Complaining about kids???

[RRLLAL]

You can't be serious.....I said "even pushing an elevator button can be a hardship on people...there are people with mobility problems that cannot take stairs". His accusation was "stopping an extra floor will hurt you"? directed at me......not worded the same, not even the same meaning......now YOU quit playing games.........

 

Sorry, not playing games. You at least 3 times accused the poster of claiming you said all those things. You missed the words "do you also" and now can't admit it.

[MissDiva1]

i can't believe this thread has gone this far and gotten this heated...

 

when my friend posted a thread looking for activities/events that were more adult and less child oriented, SHE was bashed as a child hater, and then her thread got deleted. :rolleyes:

 

Well as you can see.......some people either can't comprehend or they are so insecure in their lives that they just accuse people of things they are not .......

[MissDiva1]

Sorry, not playing games. You at least 3 times accused the poster of claiming you said all those things. You missed the words "do you also" and now can't admit it.

 

Didn't accuse anyone of anything....it was simply a statement and a question;) I even said please.....

[Mamma Jamma Cruiser]

If I'm in the steakhouse and someone's kid is raising hell I wouldn't have a problem with it if the parents were taking action. Sadly though, too many parents are oblivious to it.

 

You are so right.. My kids are grown now, but when they were little if they were tossing a fit, they were taken right away from the area. When they were babies tossing a fit, they were taken right away from the area.. there was no "process".. there was getting up and taking them elsewhere, and THEN finding a way to placate them. After 32 years in the Service Industry, I have seen too many parents not bother to take action because they "don't notice" the noise. They have become used to it. Unfortunately, I haven't..

 

I did find the comment about being jealous quite laughable. I am certainly NOT jealous of anyone else's "cohesive" family.. I have my own thanks. Although we didn't take our kids with us on cruise vacations, (these are for us.. summer trips were for the kids) I think that is a desperate, sad statement to make and that certainly doesn't give me any reason to be jealous... good thing the commentator wasn't a carpenter.. cause that nail didn't get hit on the head.. not even close! :p

 

And although I would never let kids (unruly OR well behaved) ruin my cruise, I am also one of those people who won't hesitate to speak up if I am being bothered to the point of inconvenience by someone else's child, such as pushing every elevator button.. It's a lack of manners and respect for those around them, and I never tolerated that from my kids.. I'm not gonna take it from anyone else's... just sayin' ;)

[WendyCn]

IMHO - The bottom line is....manners & respect from all ages whether I am on vacation, at work, at home, anywhere.

[rumpelstiltskin]

(yes I know some will answer "if you want a relaxing vacation take Celebrity, Princess", etc. some people may only be able to afford Carnival)

 

Heard a Princess cruise director state once that on a particular July sailing, there were 800 children onboard.

He compared it to "Lord of the Flies".:D

[rumpelstiltskin]

On a more somber note, we should always be courteous and respectful to other passengers because we don't always know why they are taking the cruise.

 

We were seated at a large table, and one of our dining companions was sailing solo.

 

She was staying in the Presidential suite (which has a doorbell), and told about the herds of unsupervised brats that rang her doorbell at all hours of the night.

 

She is a Gold Star Mother, & her only child was killed in Iraq just a few months earlier.

[IwannaGo Now]

Fr. Flanagan once said "There is no such thing as a bad kid", I believe. BUT there are tons of bad PARENTS. Kids are not born with manners, or any other skills.....As mammals, they have to be taught life's skills. Too often they are not taught, nor have they learned by example.

I've often had the urge to get up in the MDR when kids are behaving badly, (and not being addressed by the parent), and start singing very loudly, "99 bottles of beer on the wall" until either the kid stops, or the parent does something to rectify the situation......98 bottles of beer....

[Vanessa L]

On a more somber note, we should always be courteous and respectful to other passengers because we don't always know why they are taking the cruise.

 

We were seated at a large table, and one of our dining companions was sailing solo.

