How much servers make?

[Dave994]

Much speculation and rumor on what servers make with little to no basis in fact.

 

Exactly! I have never seen a former cruise line employee ever come on here and share with us what they make. Nor should they. That is private info.

[packedandready]

I've also read (so don't know it for fact) that the waiters, cabin attendants, etc have to "pay" the "behind the scenes" people such as laundry workers, some of the kitchen workers etc for "keeping them supplied" with needed supplies and helping them work in a timely manner.

 

Like I said don't know anything as fact, but it does make sense.

[geovet]

Thank you to all the moms out there. You all work more that a carnival cruise employee. Happy to do your job with long hours. No tips and no 6 month contract. Truly blessed by the ones you care for. Can't but a price on it!

[Sargent_Schultz]

So now the US is the only country with a military or the only country with mothers? :confused:

[oncruisecontrol]

I've also read (so don't know it for fact) that the waiters, cabin attendants, etc have to "pay" the "behind the scenes" people such as laundry workers, some of the kitchen workers etc for "keeping them supplied" with needed supplies and helping them work in a timely manner.

 

Like I said don't know anything as fact, but it does make sense.

 

Well, I work as a server for a somewhat prominent restaurant chain (a very good company in my opinion), and if we servers do not "tip out" to bartenders and bussers we will NOT get (timely) service from them. It is not a company rule, it is merely the nature of the beast we all call "service". Bartenders and bussers will take care of their better-tipping servers first. Fact. One hand washes the other, as it were. So, we pay for the good service from our support staff just as direct guests tip for good service. It may be a racket, but it is a small racket compared to the ones that make the news these days. Whatever the case, we're talking about dollars that trickle down to those who work for less hourly wages OR those who have no contact with direct guests, but nevertheless greatly impact the guests' experience. I, as a server, have no problem "tipping out", but some servers are just as "cheap" when tipping out to fellow staff as the "cheap-tipping" guests they complain about.

[SCW4665]

Exactly what I was thinking. If you price it out on $40,000 per year, working 10 months per year on an average of 13 hrs per day, 7 days per week with no days off save for the 2 month vacation.....and being on call when a guest needs something.......Adding to that, being away from home and family and putting up with crap from managers (and sometimes guests, I'm sure) that we might not even consider..........That's roughly $10.25 per hour (most of which is tips, as surely you do not believe that the cruiseline pays that much).

 

 

Which is more than the AVERAGE (E1/E4) enlisted person in the military makes. And away from family . When you read that the average salary for many of these people in THEIR country is 1/10th of 40K , I dont think they are complaining much .. A Russian Casino dealer on a cruise ship make more than a Doctor in Russia. not a bad gig.

[jdyer09]

So now the US is the only country with a military or the only country with mothers? :confused:

 

Wow thats a bit of a leap don't you think???

 

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[Sargent_Schultz]

Wow thats a bit of a leap don't you think???

 

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I wasn't the one who originally made it.

 

What does it matter what servers make? The only reason that I keep coming up with is to attempt to justify in not tipping them. What other reason can there be?

[zqvol]

The problem is the long long hours and being away from home for 6-8 months at a time. Most Americans will not do this.

 

 

The ones that do work for NCL America, in Hawaii.

[Sargent_Schultz]

The ones that do work for NCL America, in Hawaii.

 

and being subject to US labor laws are guaranteed minimum wage and additional compensation for any overtime.

 

on NCL, tipping may be optional, but the service charge isn't. Is it the same on NCLA?

 

NCLA doesn't release turnover figures, but I suspect many don't last the first contract, even with additional compensation.

[golfadj]

Apparently you have forgotten about our military to which this is normal. So there are some Americans that will do it.

Dave

 

You are right and my apologies. Foolish of me to forget.

[sharecruises]

NCLA had huge turnover and tons of problems first few years, also they were trying to fill 3 ships

 

Now they are down to one and have found a happy medium that seems to work. Cruisers on the NCLA Hawaii run pretty much don't get the same sort of "service" they are a bit more relaxed, more TGIFridays than fine dining

 

the American workers have a shorter contract and less hours....more free time

 

In fact on all NCL ships you will see some American/Canadian/Australian entertainment staff having a good time....you will see other "workers" enjoying themselves

 

their "style" cards (customer kudos) get them perks such as dinner in specialty restaurants, shore excursions

 

"Workers" on NCL can be seen having a bit of fun, and most have more time to sit, chat etc.

 

However..the typical responses here are pretty funny....pull out the little violin

 

Fact is that anyone who decides to work on a ship and be away from their family did just that...made a decision. Not my problem really

 

It is not as if Carnival is rounding up people in Phllipines and Eastern Europe and forcing them onto the ships to work

[Sargent_Schultz]

I doubt Carnival is forcing people to cruise on their ships, but Carnival does make it clear that tipping is expected and provides guidelines for what each passenger should tip.

