Just back of Carnival Dream and the alcohol confiscating IS WAY UP!!!

[albether7]

I for one am glad that Carnival is eliminating power strips. My cousin and his family lost their house because of a power strip. The power strip exploded and the fire spread so fast, the only thing they could do was get out of the house. Within 3 minutes their house was completely engulfed in flames....yes from a powerstrip. The fire fighters said a powerstrip should be discarded after 2 years. After that they are a major fire hazard.

 

Truly sorry about your loss.

 

Re power strips.......

The cheap power strips bring a false security re. its use in circuit overload protection. Many are 1 trip only breakers, if that, then they are nothing more than extension cords.

 

If looking to protect your computer against surges, spend some real $$ and get 1 that is designed for overload protection. Many also have half hour battery back ups as well.

 

Al

[ava_girl_123]

AKNOT- I have stated my opinion on this board, if people have read this thread from the absolute beginning they will see that. I have never smuggled anything before anywhere, not a train, not a cruise, not a plane, not into a game, etc...Not in a tree, you let me be..(Sound like Dr. Suess) :D

However, I am not bothered by those who do at all.. Doesn't bother me the least bit.. I may smuggle onto to cruise, I may not.. Whatever..

What I am still trying to find out or at least understand is why you are so bothered by it? Really.. why does it strike you so emotionally hard that people all over the world break rules that are in place on a daily basis? Not just smugglers on cruise ships, all over the place. I would think if I thought that way, I would walk around pretty mad all day long just thinking about all of the rule breakers.. :rolleyes:

Isn't better to take a "To each his own" view of everything? Not saying to agree with it, but maybe not try to be so bothered by it? Like I have stated, I am more worried about people smuggling on missing children, drugs, bombs, poisons and such.. :cool:

[Aknot]

What's the adverse effect of smuggling beside the risk of having your alcohol taken?

 

Some possibly are:

 

1. People getting more inebriated then what they would have been and causing problems.

 

2. More alcohol related injuries both for the drinker and others.

 

3. Less revenue for the ship.

 

Which all adds up to the Cruise line taking a hit. So the cruise line makes a rule to cover themselves then attempts to enforce it. As more and more people circumvent this rule more checks and balances will be put in place along with more rules.

 

Do you see the outcome?

 

Im not saying you or anyone else here will get drunk punch a porter and throw up in the kiddie pool then fall over board. (well maybe Kurb IM KIDDING) but you asked and at the rate people attempt to push the envelope I could see this happening.

[vacruisin]

This point may be true, but if you get caught, do you tell the police officer your will file a formal complaint because you were only "slightly" breaking the law? Do you go into traffic court with the same argument or say that your defence is that other people do it, or do you accept that you got caught?

 

As I've said before, what really bothers me is the attitude of some posters that say "if I get caught & have it taken away, I'll never cruise with them again". If you get caught breaking the rules, you deserve it, don't complain. If you get away with it, that's no one else's business.

 

No, but I literally had a judge throw a speeding case out for me because the officer ticketed me for going 5 miles over the speed limit on the highway. The judge actually chastised the officer for wasting the court's time for such a "minor" infraction.

 

If someone is going overboard with the smuggling I can see why Carnival could have a problem but some people are getting tagged for having an extra bottle of wine..that's ridiculous. All "infractions" do not weight the same and yes I think it's a legitimate gripe when Carnival confiscates small quantities of "unauthorized" alcohol.

 

I mean does Carnival always set sail exactly when they say they will? They can't get a blank check to impost any rule on the cruisers but they get to change things to their convenience. If you want to get technical, leaving later takes away from the cruise time I pay for.

[LordKrystic]

Bummer! Although I don't get the whole Vegas for non gamblers either;)

But even so there are ways of getting around to having to pay for drinks......

 

 

 

LOL! I'm pretty sure most people that smuggle know it is against Carnivals rules:p But that has nothing to do with the argument that non smugglers pay more because of it:rolleyes:

 

 

 

Oh I gamble a bit, mostly pai-gow, but nowhere near enough to be rated high enough to get anything for free. Vegas for non-gamblers is all about the food. The amount of excellent eateries within the distance of a cheap airline flight is amazing. As it is, I can afford to pay for drinks so that's never been a real problem.

