Carnival Holiday? Where is it now?

[Toddcan]

I sailed on the Holiday. It's small, old, etc, but we loved the cruise!

 

I know it went through major renovations, and is sailing for a Spanish-Iberian (SP?) cruise line. I found the website, but the english version of the website does not list the "Grand Holiday" as it's known now, as a member of its fleet.

 

Anyone know how you can find out pricing on this newly refurbed ship? I'm usually very internet savy and can find my way around anything, but this one stumps me. :)

 

Thanks!

[KruznKel]

I sailed on the Holiday. It's small, old, etc, but we loved the cruise!

 

I know it went through major renovations, and is sailing for a Spanish-Iberian (SP?) cruise line. I found the website, but the english version of the website does not list the "Grand Holiday" as it's known now, as a member of its fleet.

 

Anyone know how you can find out pricing on this newly refurbed ship? I'm usually very internet savy and can find my way around anything, but this one stumps me. :)

 

Thanks!

 

 

This is on wikipedia... it may help..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Holiday

[Tapi]

The Holiday is now part of Ibero Cruceros. It looks AMAZING. It's like a brand new ship!

 

You can get more information at their website http://www.iberocruceros.com

 

Keep in mind that this ship now caters to a Spanish clientele, so all activities, announcements, etc are all in spanish!

 

Usually, the price also includes roundtrip airfare from Madrid, or other cities in Spain

Edited October 15, 2010 by Tapi

[Relayer]

Be sure and check out the pictures of the "new" Holiday. Simply amazing!

 

See the link on the prior post and go to "fleet"

[BeccaBecca1713]

[caliseas]

I miss the Holiday! It was our honeymoon cruise and we loved the little ship! She looks beautiful now! Thanks for the web site/link and pic's !

[jetskier]

The funny thing is that every ship that Carnival has "purpose-built" are still sailing. Only the original two ocean liners have gone to the scrappers.

 

Tropicale------Ocean Dream-------Pullmantur------Columbia

Jubilee--------Pacific Sun---------P&O Cruises-----Australia

Celebration----Grand Celebration---Ibero Cruises----Spain

Holiday--------Grand Holiday-------Ibero Cruises----Spain

Dave

[futaba951]

http://www.slide.com/r/XDKlGsFbxz_sqxv0mcz6cmQGq2_MuldI?previous_view=lt_embedded_url

 

Holiday as she looks now.

[9876]

Wow, they did a beautiful job with her!

[mavis2222]

Wonder where the Tropicale is now....I was on her Dec 1999

Edited October 17, 2010 by david30101

[Smoofdaddy]

I hope they fixed the Holiday's listing issues. It was like this our whole cruise:eek:

 

 

 

We walked sideways and up hill all week.

[jetskier]

The funny thing is that every ship that Carnival has "purpose-built" are still sailing. Only the original two ocean liners have gone to the scrappers.

 

Tropicale------Ocean Dream-------Pullmantur------Columbia

Jubilee--------Pacific Sun---------P&O Cruises-----Australia

Celebration----Grand Celebration---Ibero Cruises----Spain

Holiday--------Grand Holiday-------Ibero Cruises----Spain

Dave

 

Wonder where the Tropicale is now....I was on her Dec 1999

 

I guess you missed my list above. Tropicale is now called the Ocean Dream sailing for a Royal Caribbean owned company Pullmantur out of Columbia. It sails to Aruba and a couple of other S. America ports.

Dave

[Bonneville02]

I thought that when Carnival's purpose built ships left the fleet, they lost their unique funnels. Tropicale and Jubilee had the surgery, but Celebration and Holiday just got new paint.

[glrounds]

Why do I have the feeling that COTTON is on the phone talking to Iberiacruceros right now while listening to Spanish tapes and looking for her passport ? :D

[glrounds]

I thought that when Carnival's purpose built ships left the fleet, they lost their unique funnels. Tropicale and Jubilee had the surgery, but Celebration and Holiday just got new paint.

