Dress code.....

[Despegue]

In Continental Europe, Tuxes are seizing to exist. i've visited "formal wear" shops last week to look for a tuxedo and guess what they told me: the tuxedo is not in fashion anymore, the latest trend is to wear DESIGNER JEANS, dress shirt, tie and vest (flanel or shiny!).

Otherwise, a modern dark suit with thin black tie is also in fashion.

 

So I decided not to go for the Tux after all but remain in my black formal suit.

 

Tuxedo's REALLY are typical Anglosaxon.

[bradpole]

There are lots of cruiselines that offer at least a similar experience to Celebrity (Princess, HAL for example). Celebrity is the most formal cruiseline remaining.

 

All you casual dressers who say that the dress code is outdated; you have LOTS of choices when deciding where to cruise. The pax who love formal are very restricted with choice of cruiseline. Can't you just leave us ONE cruiseline where we can enjoy the ambiance of people being formally dressed (and no, me wearing a long gown next to your khakis is not ambiance, sorry)?

 

If you don't like it, you can have room service or go to the specialty restaurants, but for goodness' sakes stop whining. You know what you're getting into- you got information on the dress code with your ticket. If it is that unacceptable to you then you'll have to avoid the MDR- but it's not like you don't have other options.

 

Ok,

 

So the ABSOLUTE ONLY REASON one would choose Celebrity is because they have formal nights? They do NOTHING else that separates them from Carnival, NCL, HAL, Princess, etc...?

 

The reason I ask is everyone keeps saying, “Pick a different cruise line if you don’t like formal.”

 

So on the other non formal nights do you guys hide in your cabins since there are no tuxedos in the MDR?:)

Even some of the fanciest land based restaurants have given up on mandatory jacket and ties for men.

[Ma Bell]

There is no reason to choose another cruiseline. Just do what you signed up for. Dress for Formal Night or choose one of the other great options. A suit is part of the dress code so no tux necessary.

 

One of the options is not to wear whatever you want on Formal Night and go to the dining room. Even my 10 year old grandsons "get it".

 

Maybe actually sailing on a Celebrity cruise will help too.;)

[bradpole]

There is no reason to choose another cruiseline. Just do what you signed up for. Dress for Formal Night or choose one of the other great options. A suit is part of the dress code so no tux necessary.

 

One of the options is not to wear whatever you want on Formal Night and go to the dining room. Even my 10 year old grandsons "get it".

 

Maybe actually sailing on a Celebrity cruise will help too.;)

 

I do abide by formal night when I dine in the MDR, I’ve never particularly enjoyed it, but I ‘play by rules’ for dinner in the MDR.

I have never violated the requested dress code for dinner in the MDR. My position is that it is an outdated and silly concept. It should be optional [in the MDR] for those who enjoy it, what someone else wears to dinner in the MDR has no impact on the enjoyment of my dinner.

Times have changed, it is 1900 anymore. If you want to dress up in a tuxedo and gown…great, enjoy it! Just because you want to doesn’t mean everyone else on the ship should be forced to do so to have an enjoyable sit down dinner in the MDR.

[Bridge Maven]

No, it's not, Cunard is.

 

redredinghood, I agree that Cunard is more formal than Celebrity but it is also a lot more expensive. I think the point that some people are trying to make is that Celebrity is the most formal mass market cruise line that is in a price range that most cruisers can afford.

[redridinghood]

redredinghood, I agree that Cunard is more formal than Celebrity but it is also a lot more expensive. I think the point that some people are trying to make is that Celebrity is the most formal mass market cruise line that is in a price range that most cruisers can afford.

 

Not sure I agree they are more expensive. We always cruise dependant on price offers and we sailed on the QM2 for a far less price per person per day than with Celebrity. But we are in the UK and we pay more than the US in general for our cruises.

[madelinerose]

[CRUZBUDS]

I'm trying to remember if there was this much passionate discussion when semi-formal went away.

 

When we first started cruising with Celebrity there were only a couple of casual nights. If it wasn't formal night, it was semi-formal when a sport coat and tie was requested.

 

I think formal is destined to go the way of semi-formal eventually.

[Ma Bell]

I do abide by formal night when I dine in the MDR, I’ve never particularly enjoyed it, but I ‘play by rules’ for dinner in the MDR.

 

I have never violated the requested dress code for dinner in the MDR. My position is that it is an outdated and silly concept. It should be optional [in the MDR] for those who enjoy it, what someone else wears to dinner in the MDR has no impact on the enjoyment of my dinner.

