Profane balcony neighbors

[SJ27]

And people dread kids on a cruise. Personally, it's the loud, drunk adults that drive me crazy.

 

Now I'm worried about my (very well behaved) toddler learning bad language from our neighbors on the cruise!!! :eek:

[scottydog123]

I have been on Carnival, Princess RC and Celebrity

So what type of cruiser am I?

 

A Savy Shopper - and no I don't choose carnival because I want to have more money to spend on Drinking or Gambling.. :mad:

 

 

It was never my intention to trash the poor. Not even close. My point is I don't want to sail with Carnival types on Princess. My perception of Carnival types is those who like to get a low price on a cabin so they can spend their money on drinking and gambling. They probably spend more total on their cruise than we do. Now some say the cruise lines want to attract these people because of their high onboard spending. However, when you get rude and obnoxious people, this can alienate loyal cruisers. Is this really a good marketing strategy? Shouldn't Princess continue to differentiate itself from Carnival? Is it really that important to fill every cabin? Will Princess still make enough money on people who smuggle booze on board and order a dozen orange juices from room service for breakfast to offset the losses from their neighbors who may vow to never book another balcony cabin or maybe even never book another Princess cruise? Had the problem with my neighbors not been resolved, this would have been my last Princess cruise. As it is, I continue to strongly consider Celebrity, but will still sail Princess for certain routes.

 

I was checking the cabin availability on my sailing in the days leading up to the cruise. Inside cabins were the only category still available. Then one day all the onside cabins were gone. What does this mean? How might this affect the onboard experience?

[Toddy709]

Now I'm worried about my (very well behaved) toddler learning bad language from our neighbors on the cruise!!! :eek:

 

If you worry about every complaint posted on these boards you would never cruise:rolleyes:. As far as balcony profanity, if it is more than just an "isolated incident", I would imagine a call to the passenger services desk would help.

[gingera]

Frankly, I am surprised they quieted down so quickly. So many times it take countless complaints, and then sometimes that doesn't do it.

Inconsiderate, intitlement and alcohol can make for a bad mix. I'm glad the cruise wasn't ruined.

[shepp]

I suppose it's worth adding that some immensively cruel and thoughtless people would never let anything stronger than "dang" escape their lips, while many delightful, polite people are fond of the usual Anglo-Saxonisms, and though they may try to behave themselves in "polite company," poo-poo doth happen. After all, a lot of the "forbidden word" stuff stems from class-based snobbery. (See: Eliza Doolittle and "bloody," a word that was once literally unspeakable among the upper-class English.) And lest we forget, Shakespeare himself gets so raunchy that his works were censored.

 

When I was talking to a Princess customer-service rep, I let slip that the fare on my cabin had, since my payment, "gone way the hell up," and was schoolmarmishly chastized that "there's no need to curse."

 

Ooh, my bad! I meant to say "H-E-double-hockey-sticks."

[mina]

I am the child of a ditch digger and a housecleaner. I have a phd in psychology, an unrelated masters, completed two years of law school and earn mucho $$ working for a highly respected major company. I love nascar, enjoy a good demolition derby and can sing most country music songs. I smoke. Does that make me a "carnival type?" Perhaps there are "redeeming" factors in that I don't drink. I have read the greek classics, I speak a little Russian, I have traveled the world while living in southeast asia, I rescue abused dogs, I volunteer at a shelter and I held each of my babies as they went to the rainbow bridge. I say all this because -- folks -- People are not that simple. Anyone who judges others by their stereotypes misses a great opportunity to expand their understanding of the world. They can also miss the chance to politely address things that bother them (swearing, excessive smoking) due to stereotypic fears. Comments related to the number of rings someone wears, how long their finger nails are as the puff their smoke indicates a bias against those with other values or expressive styles. Assessing someone that way implies that they are lessor beings. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There are many situations, habits that annoy or even harm us. That is the price of living in civilized society.

