, with a proposal of Civitavecchia very competitive. I spoke with the president of the Tuscany Rossi 's willingness to find all the forms of collaboration, because in Tuscany or Lazio is a solution within the standards and European directives that require disposal in the nearest harbor . Anything else would be incomprehensible and probably against the European directives . " He said the President of the Lazio Region Zingaretti , on the sidelines of an initiative at the FS station of Civitavecchia.
" Lazio and Tuscany are combined and available so that this affair will end in the best way - he added - with minimal cost and maximum efficiency . Together we will work for even the government to clarify . There is no conflict between us, but we want to cooperate to the best solution, more logical and more competitive for Italy and especially the quieter the environmental point of view . To travel the wreck for the Mediterranean would be a huge risk . We will feel in the coming hours with Rossi to evaluate what to do . " The project Civitavecchia - Piombino " is already in the field - again emphasized Zingaretti - in our case it always has been . You have to assess feasibility. We have never tried anything, but if it comes to Piombino and Civitavecchia it comes to business decisions , it would be another thing if it becomes severe . Together, we can work together to create clarity. Renewal of this appeal to the collaboration with Rossi so that together they make a proposal to the Italian Costa Cruises - he concluded - that the government takes into account Renzi hope . "
Rossi : no war in Genoa - " I do not no war , I, with respect to the disposal of this ship to other ports , I just say : be careful , to bring it to Genoa it takes five days, and any citizen can understand that transporting five days that ship in the Mediterranean from the environmental point of view is not the best . " He said Enrico Rossi , the president of the Tuscany region , the hypothesis about the disposal of the wreck of the Costa Concordia at the port of Genoa. Rossi spoke on the sidelines of a meeting of the Regional Council of Tuscany .
Velo : worried by the way - " I do not understand why do not select the nearest port ." Thus, the undersecretary for the environment Silvia Veil on removing and disposing of the Costa Concordia , " worried by the way " that the wreck of the ship must take to reach the port of destination. "I want to repeat once again - writes on Facebook Undersecretary - in this affair the protection and preservation of the Lily and the Tyrrhenian Sea should be the first priority before any other interest in the field." Second Veil "on the issue of the disposal of the wreck of the Concordia is talking about anything but the real priority : protecting the environment. The question we should ask is: what is the safest haven in which to bring the protection of our sea ? " . Now , he says, "to be undersecretary for the environment , I can not express my concerns about the debate that is triggering these days ." " Until now, the operations were handled in an excellent manner - concludes Velo - but efforts to rigalleggiamento and the displacement of the Concordia bother me even for a short commute let alone for a long journey in which they should be guaranteed , moreover, optimal weather conditions for several days . "
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Also from the weekly report, the crane ship Ciclope is expected to arrive on site on Saturday, March 8th.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/photo_keywords:8959049/ship_name:CICLOPE#740829
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There is a short note in the new Marine log' date=' that quotes the environmental Minister from Italy as saying that there are about 12 companies, from 6 nations that are bidding on the scrapping of the Concordia.
He also stated, that the Italian government would prefer (not require) that the scrapping be done by a domestic company.
I believe the realities of the requires to scrap a vessel of this size is settling in.
It requires a lot of space and specialized operations and its not cheap. As far as I know, Italy does not have a scrap yard that big/specailized to do the job.
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Also check the latest weekly report. Some interesting photos of the port side bumpers that the sponsons will attach to.
http://www.giglionews.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rel_sett_osservatorio020314.pdf
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Very sad to hear that news. Shows how dangerous underwater salvage work can be.
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I was wondering how it was going to be moved to the scrapping port once raised off the platform. I found this in Giglio News that answers that question:
"If the port will be close - again emphasized Gabrielli - the removal will occur with towing, where the port will be more distant the wreck will be placed at an intermediate port, and then carried away with the Vanguard at the port of final destination."
Concordia News: Please Post Here
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That's a good point.