[djcass4199]

Why is this whole thread even a discussion? what they make is their business and is private, just as is my compensation at my job private to me and yours to you. If you want to know what they make, apply with Carnival to do the job that they do and you'll find out.

[FL Naturelover]

Exactly what I was thinking. If you price it out on $40,000 per year, working 10 months per year on an average of 13 hrs per day, 7 days per week with no days off save for the 2 month vacation.....and being on call when a guest needs something.......Adding to that, being away from home and family and putting up with crap from managers (and sometimes guests, I'm sure) that we might not even consider..........That's roughly $10.25 per hour (most of which is tips, as surely you do not believe that the cruiseline pays that much). It would not be worth it to me and many other Americans to leave home for that long. Add to the fact that many of these people who work in these tipped positions on cruiseships have extended family under their roofs who can care for their children while they're away. How many Americans have aunts and grandparents or one or two generations living under one roof who they support in exchange for childcare for months on end? Not many, I'll bet.

 

So very true. That is a major problem in America.

[Tutankhamen]

They do not make 40k a year, that I can assure you.

 

Whether you choose to believe me or not (wouldn't blame you for not trusting a stranger in a forum on the world wide web) the fact is they make less then 30k a year.

 

1st, they do not work 12 months a year. Depending on the cruise line, they may work 6 months on then off 6-8 weeks.

 

2nd, some guests remove tips and do not tip cash. More then you would guess.

 

3rd, Medical is only covered while on the ship. Not a family plan, and not when they are not working on the ship.

 

4th, some cruise lines require the service staff to pay their flight to catch the ship. In the past, some crew members have used the inbound flight, and not show up for work. Flights from their countries can cost a LOT more then us flying to Miami or even San Juan.

 

5th, the wait staff also will tip some of the behind the scenes crew members. Those that do the linens, galley workers and such. They are not required to do this, but in their "ship world" this is how they are able to get "special requests" to make their job easier to serve us and to go above and beyond to meet some of our special requests.

 

6th, the service staff do not get free internet or phone calls. So, they spend their $'s just to stay in touch with their family. I know I would be racking up a bill if I was away from my loved ones for 6 months at a time.

 

7th, they do not get a salary from the cruise line other then a token amount that is less the 100USD.

 

They work very hard, work long long hours 7 days a week for months on end.

 

40k, you got to be kidding.

[Kaki]

What's your income? What do you do and how much do you make?

 

I am a teacher and my name and my income is available for anyone to see on my school district web site; as is the income of all school district employees as required by law.

[cruisenanny]

They do not make 40k a year, that I can assure you.

 

Whether you choose to believe me or not (wouldn't blame you for not trusting a stranger in a forum on the world wide web) the fact is they make less then 30k a year.

 

1st, they do not work 12 months a year. Depending on the cruise line, they may work 6 months on then off 6-8 weeks.

 

2nd, some guests remove tips and do not tip cash. More then you would guess.

 

3rd, Medical is only covered while on the ship. Not a family plan, and not when they are not working on the ship.

 

4th, some cruise lines require the service staff to pay their flight to catch the ship. In the past, some crew members have used the inbound flight, and not show up for work. Flights from their countries can cost a LOT more then us flying to Miami or even San Juan.

 

5th, the wait staff also will tip some of the behind the scenes crew members. Those that do the linens, galley workers and such. They are not required to do this, but in their "ship world" this is how they are able to get "special requests" to make their job easier to serve us and to go above and beyond to meet some of our special requests.

 

6th, the service staff do not get free internet or phone calls. So, they spend their $'s just to stay in touch with their family. I know I would be racking up a bill if I was away from my loved ones for 6 months at a time.

 

7th, they do not get a salary from the cruise line other then a token amount that is less the 100USD.

 

They work very hard, work long long hours 7 days a week for months on end.

 

40k, you got to be kidding.

#1 through #6 is interesting but irrelevant.

Would you share your source for #7 please? Is that per week, per month??

[jbhudson]

They certainly don't make enough!!! BUT, our server on our past cruise was so excited and happy about his life. He said he makes $1200 a month on the ship and if he were back home in the Philipines he'd only make $200. So, he sends all of it back home and is able to send his kids to a private school. We lead a very spoiled life here in America and it's a real wake up call to talk to the people on the ships. They are doing it to better themselves and their family.

[sharecruises]

I doubt Carnival is forcing people to cruise on their ships, but Carnival does make it clear that tipping is expected and provides guidelines for what each passenger should tip.

 

hMM.....where did I ever say that they should not just leave the tips on?

 

I personally don't plan to tip extra...I don't require extra

 

sorry I don't have kids or babies or extra people or special needs or

tons of requests or a big beer cooler in my cabin

 

All the odd interest and boo hoo hoo about the workers is really funny to watch

 

Just read a sad thread about a gal who is sick and can't take her cruise, has insurance but may need to pay for her emergency room bills with it

 

sad sad...

