Chair Hogs On Notice?

[lola61]

Finally!!! :) There have been soooooo many rude people I have encountered over the years. Bravo Carnival :D

[LuckyZ]

Finally!!! :) There have been soooooo many rude people I have encountered over the years. Bravo Carnival :D

 

I know what you mean about those chair bullies. They're unbelievable

[tracyanns]

I applaud Carnival on this! We do not save loungers. If we want lunch we get it from the grill and bring it back to our loungers and eat it. If we want to use the waterslides, we wait until the afternoon when we are done lying out and take our stuff with us and put it up by the waterslide. I understand that this is not MY chair and if I get up to do anything that is going to require more than 20-30 minutes I take my stuff with me.

 

I don't sleep until noon, I am up on the deck at 9...yes, I am not here at 6 because I was out partying the night before and I am not getting up at 6 to get a chair, but that DOES NOT entitle someone who gets up at 6 to think they get any chair they want all day because they got up there earlier than the others.

 

Guess what? Carnival likes me better because we are out late drinking and spending our money in the casino, not those that go see a show and go to bed at 9 and spend no money...

 

Either way, unless you are in the chair or are away from it for less than 40 minutes, it isn't YOUR chair anymore...move on. Carnival set these rules and kudos for now enforcing them! I hope its fleetwide by the end of summer!

[scperk]

I applaud Carnival on this! We do not save loungers. If we want lunch we get it from the grill and bring it back to our loungers and eat it. If we want to use the waterslides, we wait until the afternoon when we are done lying out and take our stuff with us and put it up by the waterslide. I understand that this is not MY chair and if I get up to do anything that is going to require more than 20-30 minutes I take my stuff with me.

 

I don't sleep until noon, I am up on the deck at 9...yes, I am not here at 6 because I was out partying the night before and I am not getting up at 6 to get a chair, but that DOES NOT entitle someone who gets up at 6 to think they get any chair they want all day because they got up there earlier than the others.

 

Guess what? Carnival likes me better because we are out late drinking and spending our money in the casino, not those that go see a show and go to bed at 9 and spend no money...

 

Either way, unless you are in the chair or are away from it for less than 40 minutes, it isn't YOUR chair anymore...move on. Carnival set these rules and kudos for now enforcing them! I hope its fleetwide by the end of summer!

Very nicely said, I do not want a chair by the pool but I would like one on the next deck up next to the glass...I hope all these chair hogs will learn when they are on their next cruise....I hope they will do the same at the Serenity deck..Although my next cruise is on the Spirit and there should be very few kids and not a lot of people that will be CHAIR HOGGIN............:):)...Dennis

[berwyn]

I really would like someone to explain why they feel that they should be able to "save" a chair while they go and do something else (that takes longer than 30-40 minutes)?

 

Why is it that you feel you should be able to go have lunch and return to the *same* chair?

 

If I am in the Lido, leave my table for 30 minutes to go do something else, should I leave my stuff behind so that I can reclaim the same table? If I'm in the show lounge would it work there too?

 

What is it about the pool deck that makes people assume the chairs there "belong" to them for the day simply because they happened to sit in one first (or at all)?

Right on Sarah.

[WiCruiseDreamer]

I really would like someone to explain why they feel that they should be able to "save" a chair while they go and do something else (that takes longer than 30-40 minutes)?

 

Why is it that you feel you should be able to go have lunch and return to the *same* chair?

 

If I am in the Lido, leave my table for 30 minutes to go do something else, should I leave my stuff behind so that I can reclaim the same table? If I'm in the show lounge would it work there too?

 

What is it about the pool deck that makes people assume the chairs there "belong" to them for the day simply because they happened to sit in one first (or at all)?

 

I have to agree with you, Sarah. Unless I have bought a special ticket, then I would not expect a chair to be held for me because I decide to go and get a drink or lunch or even use the pool or bathroom. I know of no venue where the saving of chairs is even a consideration or thought, unless the chair/seat has been paid for, such as a concert or sporting event.

 

I agree that there has to be some policing of this, but 30-40 minutes is a gift, in my opinion, to the person leaving the chair.

[scperk]

I have to agree with you, Sarah. Unless I have bought a special ticket, then I would not expect a chair to be held for me because I decide to go and get a drink or lunch or even use the pool or bathroom. I know of no venue where the saving of chairs is even a consideration or thought, unless the chair/seat has been paid for, such as a concert or sporting event.

 

I agree that there has to be some policing of this, but 30-40 minutes is a gift, in my opinion, to the person leaving the chair.