 

I would guess the whaletail funnels were in good working order and the buyers wanted to keep the cost of the overhaul as low as possible, more than likely, fully realizing, the whole World will know who owned them formerly.

[Tapi]

I hope they fixed the Holiday's listing issues. It was like this our whole cruise.

 

I think that since the Holiday is an older ship, it didn't have the stabilizers that modern ships have, and that noticeable list is just how this ship rides the currents and winds (kinda like how an airplane flies at an angle "crabbing into the wind").

 

We sailed on the Holiday for a quick 4 night Cozumel getaway, and on the way south, the ship listed to the right all the way, and on the way north, the ship listed to the left!

[mavis2222]

I hope they fixed the Holiday's listing issues. It was like this our whole cruise:eek:

 

 

 

We walked sideways and up hill all week.

Thats funny..When was that taken? I would think they would cancel the trip due to safty reasons.

[jetskier]

A ship's list has nothing to do with its design unless it has balancing issues. Most of the time those can be adjusted by moving water in the ballast tanks. The issue with the Holiday and Fantasy class ships are when there are strong side winds. They tend to push a ship off course. In order to maintain course, rudder has to be applied which in turn creates a slight list.

 

 

Dave

[jetskier]

I thought that when Carnival's purpose built ships left the fleet, they lost their unique funnels. Tropicale and Jubilee had the surgery, but Celebration and Holiday just got new paint.

 

Carnival Corporation owns 50% of Ibero Cruises might have something to do with it. But then again they also own P&O which is where the Jubilee went.

 

Or they figured it was easier to just leave it alone and give it a different paint job.

Dave

[Smoofdaddy]

Thats funny..When was that taken? I would think they would cancel the trip due to safty reasons.

 

The pictures were taken in March 2009.

[Smoofdaddy]

A ship's list has nothing to do with its design unless it has balancing issues. Most of the time those can be adjusted by moving water in the ballast tanks. The issue with the Holiday and Fantasy class ships are when there are strong side winds. They tend to push a ship off course. In order to maintain course, rudder has to be applied which in turn creates a slight list.

 

 

Dave

 

When we were on the Holiday, it was not windy. It did rain the day the pictures were taken, but as for wind, it was relatively calm the whole cruise.

[Bonneville02]

I would guess the whaletail funnels were in good working order and the buyers wanted to keep the cost of the overhaul as low as possible, more than likely, fully realizing, the whole World will know who owned them formerly.

 

Carnival Corporation owns 50% of Ibero Cruises might have something to do with it. But then again they also own P&O which is where the Jubilee went.

 

Or they figured it was easier to just leave it alone and give it a different paint job.

Dave

 

Carnival went through the trouble of painting over the logo on the sides of nearly every ship in the fleet and putting the funnel on all of their advertising. This suggests that they want people to associate the whale tail with Carnival. I'd guess that modifying the funnels on two ships would really be no big expense to Carnival. The time and effort to remove one funnel and replace it with another is probably not much, and probably could be done quickly.

 

I guess glrounds may be correct about why they just painted over the Carnival livery. Change it, but leave a hint that Ibero is really a Carnival brand.

Edited October 17, 2010 by Bonneville02

[pnjkeith]

I think that since the Holiday is an older ship, it didn't have the stabilizers that modern ships have, and that noticeable list is just how this ship rides the currents and winds (kinda like how an airplane flies at an angle "crabbing into the wind").

 

We sailed on the Holiday for a quick 4 night Cozumel getaway, and on the way south, the ship listed to the right all the way, and on the way north, the ship listed to the left!

 

Not the same thing, they control list with ballast (water).

 

Stabilizers control the roll axis.

[Accountingphd]

Just in case anyone is wondering where she is today---http://us.cruiseandmaritime.com/ship/magellan

 

She has left Carnival, finishing dry dock now, and looks like an exciting first sailing (a total eclipse and northern lights). I'd love to be on her to see what has changed since my first trip on her in December 1988!

[SeaGoingDAD]

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Edited January 6, 2015 by SeaGoingDAD