[DrSch]

I am the child of a ditch digger and a housecleaner. I have a phd in psychology, an unrelated masters, completed two years of law school and earn mucho $$ working for a highly respected major company. I love nascar, enjoy a good demolition derby and can sing most country music songs. I smoke. Does that make me a "carnival type?" Perhaps there are "redeeming" factors in that I don't drink. I have read the greek classics, I speak a little Russian, I have traveled the world while living in southeast asia, I rescue abused dogs, I volunteer at a shelter and I held each of my babies as they went to the rainbow bridge. I say all this because -- folks -- People are not that simple. Anyone who judges others by their stereotypes misses a great opportunity to expand their understanding of the world. They can also miss the chance to politely address things that bother them (swearing, excessive smoking) due to stereotypic fears. Comments related to the number of rings someone wears, how long their finger nails are as the puff their smoke indicates a bias against those with other values or expressive styles. Assessing someone that way implies that they are lessor beings. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There are many situations, habits that annoy or even harm us. That is the price of living in civilized society.

 

 

^^ this

 

You can come hang out on a cruise with me anytime.. The group on the last cruise I was on was the grumpiest and frumpiest people I have ever seen. Everyone walked around with a frown and constantly complained. My partner and I were laughing and met enough fun people to make the week amazing. I wish the others on the ship could have enjoyed themselves instead of worrying about what was wrong.

 

Next time someone uses profane language or says something loudly that upsets you on the balcony.. do what we do.. just yell HUSH!! to them. Or HUSH.. WOMAN!! (regardless if they are male or female) if they don't get the idea.

[mina]

I agree Dr Sch! Well put!

[wizard-of-roz]

Now I'm worried about my (very well behaved) toddler learning bad language from our neighbors on the cruise!!! :eek:

 

Your child will not be babysat or live with these folks. Children learn what they live not what a "passerby" may do or say. Your child has you to reassure him/her that the words and behaviors of others may be rude and unacceptable and to please ignore it!

[wizard-of-roz]

I have been on Carnival, Princess RC and Celebrity

So what type of cruiser am I?

 

A Savy Shopper - and no I don't choose carnival because I want to have more money to spend on Drinking or Gambling.. :mad:

 

Open minded.....I'm sure!

[musicgal]

Well, that's us I guess. No, really- I know what you mean... but we are just a few minutes away from Galveston where Ecstasy and Conquest dock- and our cruises are cruises of convenience for the most part. Our cruise philosophy is nicer cabins, fewer cruises. I don't know how to gamble (been meaning to learn how to do something at least). We don't smoke. Would handle the noise from a profane neighbor with a little aria from La Boheme. Can't get as high as I used to, but it would drive them nuts:D We do drink though... although, even though my doctor tells me I drink too much, I could never justify packing rumrunners...I'd die of alcohol poisoning. No, seriously. I wish for all of you, good neighbors and a peaceful cruise. And no, I'll never be offended by smitings of Carnival- for us it's a good value and a cruise is what YOU make it.:)

[countrycruzr]

I am the child of a ditch digger and a housecleaner. I have a phd in psychology, an unrelated masters, completed two years of law school and earn mucho $$ working for a highly respected major company. I love nascar, enjoy a good demolition derby and can sing most country music songs. I smoke. Does that make me a "carnival type?" Perhaps there are "redeeming" factors in that I don't drink. I have read the greek classics, I speak a little Russian, I have traveled the world while living in southeast asia, I rescue abused dogs, I volunteer at a shelter and I held each of my babies as they went to the rainbow bridge. I say all this because -- folks -- People are not that simple. Anyone who judges others by their stereotypes misses a great opportunity to expand their understanding of the world. They can also miss the chance to politely address things that bother them (swearing, excessive smoking) due to stereotypic fears. Comments related to the number of rings someone wears, how long their finger nails are as the puff their smoke indicates a bias against those with other values or expressive styles. Assessing someone that way implies that they are lessor beings. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There are many situations, habits that annoy or even harm us. That is the price of living in civilized society.

 

Awesome! People who pigeonhole others do everyone a great disservice, including themselves and miss out on meeting people and learning a lot of priceless things.

 

I've known millionaires who dress like homeless people and poor folks who dress like royalty. I've know rich lushes and poor lushes, well bred, well raised souls who swear like sailors and very religious people who don't attend church. I am the educated one in my marriage, hubby doesn't even have a degree, yet I'm the happy housewife and he's the one that makes the buku bucks!

 

I must confess that I have a real problem with wanting to poke people who engage in stereotyping and snobbery and just plain narrow mindedness. When so many people complain about how the 'lowlifes' who don't dress for formal night 'ruin their cruise', I am tempted to wear jeans or shorts and parade in front of them and when they complain about swearing on their balconies I want to unleash with some stuff that would make a rocker blush! I usually resist, most of the time, but sometimes the temptation is just too great! :D People like that need to lighten up!