I LOVE the quote in you signature...may I borrow it for mine............................................................................................................................................................... My thoughts and posts are a reflection of my opinions based on who I am and what I know.

They are not meant to be the basis of any factual statement,

but rather the exchange of information and opinion.

...............Dennis

[WiCruiseDreamer]

I LOVE the quote in you signature...may I borrow it for mine ...............................................................................................................................................................

My thoughts and posts are a reflection of my opinions based on who I am and what I know. They are not meant to be the basis of any factual statement, but rather the exchange of information and opinion.

...............Dennis

 

 

Thank you, and yes you may.

[twindaddy]

I really applaud this idea, but I am wondering if 40 minutes for Carnival or 30 minute absence in NCL isn't a little short. I like to take a break and go down the water slide and I have waited longer than 40 mins. for my turn. Also it might be tough to wolf down lunch in under 40 mins and race back to your chair. Maybe I will be informed otherwise, but is it chair hogging if you just take a break to do these things? To my mind, chair hogging is someone who takes up the prime chair at 6am, then goes back to bed, does breakfast etc. and wonders back at 11am or just leaves it reserved in case the mood strikes later in the day. I would think that 1 hour away from the lounger is nabbing the true chair hogs and not those who really intend to spend the say at the lounger, but need a couple of breaks to swim or grab a bite.

 

Forgive me, because you sound like a very common sense, straight forward and reasonable person, but I have to agree competely with Sarah below. I am not trying to be snide (often I am, not this time), but why do you feel you have ownership over that chair? Eat your lunch, visit guest services, buy some crap in the gift shop, have a quickie with the husband, and come back to the pool deck and find another chair. With this program, there will always be one available.

 

Curious about your take on below.....you give great examples of ultra severe chair hogging, but your not-as-bad examples still fit the definition as well to me. I dont own the chair, and if I REALLY wanted to keep it, I would leave a spouse there to keep it saved. After a sticker gets put on the open chair, they could move to that chair, sit down, and remove the sticker, restarting the clock till I get back.

 

 

I really would like someone to explain why they feel that they should be able to "save" a chair while they go and do something else (that takes longer than 30-40 minutes)?

 

Why is it that you feel you should be able to go have lunch and return to the *same* chair?

 

If I am in the Lido, leave my table for 30 minutes to go do something else, should I leave my stuff behind so that I can reclaim the same table? If I'm in the show lounge would it work there too?

 

What is it about the pool deck that makes people assume the chairs there "belong" to them for the day simply because they happened to sit in one first (or at all)?

[kansas kruiser]

I have to agree with you, Sarah. Unless I have bought a special ticket, then I would not expect a chair to be held for me because I decide to go and get a drink or lunch or even use the pool or bathroom. I know of no venue where the saving of chairs is even a consideration or thought, unless the chair/seat has been paid for, such as a concert or sporting event.

 

I agree that there has to be some policing of this, but 30-40 minutes is a gift, in my opinion, to the person leaving the chair.

This Cheerleader agrees!!!!:p

[Guzzler]

So if you wait for 20-30 minutes for Deli or Mongolian Wok, you have to eat on your chair or lose your seat, that is not fair

 

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

LOL

[Holders3]

I believe this is in the experimental phase only on the Breeze at this time? So it may not happen on the many other cruises yet.

 

Sounds like a plan to me, anyway.

[MoneyGuy]

I hate chair hogs, too, but ask this question.

 

Is it the same thing if you go to a movie and save seats for three friends who are at the concession?

 

What about when you're on a cruise and you save some seats at a table at the buffet for some companions?

 

What about saving some choice seats in the ship theatre?

 

You're on a beach at a resort and you save some loungers for frends?

 

Just as bad, or is this different than hogging deck chairs?

[StillPooh]

I hate chair hogs, too, but ask this question.

 

Is it the same thing if you go to a movie and save seats for three friends who are at the concession?

 

What about when you're on a cruise and you save some seats at a table at the buffet for some companions?

 

What about saving some choice seats in the ship theatre?

 

You're on a beach at a resort and you save some loungers for frends?

 

Just as bad, or is this different than hogging deck chairs?

If they are coming back momentarily, then it's not an issue to save seats in the buffet or the movies for your companions. In a cruise ship theater, your friends had best show up pretty damn speedily, or you are gonna get the stink eye.

 

Saving loungers becomes a hog issue when it goes on for too long. More than half an hour= TOO LONG.

 

It's not rocket science. :rolleyes:

[govgurl]

I hate chair hogs, too, but ask this question.