[fre1fred2]

Some possibly are:

 

1. People getting more inebriated then what they would have been and causing problems.

 

2. More alcohol related injuries both for the drinker and others.

 

3. Less revenue for the ship.

 

Which all adds up to the Cruise line taking a hit. So the cruise line makes a rule to cover themselves then attempts to enforce it. As more and more people circumvent this rule more checks and balances will be put in place along with more rules.

 

Do you see the outcome?

 

Im not saying you or anyone else here will get drunk punch a porter and throw up in the kiddie pool then fall over board. (well maybe Kurb IM KIDDING) but you asked and at the rate people attempt to push the envelope I could see this happening.

 

 

Do you drink on a cruise...alcohol that is?

[Kurbanfan]

Some possibly are:

 

1. People getting more inebriated then what they would have been and causing problems.

 

2. More alcohol related injuries both for the drinker and others.

 

3. Less revenue for the ship.

 

 

1 & 2 can and has happened when one purchases drinks on the ship.........3 is not and has never been a proven fact;)

[Aknot]

AKNOT- I have stated my opinion on this board, if people have read this thread from the absolute beginning they will see that. I have never smuggled anything before anywhere, not a train, not a cruise, not a plane, not into a game, etc...Not in a tree, you let me be..(Sound like Dr. Suess) :D

 

However, I am not bothered by those who do at all.. Doesn't bother me the least bit.. I may smuggle onto to cruise, I may not.. Whatever..

 

What I am still trying to find out or at least understand is why you are so bothered by it? Really.. why does it strike you so emotionally hard that people all over the world break rules that are in place on a daily basis? Not just smugglers on cruise ships, all over the place. I would think if I thought that way, I would walk around pretty mad all day long just thinking about all of the rule breakers.. :rolleyes:

 

Isn't better to take a "To each his own" view of everything? Not saying to agree with it, but maybe not try to be so bothered by it? Like I have stated, I am more worried about people smuggling on missing children, drugs, bombs, poisons and such.. :cool:

 

This is a discussion board. I like to discuss. The issue at hand is not really up for debate. It is a rule. It should not be broken.

 

People wonder why others care they give reasons and more or less told they are "crazy".

 

To each his own applies if you can not directly correlate it with me. If you want to talk during a movie... watch it at your house dont do it at the theater where I could be.

 

Thats the only thing I have issue with. It MAY affect me as I am possibly going to be there when something happens when it could have been avoided by that someone following the rules.

 

So you want to break the rules in your home when you are the only one affected go right ahead. I could care less. However when there is a chance that me or my family could be you darn right I will say something and speak up.

[lawskool10]

Some possibly are:

 

1. People getting more inebriated then what they would have been and causing problems. If people want to get drunk, they will whether they smuggle or not.

 

2. More alcohol related injuries both for the drinker and others. How are you sure that these injuries are related only to those that smuggle?

 

3. Less revenue for the ship. Where is this proof? If you are SO concerned about revenue, why aren't you ranting about the non-drinkers?

 

Which all adds up to the Cruise line taking a hit. So the cruise line makes a rule to cover themselves then attempts to enforce it. As more and more people circumvent this rule more checks and balances will be put in place along with more rules.

 

Do you see the outcome? Nope.

 

Im not saying you or anyone else here will get drunk punch a porter and throw up in the kiddie pool then fall over board. (well maybe Kurb IM KIDDING) but you asked and at the rate people attempt to push the envelope I could see this happening.

 

None of what you stated is a direct consequence of smuggling....

[Kurbanfan]

Oh I gamble a bit, mostly pai-gow, but nowhere near enough to be rated high enough to get anything for free. Vegas for non-gamblers is all about the food. The amount of excellent eateries within the distance of a cheap airline flight is amazing. As it is, I can afford to pay for drinks so that's never been a real problem.

 

Gotcha! I'm not a foodie......and getting compt drinks has nothing to do with affordability;)

[ava_girl_123]

Some possibly are:

 

1. People getting more inebriated then what they would have been and causing problems.

 

2. More alcohol related injuries both for the drinker and others.

 

3. Less revenue for the ship.

 

Which all adds up to the Cruise line taking a hit. So the cruise line makes a rule to cover themselves then attempts to enforce it. As more and more people circumvent this rule more checks and balances will be put in place along with more rules.

 

Do you see the outcome?

 

Im not saying you or anyone else here will get drunk punch a porter and throw up in the kiddie pool then fall over board. (well maybe Kurb IM KIDDING) but you asked and at the rate people attempt to push the envelope I could see this happening.