 

Times have changed, it is 1900 anymore. If you want to dress up in a tuxedo and gown…great, enjoy it! Just because you want to doesn’t mean everyone else on the ship should be forced to do so to have an enjoyable sit down dinner in the MDR. [/quote

 

Where did I say everyone should dress in a tux and gown?????? With all the options available I can't imagine why anyone would even want to eat in the MDR every night. Try a little adventure if you're not too old.

[Lsimon]

Formal clothes don't automatically give a person Class.

 

A guy who drinks too much booze, doesn't look very classy in his rented tux.

 

A woman with the most expensive gown doesn't look very classy puffing on a cigarette.

 

Just my humble opinion.

 

I agree with you 100%.

On the other hand showing up to a formal event dressed casually shows a lack of class.

[tally10]

I do abide by formal night when I dine in the MDR, I’ve never particularly enjoyed it, but I ‘play by rules’ for dinner in the MDR.

 

I have never violated the requested dress code for dinner in the MDR. My position is that it is an outdated and silly concept. It should be optional [in the MDR] for those who enjoy it, what someone else wears to dinner in the MDR has no impact on the enjoyment of my dinner.

 

Times have changed, it is 1900 anymore. If you want to dress up in a tuxedo and gown…great, enjoy it! Just because you want to doesn’t mean everyone else on the ship should be forced to do so to have an enjoyable sit down dinner in the MDR.

 

Amen!

[PS90]

There is no reason to choose another cruiseline. Just do what you signed up for. Dress for Formal Night or choose one of the other great options. A suit is part of the dress code so no tux necessary.

 

One of the options is not to wear whatever you want on Formal Night and go to the dining room. Even my 10 year old grandsons "get it".

 

Maybe actually sailing on a Celebrity cruise will help too.;)

 

I guess what I can't understand is the ongoing insinuation by the "pro-formal" crowd, that everyone who wants to do away with formal nights are also the same people who blatantly ignore the dress code as it exists now, and are always wearing flip flops and tank tops into the MDR, all the while giving the middle finger to the maitre d'.

 

The "anti-formal" crowd is merely trying to make a point that the out-dated idea of "formal nights" is no longer needed on Celebrity. The OP asked if casual clothes were okay in the casino, and since then, I haven't read a single post that says "Screw you all, I'm just wearing shorts to formal night dinner". In fact, almost every post by an "anti-formal" person makes a point of saying that they plan to FOLLOW the dress code, whether they like it or not.

 

So once again, it is simple and easy for us to assume another person with the opposite point of view, and who happens to be an anonymous poster on an internet forum, is the "bad guy", but it's really quite a bit more complicated than that.

[Ma Bell]

There are only a couple of evenings that are formal. There are plenty of options available on Celebrity if one doesn't want to participate. There are plenty of cruiselines for those who don't want to participate. Maybe you can explain why the non-formal crowd find it necessary to completely do away with one of the great traditions of cruising rather than just adapting to a very few moments in a cruise.

 

Seems a bit selfish to me.

 

Are we going to be so completely homogenized that the only thing available in the world is casual dining and casual entertainment? How sad.

[Ma Bell]

I guess what I can't understand is the ongoing insinuation by the "pro-formal" crowd, that everyone who wants to do away with formal nights are also the same people who blatantly ignore the dress code as it exists now, and are always wearing flip flops and tank tops into the MDR, all the while giving the middle finger to the maitre d'.

 

The "anti-formal" crowd is merely trying to make a point that the out-dated idea of "formal nights" is no longer needed on Celebrity. The OP asked if casual clothes were okay in the casino, and since then, I haven't read a single post that says "Screw you all, I'm just wearing shorts to formal night dinner". In fact, almost every post by an "anti-formal" person makes a point of saying that they plan to FOLLOW the dress code, whether they like it or not.

 

So once again, it is simple and easy for us to assume another person with the opposite point of view, and who happens to be an anonymous poster on an internet forum, is the "bad guy", but it's really quite a bit more complicated than that.

 

 

I have no idea what this has to do with anything I've ever said.

[Beachspider]

This will be my first time cruising on a Celebrity So looking forward to being on the Equinox I do like the idea of a dress code Isn't that part of the fun of cruising!! When they say "formal" night it does not mean long "gowns" ugh It's nice to dress up for a lovely dinner Use some common sense Flip flops, shorts etc are meant for the pool and beach If you can't "dress accordingly" you might as well stay on the beach somewhere!! I for one am a huge beach lover However, there is a time and place for everything Remember the old saying "that person sure does not have a mirror handy"

[bradpole]

There are only a couple of evenings that are formal. There are plenty of options available on Celebrity if one doesn't want to participate. There are plenty of cruiselines for those who don't want to participate. Maybe you can explain why the non-formal crowd find it necessary to completely do away with one of the great traditions of cruising rather than just adapting to a very few moments in a cruise.

