coolsky1994 Posted June 16, 2011 #1 Share Posted June 16, 2011 If they are generally the same ships, why would they be switching spots, just doesnt make much sense to me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemon Posted June 16, 2011 #2 Share Posted June 16, 2011 This is done every few years to give people that cruise out of a local port like me (Tampa) a change of pace on the decor of the ship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerCoasterLover Posted June 16, 2011 #3 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Another reason is for upgrades and refurbishments. The Paradise is needing to get the waterworks area and evolutions of fun. These things are added in drydock. Inspiration already has these things and can be positioned on the west coast for a while. (Most of the time, the drydock occurs in the Bahamas area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiseboy06 Posted June 16, 2011 #4 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Another reason is for upgrades and refurbishments. The Paradise is needing to get the waterworks area and evolutions of fun. These things are added in drydock. Inspiration already has these things and can be positioned on the west coast for a while. (Most of the time, the drydock occurs in the Bahamas area). Paradise is not getting waterworks. John Heald stated this a while back. Whenever a cruise ship needs go into drydock they usually go to the closest drydock facility. They usually switch ships every few years to a new homeport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted June 16, 2011 #5 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The Paradise went through a dry dock in SF in 2008/09. http://www.*****.com/journals/savvy_ship_visits/2008/carnival_paradise_western_mexico_1208 Sometimes ships needing a dry dock do go to the closest, but not always , as different yards and facilities do different things. Also its usually a bidding process and if the closest yard facility is not the cheapest then the ship will often be rotated closer to the eventual dry dock. Perhaps the Inspirations water works were needed more on the Mexican riveria as opposed to the W carribean? It also allows for Panama canal cruises which actually serve a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Lover Posted June 16, 2011 #6 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Actually, none of the replies in this thread (so far) have hit on the real reason that the two sister ships are switching places. You'll find the answer here The link takes you to an article quoting Terry Thornton, Carnival's senior vice president of market planning, who discusses how Carnival decides where to place its ships. He specifically mentions the Inspiration/Paradise switch and how it was done to save on fuel costs. The Paradise has Azipods, which the Inspiration does not... and that makes the Paradise cheaper to operate on itineraries that involve long distances. The Inspiration is more suitable for the Southern California circuit which involves very few miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwabob Posted June 16, 2011 #7 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Actually, none of the replies in this thread (so far) have hit on the real reason that the two sister ships are switching places. You'll find the answer here The link takes you to an article quoting Terry Thornton, Carnival's senior vice president of market planning, who discusses how Carnival decides where to place its ships. He specifically mentions the Inspiration/Paradise switch and how it was done to save on fuel costs. The Paradise has Azipods, which the Inspiration does not... and that makes the Paradise cheaper to operate on itineraries that involve long distances. The Inspiration is more suitable for the Southern California circuit which involves very few miles. I had suspected something similar, but I didn't know that the Azipods were really that much more fuel efficient. I'm glad to see a change of scenery though at the Port of Tampa. The Inspiration was one of the first ships I ever sailed on growing up, along with the Sensation when it was operating out of Tampa. I welcome the Paradise and it's extra pool at the back instead of the waterworks. Hopefully I'll be sailing on her next fall if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Didly Posted June 16, 2011 #8 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Actually, none of the replies in this thread (so far) have hit on the real reason that the two sister ships are switching places. You'll find the answer here The link takes you to an article quoting Terry Thornton, Carnival's senior vice president of market planning, who discusses how Carnival decides where to place its ships. He specifically mentions the Inspiration/Paradise switch and how it was done to save on fuel costs. The Paradise has Azipods, which the Inspiration does not... and that makes the Paradise cheaper to operate on itineraries that involve long distances. The Inspiration is more suitable for the Southern California circuit which involves very few miles. That being the case why is the Legend still in Tampa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwabob Posted June 16, 2011 #9 Share Posted June 16, 2011 That being the case why is the Legend still in Tampa ? Well, the Legend has Azipods along with all the Spirit class ships. Also there is the bigger issue of that pesky Sunshine Skyway bridge into Tampa Bay that the Fantasy and Spirit class ships can squeeze under, but not the bigger ships. They've had no problems keeping the Legend full, and I think it's a good match for the port even though it repeats the same itinerary over and over. Both the Paradise and the Legend will hopefully continue to serve lots of happy passengers from the Port of Tampa for years to come. Also when you think about it, the run from Cozumel back to Tampa has to be done at a pretty good pace. There's 500 nmi or so between the two, so the efficiency factor is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujobie Posted June 16, 2011 #10 Share Posted June 16, 2011 That being the case why is the Legend still in Tampa ? The legend wasn't always here. We used to have Miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusinpsychRN Posted June 16, 2011 #11 Share Posted June 16, 2011 When is the switch taking place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujobie Posted June 16, 2011 #12 Share Posted June 16, 2011 When is the switch taking place? December I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolsky1994 Posted June 16, 2011 Author #13 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hmmm ok, it kinda makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinchem Posted June 16, 2011 #14 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Why is the change taking place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencercoop Posted June 16, 2011 #15 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Why is the change taking place? See post 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencercoop Posted June 16, 2011 #16 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Actually, none of the replies in this thread (so far) have hit on the real reason that the two sister ships are switching places. You'll find the answer here The link takes you to an article quoting Terry Thornton, Carnival's senior vice president of market planning, who discusses how Carnival decides where to place its ships. He specifically mentions the Inspiration/Paradise switch and how it was done to save on fuel costs. The Paradise has Azipods, which the Inspiration does not... and that makes the Paradise cheaper to operate on itineraries that involve long distances. The Inspiration is more suitable for the Southern California circuit which involves very few miles. Interesting article. Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxamuus Posted June 16, 2011 #17 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I know i am excited to see her come out west. She looks like a much nicer ship after all the upgrades to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Lover Posted June 17, 2011 #18 Share Posted June 17, 2011 When is the switch taking place? The Paradise will arrive in Tampa on December 12th and the Inspiration will arrive in Long Beach on December 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted June 17, 2011 #19 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The Paradise will arrive in Tampa on December 12th and the Inspiration will arrive in Long Beach on December 17th. We are taking the Paradise on that Dec 12 trip, should be interesting as it will be coming off that long Panama Canal trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunsWithFlyingDolphins Posted June 17, 2011 #20 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Glad the Paradise is going into Dry Dock. Should be nice to see what they do with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaParrotHead Posted June 17, 2011 #21 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Actually, none of the replies in this thread (so far) have hit on the real reason that the two sister ships are switching places. You'll find the answer here The link takes you to an article quoting Terry Thornton, Carnival's senior vice president of market planning, who discusses how Carnival decides where to place its ships. He specifically mentions the Inspiration/Paradise switch and how it was done to save on fuel costs. The Paradise has Azipods, which the Inspiration does not... and that makes the Paradise cheaper to operate on itineraries that involve long distances. The Inspiration is more suitable for the Southern California circuit which involves very few miles. @Spaniel Lover. There is one other good reason for the swap, I have always wanted a 14-day repo cruise with only a single outbound flight.. Bring it on, can't wait. (know about Boykins?) B&B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jking917 Posted June 17, 2011 #22 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I'm really excited about the switch. I am going on Paradise this August and then over Christmas weekend we will be on the Inspiration. It will be nice to have a change. From those of you who have been on Inspiration how is the decor different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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