[Amadawn1]

Thank you Mina, countrycruzr and musicgal. I find your posts/comments on this subject to be very well written and refreshing.

[west coast cruiser]

Maybe they blankin' passed out? LOL :D

 

This is good!!!

[sultan_sfo]

If one's native language is not English it is more tension relieving to let it all out in one's native language which in most Eastern Languages is more descriptive and more expletive.

 

Carry an ear plug with you!

[shepp]

If one's native language is not English it is more tension relieving to let it all out in one's native language which in most Eastern Languages is more descriptive and more expletive.

 

Carry an ear plug with you!

 

Next time we cruise together, you'll have to teach me some good South Asian curse words!

[MAZANDSTEVE]

We are just back from the Sapphire. We had a mini suite and were so sad when we stepped out on our balcony and heard our neighbors. The woman was very loud and loved adjectives, but only knew one. Example: "the atrium is just a blankin mall.". When she sneezed people several levels above and several cabins aft said "bless you." She responded, "oh, you can hear me" and others in an even more distant cabin answered "so can we." Her male companion responded by bellowing that they need blessings not for sneezing but in the blankin casino. And they both became louder and more profane (that is more frequency, not more variety). The woman then threw the remainder of the contents of her glass overboard. I turned my iPod all the way up and tried to enjoy sail away. The next morning, when leaving for breakfast, a tray of at least a dozen glasses of orange juice was delivered to their room. Juice is only free at breakfast. Then she popped her head out the door and yelled for the cabin steward to bring her ice. I feared they planned to spend all day on their balcony drinking and cursing. After breakfast, I reviewed the Princess policy on noise, it only stated that we keep the TV down at night. There was no formal policy about loud cursing. So I wasn't sure if calling the front desk would help. But I am sure someone did report them because after breakfast they were quiet at church mice for the rest of the trip. Thank you to whoever made the call.

 

 

Maybe they were just over excited on the first day.:)

[Happy ks]

Wow, this thread has come full circle from trashing the poor to bashing the rich! Is one kind of trashing/bashing any better than the other???:eek:

 

I think many people (including myself) don't think financial standing has anything to do with class. Rich or poor can be snobs, rich or poor can be gracious. I happen to think pretty much like your second sentence, people who are criticizing well dressed people, calling them "fashionistas" or "snobs" are just as bad in attitude as people who look down their noses at those dressed in a more casual way.

 

I've learned my lesson many times over. From the tatooed, pierced guy who showed up to install our doors a few years ago, he couldn't have been more polite. Or the young man coming into the store I work in, wearing flip flops, ratty shorts and a T, laid down a titanium AMEX card to pay for several Tumi pieces and he was very sweet to his wife and small child. Then there are the people who come in dressed to the nines, some are polite and kind, some are rude and obnoxious. You never know. I try to see the best in others until they prove me wrong.

 

I think we just shouldn't pass judgement on anyone until we have a conversation with them, or observe how they treat others. We are all pre-judged by our appearance, none of us can help that. But we need to wait and see what the people are like as individuals. I also think we shouldn't judge people by the cruise line they prefer, or the stores where they shop or the music/sports/activities they enjoy. It's just people.

[Ldyandrea]

Yes, this is my concern. Lower prices are not always a good thing!

 

True, but I've also met plenty of wealthy people who were far more obnoxious and self-entitled than those of more moderate incomes.

[itzmered]

Awesome! People who pigeonhole others do everyone a great disservice, including themselves and miss out on meeting people and learning a lot of priceless things.

 

I've known millionaires who dress like homeless people and poor folks who dress like royalty. I've know rich lushes and poor lushes, well bred, well raised souls who swear like sailors and very religious people who don't attend church. I am the educated one in my marriage, hubby doesn't even have a degree, yet I'm the happy housewife and he's the one that makes the buku bucks!

 

I must confess that I have a real problem with wanting to poke people who engage in stereotyping and snobbery and just plain narrow mindedness. When so many people complain about how the 'lowlifes' who don't dress for formal night 'ruin their cruise', I am tempted to wear jeans or shorts and parade in front of them and when they complain about swearing on their balconies I want to unleash with some stuff that would make a rocker blush! I usually resist, most of the time, but sometimes the temptation is just too great! :D People like that need to lighten up!

 

I would love to cruise with you :D