gatour Posted July 19, 2014 #6751 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Where have these people been for the last two years? And now the French have to have their say:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10975143/France-fears-pollution-from-towed-Costa-Concordia.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted July 19, 2014 #6752 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Where have these people been for the last two years? Just waiting to complain before the tow. And now want to know what will happen. Oh brother Has she come up any more this morning? I am trying to keep an eye open but I am so far behind in my laundry. UGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 19, 2014 #6753 Share Posted July 19, 2014 At the news conference it was mentioned that the earliest to expect the tow would be Tuesday. No surprise in that as we know there has been a 10 hour delay at one point and probably some other smaller delays. Just looking at today the ship hasn't really come up very much since earlier in the day. Found this article and I think it probably provides a fairly accurate account of what to expect. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-convoy-to-assist-wrecked-costa-concordia-out-to-sea/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted July 19, 2014 #6754 Share Posted July 19, 2014 At the news conference it was mentioned that the earliest to expect the tow would be Tuesday.No surprise in that as we know there has been a 10 hour delay at one point and probably some other smaller delays. Just looking at today the ship hasn't really come up very much since earlier in the day. Found this article and I think it probably provides a fairly accurate account of what to expect. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-convoy-to-assist-wrecked-costa-concordia-out-to-sea/ Interesting article, thank you for the update Somebeach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted July 19, 2014 #6755 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I noticed that sponson S4 is now sitting lower. It is being lowered as I type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 19, 2014 #6756 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) I noticed that sponson S4 is now sitting lower. It is being lowered as I type this. Yes, there has been a boat working that area all day. Now another boat has just come in too. It seems to have been checking the forward sponsons. Plus there was work going on port side. From the looks of things the raising has been delayed. It's pretty much remained in the same position as it was much earlier today. A tweet posted about 4 hrs ago on TPP site said that there are still 2 meters until bow is up. Edited July 19, 2014 by SomeBeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted July 19, 2014 #6757 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Found this article and I think it probably provides a fairly accurate account of what to expect. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-convoy-to-assist-wrecked-costa-concordia-out-to-sea/ Chains and cables weighing 30 million tonnes? Can this be true? David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 19, 2014 #6758 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Chains and cables weighing 30 million tonnes? Can this be true? David. That's something I've been trying to check out. Been hoping to find an article that breaks it down into pounds. This may help: http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-a-metric-ton.htm Or do we have any math geniuses on here? Not my strong point and I can't reach my math teacher daughter-in-law. My DIL just called me back. She did some calculating and the answer just seems way to high. I would say that's a typo. Edited July 19, 2014 by SomeBeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 19, 2014 #6759 Share Posted July 19, 2014 This link has some facts in it: http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/italy-costa-concordia-cruise-wreck-salvage-facts-and-figures_947234.html This link has a really cool pix looking down to the bow: http://news.discovery.com/earth/oceans/costa-concordia-refloating-live-at-the-scene-140715.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 20, 2014 #6760 Share Posted July 20, 2014 It's dark but workers were just shining a light over the bow. It is becoming visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted July 20, 2014 #6761 Share Posted July 20, 2014 It's dark but workers were just shining a light over the bow. It is becoming visible. Some welding going on in the area of the steps leading to the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea2 Posted July 20, 2014 #6762 Share Posted July 20, 2014 It's dark but workers were just shining a light over the bow. It is becoming visible. Yes, the bow is coming up. I suspect there will be at least another deck above water by tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted July 20, 2014 #6763 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Pretty sure the bow is emerging. The rail seems to be visible here which puts deck 4 just a few feet to go. 30 million tons (I am assuming metric) is an impossible figure in this project. That would be 30,000,000,000 kilograms or 66,120,000,000 pounds. 66.1 billion pounds. Someone meesed up the units in that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted July 20, 2014 #6764 Share Posted July 20, 2014 This link has some facts in it: http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/italy-costa-concordia-cruise-wreck-salvage-facts-and-figures_947234.html This article says this: The biggest Italian passenger ship ever built, it was two and a half times as heavy as the Titanic. That is probably true by the time Costa Concordia was built. That didn't last too long because in 2008 Fincantieri built the first of the three Dream Class ships for Carnival (Carnival Dream) followed by Carnival Magic in 2011 and Carnival Breeze in 2012. They are 306 m long. Costa Diadema due to be launched soon is also based on the Dream Class and will be the same size. Carnival said at the time that the Dream was the largest ship built in Italy. Don't know if this still holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 20, 2014 #6765 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Luis, thanks for adding the pix. That will be nice for Clive when he checks in. Yes, the article said metric. My daughter-in-law came up with your answers which was why I said it couldn't be right. What is strange is when I entered the question on google, using what was in the article (30 million) to calculate it into pounds it came back with 66,120 lbs. I do wonder if it should have just been 30 metric tons? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted July 20, 2014 #6766 Share Posted July 20, 2014 The difference between a ton and a metric ton is not too much. A ton is 2,000 pounds and a metric ton is 1,000 kilograms. Therefore a metric ton converted to pounds is 2,204 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted July 20, 2014 #6767 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks for the links, Some Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cgolf1 Posted July 20, 2014 #6768 Share Posted July 20, 2014 The bow has finally shown itself:) Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted July 20, 2014 #6769 Share Posted July 20, 2014 CG, yes, now that it's light in Giglio we can really see the bow instead of just the shadow of it. Still looking for a better idea of the weight of the chains and cables but no luck. However I did find another article that I'll link here because it shows a picture of how the Bridge looks now. The pix was released by the courts. Most everything else in there we have seen. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2698446/Costa-Concordia-cruise-wreck-towed-Tuesday-amazing-video-shows-flotation-tanks-attached-ready-wreck-raised.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted July 20, 2014 #6770 Share Posted July 20, 2014 This from yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted July 20, 2014 #6771 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thank you for showing her bow. It is wonderful to see her rise. But it is quite chilling to see the bridge area. Just a heck of a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted July 20, 2014 #6772 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Once they get it towed to the scrap yard area, what do you think they will do with any thing of value that was not dealt with. Things like jewelry, or any thing of real value. Does the company get to keep those items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTH Posted July 20, 2014 #6773 Share Posted July 20, 2014 A fairly large Italian patrol vessel called CP941 U.DICIOTTI now sitting just beyond the 4 tugboats in the mist. Assuming she will escort CC on her final voyage to Genoa on Tuesday? Thanks to everyone for all the links/photos over the last few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted July 20, 2014 #6774 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) The difference between a ton and a metric ton is not too much. A ton is 2,000 pounds and a metric ton is 1,000 kilograms. Therefore a metric ton converted to pounds is 2,204 pounds. That's true. I always think the main difference is the metric ton has an e on the end. David Edited July 20, 2014 by balf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted July 20, 2014 #6775 Share Posted July 20, 2014 And an extra n. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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