 

Seems a bit selfish to me.

 

Are we going to be so completely homogenized that the only thing available in the world is casual dining and casual entertainment? How sad.

 

"There are plenty of cruiselines for those who don't want to participate..." So you're saying THE ONLY THING that sets Celebrity apart from EVERY other cruiseline is formal night?

 

If there was no such thing as formal night you could still dress up, you can never be over dressed! There is nothing stopping people who want to dress formally to dress formally every night of the cruise!

[tally10]

This will be my first time cruising on a Celebrity So looking forward to being on the Equinox I do like the idea of a dress code Isn't that part of the fun of cruising!! When they say "formal" night it does not mean long "gowns" ugh It's nice to dress up for a lovely dinner Use some common sense Flip flops, shorts etc are meant for the pool and beach If you can't "dress accordingly" you might as well stay on the beach somewhere!! I for one am a huge beach lover However, there is a time and place for everything Remember the old saying "that person sure does not have a mirror handy"

 

We have been on 4 two week cruises on Celebrity and I do have to say that you don't have to worry about flip flops and shorts, etc. in the dining room. I have NEVER seen that, no matter if it is formal night or not. I have not seen anyone trying to get into the dining room dressed like that. The buffet, yes. Although I would personally like to see the formal nights go away, we are not beach people (too much skin cancer in the family from growing up in Florida). I don't think if they modified the dress code to make formal nights optional, I personally don't think it will make people run to put their shorts and flip flops for dinner (although some sandals look like flip flops even paired with a dress or capris, which are "permitted" in the MDR). Rest easy.

[Ma Bell]

"There are plenty of cruiselines for those who don't want to participate..." So you're saying THE ONLY THING that sets Celebrity apart from EVERY other cruiseline is formal night?

 

If there was no such thing as formal night you could still dress up, you can never be over dressed! There is nothing stopping people who want to dress formally to dress formally every night of the cruise!

 

You have a strange way of commenting on things that I don't say.

[bradpole]

You have a strange way of commenting on things that I don't say.

 

All the fuss about formal night makes it seem that there would NO other reason to sail Celebrity compared to other lines.

[PS90]

I have no idea what this has to do with anything I've ever said.

 

So you're trying to tell me that your quote "One of the options is not to wear whatever you want on Formal Night and go to the dining room. Even my 10 year old grandsons "get it"", was NOT implying that the "anti-formal" people don't want to follow the rules?

 

I guess I must have mis-interpreted this sentence, although it seems obvious what it is hinting at...

[bradpole]

So you're trying to tell me that your quote "One of the options is not to wear whatever you want on Formal Night and go to the dining room. Even my 10 year old grandsons "get it"", was NOT implying that the "anti-formal" people don't want to follow the rules?

 

I guess I must have mis-interpreted this sentence, although it seems obvious what it is hinting at...

 

Also,

 

I am not advocating shorts or t shirts in the MDR. I'm saying Kakhi's and polo shirts as a min.

[PS90]

Also,

 

I am not advocating shorts or t shirts in the MDR. I'm saying Kakhi's and polo shirts as a min.

 

I totally agree with you.

 

That was my point in my last couple of posts - there are very few (and none who are contributing to this thread, as far as I can tell) of us "anti-formal" people who absolutely will NOT follow the current rules, by wearing whatever we want to the MDR. So, when posters who want to keep the formal dress code imply that we do want to break the rules, then they are only doing so in order to make us sound like the "evil" side of the argument. And that's simply not true.

[Big Thunder]

I will be going on my first celebrity cruise in a couple of weeks. I will be wearing a suit on each of the formal nights but on the other five nights plan on wearing khaki pants short sleeved button down shirts (Tommy bahana or similar) or polo shirts along with closed toe shoes (top siders). Is this typical?

 

Tom

[BeinKc]

On the second formal night we have reservations at Q. Do we need to wear formal for this venue or will we be okay wearing the resort casual?

[PS90]

On the second formal night we have reservations at Q. Do we need to wear formal for this venue or will we be okay wearing the resort casual?

 

No formal dress code in the Specialty Restaurants, the "Smart Casual and Above" rule applies every day.