 

 

 

I think you are missing one point: A smuggler is going to drink as much as they drink regardless if they smuggle or not.. Example, I have stated that on vacation, from say noon, I can drink approx 6 to 8 drinks till about 1:00 in the morning.. If I were to smuggle 2 bottles onto the ship, lets say that gets me 2 days worth of drinks.. On the 3rd, I run out of my own booze..I will then continue my 6 to 8 drinks of "purchased" alcohol from the ship...

The second example you stated goes along with my first response.. You can get a 110 lb woman who is drunk off of 2 drinks slip and fall on the Lido deck, while some 200 lb smuggling man who downs a case on the ship not fall once, so that example is null and void to me..

The cruise ship revenue? Again, reading all the way back from the original post on this thread, I think it has been established that the cruise lines over the last 20 years or so have grown, and smuggling has been taking place since then..

[Kurbanfan]

Thats the only thing I have issue with. It MAY affect me as I am possibly going to be there when something happens when it could have been avoided by that someone following the rules.

 

 

Ok........what in the world could possibly happen that would affect you on a cruise due to someone smuggling:confused:

[LordKrystic]

Gotcha! I'm not a foodie......and getting compt drinks has nothing to do with affordability;)

 

So how do you get comped drinks if you're not gambling? I'm curious because we go fairly often but have never really heard or seen comped drinks other than when gambling.

[Aknot]

Do you drink on a cruise...alcohol that is?

 

Dont know. Haven't been on a cruise yet. I probably will but only a glass of wine here or there.

 

I hear it is fairly expensive so I will judge accordingly and then drink accordingly.

[fre1fred2]

This is a discussion board. I like to discuss. The issue at hand is not really up for debate. It is a rule. It should not be broken.

 

People wonder why others care they give reasons and more or less told they are "crazy".

 

To each his own applies if you can not directly correlate it with me. If you want to talk during a movie... watch it at your house dont do it at the theater where I could be.

 

Thats the only thing I have issue with. It MAY affect me as I am possibly going to be there when something happens when it could have been avoided by that someone following the rules.

 

So you want to break the rules in your home when you are the only one affected go right ahead. I could care less. However when there is a chance that me or my family could be you darn right I will say something and speak up.

 

 

But that's it...smuggling DOESN'T affect you. As far as revenue, Someone smuggling doesn't affect you anymore than someone not drinking.

[jfulcher]

I think you are missing one point: A smuggler is going to drink as much as they drink regardless if they smuggle or not.. Example, I have stated that on vacation, from say noon, I can drink approx 6 to 8 drinks till about 1:00 in the morning.. If I were to smuggle 2 bottles onto the ship, lets say that gets me 2 days worth of drinks.. On the 3rd, I run out of my own booze..I will then continue my 6 to 8 drinks of "purchased" alcohol from the ship...

 

The second example you stated goes along with my first response.. You can get a 110 lb woman who is drunk off of 2 drinks slip and fall on the Lido deck, while some 200 lb smuggling man who downs a case on the ship not fall once, so that example is null and void to me..

 

The cruise ship revenue? Again, reading all the way back from the original post on this thread, I think it has been established that the cruise lines over the last 20 years or so have grown, and smuggling has been taking place since then..

 

Not the case at all. I'm not going to drink as much if I'm paying $7 a drink or $6 a beer. However if I've already got my buzz on i'm more likely to start purchasing a larger quantity of $6-7 drinks and shot for friends etc. I'll never get to that point paying $6-7 a drink.

 

That's not even counting the income they earn from the casino on me either. Won't happen as much if I"m paying for each drink. Just ask Harrah's Vegas & Harrah's Cherokee for the difference in how I gamble when I can/can't get free drinks.

 

I know this is a difficult concept for a non or light drinker to understand. :D

 

6-8 drinks in 12 hours? LOL If I can smuggle I'm more likely to buy that in a 3 hour period. If I don't then 6-8 might be all they get in a 12 hour period.

[floridacruzin]

This is a discussion board. I like to discuss. The issue at hand is not really up for debate. It is a rule. It should not be broken.

 

People wonder why others care they give reasons and more or less told they are "crazy".

 

To each his own applies if you can not directly correlate it with me. If you want to talk during a movie... watch it at your house dont do it at the theater where I could be.

 

Thats the only thing I have issue with. It MAY affect me as I am possibly going to be there when something happens when it could have been avoided by that someone following the rules.