 

She was staying in the Presidential suite (which has a doorbell), and told about the herds of unsupervised brats that rang her doorbell at all hours of the night.

 

She is a Gold Star Mother, & her only child was killed in Iraq just a few months earlier.

 

To the OP....THIS is why people complain about children. I have had kids run up and down the halls on some of our cruises also. I was not bothered to the point where I stepped out in the hall to fix the situation (they would NOT have wanted that), but I can see where someone with less patience would be bothered beyond words. There is zero excuse for this. But we right it off as ok because the "parents are ignorant".

[crusinpsychRN]

i think the only thing that would ruin my cruise is a fire or the ship sinking.

 

I want to cruise with you!:D

[theneals4]

LOL!! Your worried about the 20-25 year olds..... on this past cruise, there was a higher up telling a lady that her behavior would not be tolerated. And she needed to calm down. No lie lady had to be 55-60 years old. Lots of OLDER people that were drunk as a skunk being loud. But whatever these things dont bother me. Kids really didnt even bother me. I guess because i have a 2 and 3 year old. im use to the insanity.

 

I did have one teenager, that saw me walking around with a Adult drink and he asked if i would buy him one. I looked at him said would he like a coke or a sprite. He just looked at me like huh?? No, kid i might look young. But im not stupid. Now where is your mother?? LOL!

 

Kids are always gonna be on cruises anybody dont like, then go to a somewhere like Cunard or Oceania.

[DrLookGood]

After reading many threads about children I came to a conclusion that while some people have legitimate concern about children ruining their vacation because of bad behavior, there are some for whom there will be no satisfaction unless there are no kids on a cruise, because the view kids as a nuisance. Less so on Carnival board, more on boards for other cruise lines.

[larkz]

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people who have kids are horribly unqualified for the job. It's very rare that a kid's behavior cannot be traced directly back to a parent -- sometimes the parent is cruel and abusive, sometimes indifferent, and sometimes indulgent and spoiling.

[rybreadsmomshubby]

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people who have kids are horribly unqualified for the job. It's very rare that a kid's behavior cannot be traced directly back to a parent -- sometimes the parent is cruel and abusive, sometimes indifferent, and sometimes indulgent and spoiling.

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people are horribly unqualified for existence on this planet.

[larkz]

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people are horribly unqualified for existence on this planet.

 

Yeah, that too. Have to agree, unfortunately.

[Laurie S.]

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people are horribly unqualified for existence on this planet.

 

 

I think that percentage is a lot higher. :rolleyes:

[Megalon]

Because to be honest, in MY experience, it has been the kids who I have seen do all the things people say they do. Yep, adults act up too. But not once on a cruise have I seen an adult push all the buttons on the elevator(saw kids do it), camp out and have a sit down party in the glass elevators(saw kids do it), run down the halls shrieking(saw kids do it), throw food around on Lido(saw kids do it), etc... I'm sure the idiot adults do this as well, but not in my experience. So I'll continue to complain about "unruly kids", and their clueless parents will continue to let them get away with murder. Well-behaved kids are awesome by the way, and my wife and I will for sure comment on good behavior. And nope, none of this ruins my cruise. But I refuse to ignore annoying, and intrusive and sometimes dangerous behaviors, just because they are "kids being kids".

 

All responses to the thread are personal opinions; I'll just say that dwayneb's response reflects mine - and I'm a 37 year (by choice) public school educator.

