'Elation' pax dies

[nrdsb4]

Absolutely correct... it happens a lot and Carnival will not comment.

 

A woman died on board the Ecstasy the cruise before mine in February. Folks kept badgering John Heald on his blog for a cause of death. He politely declined to answer but I can tell you that he was getting tired of the question...

 

 

I remember that incident. The media made a big deal about it at first, suggesting that there was foul play involved, insinuations were made about the boyfriend, a past report of domestic violence was released, etc. Then the initial autopsy results were released, stating the body showed no signs of trauma and that additional tests would need to be done. The media has been completely silent on this incident ever since the reports that she had been visibly beaten were refuted. Seems like the tests should be done by now, but it's apparently no longer newsworthy.

[dan40]

John Who?

 

 

John Galt??

[Nunu]

John Galt??

 

[bkluyt]

We were also on this cruise and we heard the same information from one of the staff. There were two deaths on this cruise. One elderly man who had a heart attack and the 31 year old who died from excessive drinking. While we arrived in port on time, there was a delay in disembarking because they had to get the bodies off the ship first.

[happy cruzin]

common sense doesn't work well at Cruise Critic most of the time.

 

 

LOL....That is a TRUE statement!! ;) :D

[Crusin6]

We were also on this cruise and we heard the same information from one of the staff. There were two deaths on this cruise. One elderly man who had a heart attack and the 31 year old who died from excessive drinking. While we arrived in port on time, there was a delay in disembarking because they had to get the bodies off the ship first.

excessive drinking...I can hear it now....why didn't the bartender cut him off? It was Carnival's fault for letting him smuggle........or....wasn't that the guy who was falling down all over the ship that night?...someone shoulda known....etc. etc.:eek:

[McMacy]

Rest in Peace. I hope he and his family were having fun.

[mom2boys97]

People die everyday in all kinds of places, me and my dh work in a casino and OMG the number of people that die all year long is amazing from all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with the casino but natural casuses and we dont post it on the marqee when someone dies lol...

[halos]

excessive drinking...I can hear it now....why didn't the bartender cut him off? It was Carnival's fault for letting him smuggle........or....wasn't that the guy who was falling down all over the ship that night?...someone shoulda known....etc. etc.:eek:

I imagine you are probably right.

[mferris77]

I'm no medic but the whole 'excessive drinking' thing seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

 

Sure you can die from alcohol poisoning but that usually isn't as simple as 'drinking at the bar' one minute and 'dead on the floor' the next. From what I've seen/heard of alcohol poisoning it's from people chugging alcohol in a very short period (ie, frat party dares, etc) - and even then it's preceded by passing out or otherwise obvious physical distress.

[louann123]

His bar tab must have been $5000+ to be able to get alcohol poisoning from cruise drinks.

or maybe his family has a legal suit against rumrunnerflasks.om

[sanmarcosman]

"HI JOHN PLEASE REPLY-

 

I heard there was a murder on one of the ships last month - what's up with that?! Also can I get a table for two on my sailing on the Glory in two weeks?"

You said it :)

[louann123]

I JUST heard they moved the midnight buffet to 11pm because of these murders!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrCo9]

"HI JOHN PLEASE REPLY-

 

I heard there was a murder on one of the ships last month - what's up with that?! Also can I get a table for two on my sailing on the Glory in two weeks?"

Shouldn 't you be asking the MD about your dining preferences as opposed to the CD??

 

On a cruise my sister was on an older lady died in a deck chair by the pool. They felt sorry for her husband.

I heard he was at the singles mixer that evening.

[MrCo9]

I JUST heard they moved the midnight buffet to 11pm because of these murders!!!!!!!!!!!

You heard wrong, there is no longer a midnight buffet.

[Boatdrill]

A death on a cruise ship is an absolutely routine event.

 

Not always.

 

The FBI normally does not board the ship to investigate a passenger death, as it did in this case with the Elation.

 

Another recent death onboard the same ship was caused by the deceased woman's husband.

[VillaHappy]

Yeah, why don't they just prop you up on a deck chair by the pool? It'll keep the chair hogs away.

 

 

OMG! :eek: OMG! :p OMG! :D

[Boatdrill]

I'm no medic but the whole 'excessive drinking' thing seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

 

On a short Carnival cruise to Mexico ????

 

Sounds quite right, actually.

 

Who knows what he drank in Ensenada. :(

[me3boyz]

On a short Carnival cruise to Mexico ????

 

Sounds quite right, actually.

 

Who knows what he drank in Ensenada. :(

 

He never made it to Ensenada. He died Saturday night sometime around midnight. I was also on board. And there was only 1 death on the ship. I know this because we were watching from the balcony as they took his body off the ship.

 

Also, none of our group's bags were checked for alcohol. Although we carried ours on & didn't check any alcohol.

[salty dingo]

Remind me to never even THINK about taking a 2 or 3 day cruise. It sounds like one non-stop drink-fest!

[dan40]

Not always.

 

The FBI normally does not board the ship to investigate a passenger death, as it did in this case with the Elation.

 

Another recent death onboard the same ship was caused by the deceased woman's husband.

 

Had you bothered to quote my full post, you'd have your answer. This is part of what you left out when partially quoting me:

 

"Any death, when a person is not under a Doctor's care is investigated."

[kyrisong1]

why do the ships have morgue, howcome they cant wait till they dock in port to deal with the person?

Maybe to avoid decomp odor???? ;)

[Kurbanfan]

I'm no medic but the whole 'excessive drinking' thing seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

 

 

Actually that sounds like a few 3 day Carnival Ensenada cruises I have experienced;) Believe me Carnival still is known for their party ships....

[kyrisong1]

I'm no medic but the whole 'excessive drinking' thing seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

 

Sure you can die from alcohol poisoning but that usually isn't as simple as 'drinking at the bar' one minute and 'dead on the floor' the next. From what I've seen/heard of alcohol poisoning it's from people chugging alcohol in a very short period (ie, frat party dares, etc) - and even then it's preceded by passing out or otherwise obvious physical distress.

Nope your body decides when it's had enough, especially if the person had maybe hidden diabetes or some other kind of metabolic problem we are not aware of.

I had a friend that was diagnosed with alcohol poisoning just a few shots into her bar night, but she'd been drinking steadily every night for a month or so.

Everyone is different. Very sad though, 31 :-(

[dd2355]

People die everyday in all kinds of places, me and my dh work in a casino and OMG the number of people that die all year long is amazing from all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with the casino but natural casuses and we dont post it on the marqee when someone dies lol...

 

Although a little sobering to think about, there shouldn't be any reason for people to be surprised by this.

 

Back of the envelope calculation: if we assume people live on average 80 years, then for every 80 people you'd have one death a year. For every thousand people (assuming even distribution of demographics), that's around 12 deaths per year.

 

So without any adjustments for age distributions taking cruises, other risk factors, etc, that's around 25 deaths per year on a 2000 passenger ship. One every two weeks.