 

So you want to break the rules in your home when you are the only one affected go right ahead. I could care less. However when there is a chance that me or my family could be you darn right I will say something and speak up.

 

Did someone hit you on the head with a rumrunner?

 

You should worry about yourself....and not what others are doing...On the cruises that I have been on..I am sure alcohol was smuggled, actually I know it was bc I brought some on..... my family and I have been safe. This really will not affect you on your cruise...

 

Are you going to turn people in from your roll call for smuggling?

[Kurbanfan]

did someone hit you on the head with a rumrunner?

 

 

 

roflmao!!!!

[scchasgal]

Ok........what in the world could possibly happen that would affect you on a cruise due to someone smuggling:confused:

 

 

Kurb he/she has never even been on a cruise so they wouldn't even have any idea what to expect. One hundred drunks rolling around causing havoc? I think not, in all my cruises it has never happened.

[steveNcindy]

So by you breaking the rules "just because" you don't think it could possibly have an adverse effect on those that do not?

 

You dont think speeding may have an adverse effect on someone else?

 

If you answer no then you would be wrong. There is a reason as you stated rules are in place. They dont just put them there to inconvenience you. So when those rules are broken something has to be affected. Maybe not at that minute, hour or day but possibly some time down the line.

 

Hence the reason the rule is there. That is why I care.

 

This is a discussion board. I like to discuss. The issue at hand is not really up for debate. It is a rule. It should not be broken.

 

People wonder why others care they give reasons and more or less told they are "crazy".

 

To each his own applies if you can not directly correlate it with me. If you want to talk during a movie... watch it at your house dont do it at the theater where I could be.

 

Thats the only thing I have issue with. It MAY affect me as I am possibly going to be there when something happens when it could have been avoided by that someone following the rules.

 

So you want to break the rules in your home when you are the only one affected go right ahead. I could care less. However when there is a chance that me or my family could be you darn right I will say something and speak up.

 

 

 

G'ma is that you:confused:

[Aknot]

1 & 2 can and has happened when one purchases drinks on the ship.........3 is not and has never been a proven fact;)

 

However who was responsible? Carnival for not placing measures in place. So that ding against Carnival is their fault and they should take the brunt for it.

 

However if they say well gee he was only sold 2 drinks I dont know how he got alcohol poisoning etc... It still goes bad for Carnival but it wasn't their fault.

 

In both scenarios Carnival loses overall.

[Kurbanfan]

So how do you get comped drinks if you're not gambling? I'm curious because we go fairly often but have never really heard or seen comped drinks other than when gambling.

 

Simple......go up to the bar put a 20 in a machine order a drink....cash out and leave;) Just don't make it so obvious........

[lawskool10]

Simple......go up to the bar put a 20 in a machine order a drink....cash out and leave;) Just don't make it so obvious........

OR stand around and watch someone who is gambling....

[ava_girl_123]

Not the case at all. I'm not going to drink as much if I'm paying $7 a drink or $6 a beer. However if I've already got my buzz on i'm more likely to start purchasing a larger quantity of $6-7 drinks and shot for friends etc. I'll never get to that point paying $6-7 a drink.

 

That's not even counting the income they earn from the casino on me either. Won't happen as much if I"m paying for each drink. Just ask Harrah's Vegas & Harrah's Cherokee for the difference in how I gamble when I can/can't get free drinks.

 

I know this is a difficult concept for a non or light drinker to understand. :D

 

6-8 drinks in 12 hours? LOL If I can smuggle I'm more likely to buy that in a 3 hour period. If I don't then 6-8 might be all they get in a 12 hour period.

 

 

 

Point being for me at least, we drink when we vacation, if I didn't spend a dime for my first two days of drinking, I am going to spend the $6 to drink for 8 drinks a day for the rest of the cruise.. I gamble regardless if I am drinking or not so the cruise will make money off of me in the casinos..

 

All I look for is my buzz, I am not trying to get stupid drunk..That being said, and again this is for me, once I have that nice buzz going I am cool.. I want to remember my cruise.. ;)

[LordKrystic]

Simple......go up to the bar put a 20 in a machine order a drink....cash out and leave;) Just don't make it so obvious........

 

 

 

Ahh, gotcha. There's a bank of machines at the Wynn where I do this from time to time. I actually play the 20, but very slowly. The drink service is amazing in there. If anyone is interested, it's the Wynn Megamillion machine bank(and the area around it) between Zoso Crackers and the front desk.