 

A person can state that his or her 4 year-old is well attended and behaved; I can state that mine was at that age. We can state that bad behaviors are exhibited by 20-25 year olds and 70-75 year olds. I've read threads about babies crying in adjoining rooms but I have read far more about adults being rudely noisy in their staterooms. The fact that the other claims are true does not make an observation about the behavior of SOME children any less valid. We can say that it is the parents' fault (or would that be parent discrimination?). Blanket statements about people being discriminatory against kids as the source of these complaints. . . My guess would be that the vast majority of those who have complained about child behavior on cruises have their own children of one age or another. And there being no complaints about cruises with the indulgences of young twenties - the threads on all cruise line boards about avoiding college spring break cruise time are numerous. Is that collegiate discrimination or partial reality? I've seen threads that complained of how Paula Dean semi-chartered cruises resulted in the inability of other passengers to use certain reserved public spaces. Paula Dean discrimination?? There are cruise blogs devoted to finding out if there are large themed groups on your prospective cruise that might interfere with your enjoyment of your cruise. Discrimination against a Texas Hold-Em or Polka Dancing or Wave Board enthusiasts or any theme you choose or is it a recognition that large groups congregate in areas to have fun that harms no one but may make it harder for you to to use the piano bar because they all meet there at opening and stay all night?

 

The reality is that there is bad behavior at all age levels. I attribute that there are more posts about kid behavior because it either occurs more often or is more annoying because it spans a longer age period, from infants crying in the dining room to teens mashing elevator buttons. And for all mitigators - does stopping at every floor compare to serious illness in the family? Of course not? Does it ruin a vacation? Of course not. Is it annoying? You betcha.

 

There are all sorts of complaints on the boards about experiences that diminish someone's enjoyment of a cruise or any vacation experience. Disagreement does not make the point invalid.

 

"Get over it" has been an "in" expression for a while now. It might soon be overwhelmed by "Really" and "Seriously." But sometimes I find a person using the expression "get over it" actually has the it to get over.

[CourtneyLovesCruising]

I've always felt that about 20 percent of people are horribly unqualified for existence on this planet.

 

BWAAAh aha aha hahaha ha.. you totally win!

[CourtneyLovesCruising]

I don't like discrimination .. be it age, race, sex, culture or whatever. It's my hippie values, I suppose. Live and Let Live.

[Wennfred]

I now book late or second seating just to have a peaceful dinner. On many cruises I had to step on Teens that were blocking the stairway because the wouldn't move... The usually get the message and move on to another location. In general we haven't had problems with Teens but have seen the screaming kid in the dining room during main seating.

 

 

Fred

[kbmeow]

I had a couple of the teen run ins on the last cruise, same group. I was trying to go down and they came up in a group using both side of the stairs and i was on the landing and the walked around me instead of the one side thing. A few times them being stupid in the buffet area and then they snuck into adult comedy. They were maybe 13. Lets just say there were there 5 minutes, although there parents did not care where they were at midnight. I did.

But did it ruin my cruise now. Was I crabilated when they were rude and would not walk on one side of the stairs yes.

 

There was the parents with a infant under 1 who brought the child to the serenity area and when asked to remove the child said but he is a quiet baby no one will notice. The baby was quiet but that was not the point.

 

I notice every person who writes and complains about adults has " well behaved children" .All kids have melt downs at some point at the wrong time. I think that's part of the problem the " not my child" I have heard very few people say most times my kid is well behaved but I know there are times. But I handle the times and try not to make everyone else have to deal with my child when that happens.

[Crusin Hogs]

I have every right to enjoy my time on vacation. I dont want or need some screaming brat sitting next to me at dinner. I dont want or need kids running up and down the halls making all kinds of noise at any time during my vacation!! It is in no way Carnivals fault. Its the parents. But one thing I think Carnival should do is set a curfew for every child under 18 at 11pm. If they are caught they should be escorted to their room. Sounds to me like Carnival needs to hire more security. Ill tell you what. For all the people complaining about the kids you dont want to go to Disney World. Talk about some kids parents that need to be smacked! Wow!!!! Just because your on vacation doesnt give you the right not to watch your children!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesnt matter how old they are. They all need supervision!!!!!!!! One last thing. If Im not getting sleep Im not a nice person and I WILL take care of the problem if you dont! Lets just say I wasnt very well liked at the All Star Sports at Disney! And you know what, I dont care. Take care of your kids and we wont have a problem. End of story.

 

I AGREE!! best post yet!