 

I don't worry about the workers families back "home" or their health care or lack of it

 

hell probably a lot of them are right here in Miami any time they need a kidney transplant or heart surgery....we seem to be a popular place for sick foreigners to come to get free medical care (rack up bill don't pay, go home)

 

I am going to Seattle which seems to be a very expensive city...should I worry about the gal at the hotel desk?? How can she support a family in such an expensive city?? Shall I worry about the servers in the restaurants in Seattle?? what about the people running the space needle...I bet that is not highly paid

 

do they have a kid at home....a sick family member....lots of bills??

 

boo hooo hoo....hey I leave the tips on...I have friends of my own, I am not looking to buddy up with people who work on a cruise ship, nice to chat, have nice service, make a joke...but I don't want to hear about the family homestead in Belarus or Manilla

[maxamuus]

hMM.....where did I ever say that they should not just leave the tips on?

 

I personally don't plan to tip extra...I don't require extra

 

All the odd interest and boo hoo hoo about the workers is really funny to watch

 

Just read a sad thread about a gal who is sick and can't take her cruise, has insurance but may need to pay for her emergency room bills with it

 

sad sad...

 

I don't worry about the workers families back "home" or their health care or lack of it

 

hell probably a lot of them are right here in Miami any time they need a kidney transplant or heart surgery....we seem to be a popular place for sick foreigners to come to get free medical care (rack up bill don't pay, go home)

 

I am going to Seattle which seems to be a very expensive city...should I worry about the gal at the hotel desk?? How can she support a family in such an expensive city?? Shall I worry about the servers in the restaurants in Seattle?? what about the people running the space needle...I bet that is not highly paid

 

do they have a kid at home....a sick family member....lots of bills??

 

boo hooo hoo....hey I leave the tips on...I have friends of my own, I am not looking to buddy up with people who work on a cruise ship, nice to chat, have nice service, make a joke...but I don't want to hear about the family homestead in Belarus or Manilla

 

Wow arent you a piece of work:rolleyes:

[Devmegsmum]

hMM.....where did I ever say that they should not just leave the tips on?

 

I personally don't plan to tip extra...I don't require extra

 

sorry I don't have kids or babies or extra people or special needs or

tons of requests or a big beer cooler in my cabin

 

All the odd interest and boo hoo hoo about the workers is really funny to watch

 

Just read a sad thread about a gal who is sick and can't take her cruise, has insurance but may need to pay for her emergency room bills with it

 

sad sad...

 

I don't worry about the workers families back "home" or their health care or lack of it

 

hell probably a lot of them are right here in Miami any time they need a kidney transplant or heart surgery....we seem to be a popular place for sick foreigners to come to get free medical care (rack up bill don't pay, go home)

 

I am going to Seattle which seems to be a very expensive city...should I worry about the gal at the hotel desk?? How can she support a family in such an expensive city?? Shall I worry about the servers in the restaurants in Seattle?? what about the people running the space needle...I bet that is not highly paid

 

do they have a kid at home....a sick family member....lots of bills??

 

boo hooo hoo....hey I leave the tips on...I have friends of my own, I am not looking to buddy up with people who work on a cruise ship, nice to chat, have nice service, make a joke...but I don't want to hear about the family homestead in Belarus or Manilla

 

I feel very sorry for you that this is your view on your fellow human beings. Karma can be a real b**ch!

 

 

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[maxamuus]

I agree.

 

I hate to wish ill upon a fellow human being, but i think you are right. I hope Karma comes around to bite him/her in the a$$

[toby #1]

They make more than I do

 

You poor thing. How can you afford cruises :confused:

 

As others have said, they work very hard keeping us happy and I hope everyone tips them extra.

[sharecruises]

I agree.

 

I hate to wish ill upon a fellow human being, but i think you are right. I hope Karma comes around to bite him/her in the a$$

 

 

 

"piece of work"

 

no just honest

 

I happen to care more about people I personally know and about my fellow Americans

 

I would never be so low as to wish bad things upon people

 

I happen to think YOU are a horrible person to wish bad things upon me simply because I have a life and don't want to buddy up to waiters and bartenders nor do I want to hear about their problems when I am on vacation

 

I never wish bad things on anyone

what sort of a person would?? I guess you showed us

 

once again you show ignorance as "karma" is not so simple....read, google is your friend. We might have an interesting discussion about the differences in Indian "karma" and Buddhist "Karma" if you knew what you are talking about but oh well

 

Tell me... do you worry about the girl who serves you at McDonalds?

How can people live on those wages?

 

What about the porters at the ports...so much anger towards the guys at Port of Miami...how do they support a family when people are so reluctant to tip them?

 

The people on the ships are there by choice, get room/board and make a lot more than they would back home. My guess is that they get a kick out of the american suckers who fall for their sob stories LOL

 

Read cruise confidential for some laughs