 

Is it the same thing if you go to a movie and save seats for three friends who are at the concession?

 

What about when you're on a cruise and you save some seats at a table at the buffet for some companions?

 

What about saving some choice seats in the ship theatre?

 

You're on a beach at a resort and you save some loungers for frends?

 

Just as bad, or is this different than hogging deck chairs?

 

A movie theater, buffet, or show is a little different. In a movie theater, at a show, or at a buffet, there's no expectation of circulation. That is to say, everyone comes in at a certain time (when the theater/buffet opens) and is stationary until the end of the activity, at which point everyone leaves at once. As for a resort, you're dealing with a much larger area with many more chairs, and again, there is circulation. People return to their hotel rooms, go to get food, go off to shop in town, go to the spa, etc. Chair hogging at the theater would be holding a seat on either side of you that no one sits in for the whole performance, just because you don't want to be too close to strangers.

 

Carnival isn't expecting you to remain stationary on the deck all day long, and the decks aren't designed for it. They have a certain number of chairs premised on the idea that people will circulate throughout the day. So if you don't get a chance to have your choice of seat right away, seats open up over time as people circulate out of them, and thus eventually you'll probably have a chance to sit where you want. Chair hogging disrupts this flow. Seats never open up because people hold them all day, causing a back up. That encourages other people to follow suit to ensure they get some kind of good seat, causing further back up. Chairs don't open up because no one leaves them open.

 

I don't think most people want to sit in a lounge chair for all the daylight hours, even one by the pool. But I do think people want to be able to have a couple of hours in a chair, or a hammock on the serenity deck, or what have you at some point. It's not unreasonable at your cruise to be able to walk out on deck and spot a few open chairs, and then overtime to perhaps see others open up. Some places and times will always be crowded of course. But, if everyone shares the deck, and no one tries to hold a chair or group of chairs for themselves for the whole day, everyone has a reasonable opportunity to try sitting in different places on the ship. Of course, if you do want to sit in your chair all day (just as you sit in a seat at the theater or the buffet for a whole performance), you should feel free to do so, but it's a waste of space and resources to encourage people to hold seats they're not actually using.

[WiCruiseDreamer]

If they are coming back momentarily, then it's not an issue to save seats in the buffet or the movies for your companions. In a cruise ship theater, your friends had best show up pretty damn speedily, or you are gonna get the stink eye.

 

Saving loungers becomes a hog issue when it goes on for too long. More than half an hour= TOO LONG.

 

It's not rocket science. :rolleyes:

 

I think saving seats in any venue more then 15 minutes is too long.

[luvsboozecruises]

A CHAIR HOG IS = Put a towel on a chair and that person does not show up ( OR THE OTHER 10 TOWELS AND PEOPLE ) for 30 min to hours later.. If i am up at 7am and sit my ass on a chair till 7pm and leave for 10 or 15 minutes i am NOT a chair hog,, I am = (relaxing) on a cruise i paid for..people that sleep to 11am or 2pm on a sea day are doing the same thing that i am doing =(relaxing) people that are up early who want to eat lunch at 12:30pm are not here talking about no seats in the lido deck buffet area to eat while all the late risers are eating breakfast..I AM FOR THE NEW POLICY!!! I see people at 7am doing the whole row of towels are not show up till 12:00,,but that is carnival and most other cruise lines that turn there heads to it and let it happen !!!!!

[WiCruiseDreamer]

A CHAIR HOG IS = Put a towel on a chair and that person does not show up ( OR THE OTHER 10 TOWELS AND PEOPLE ) for 30 min to hours later.. If i am up at 7am and sit my ass on a chair till 7pm and leave for 10 or 15 minutes i am NOT a chair hog,, I am = (relaxing) on a cruise i paid for..people that sleep to 11am or 2pm on a sea day are doing the same thing that i am doing =(relaxing) people that are up early who want to eat lunch at 12:30pm are not here talking about no seats in the lido deck buffet area to eat while all the late risers are eating breakfast..I AM FOR THE NEW POLICY!!! I see people at 7am doing the whole row of towels are not show up till 12:00,,but that is carnival and most other cruise lines that turn there heads to it and let it happen !!!!!

 

Agree, if you do not leave from your chair for more then 15 minutes you have the right to it. It is those that place towels on the chair then return 30+ minutes later that to me are hogging the chair.

[MissRabbit]

Haha. Not naive enough to think there will be a lounger there after I come back from the buffet.

 

 

If EVERYONE simply used a chair when they were on the deck, and take their stuff when they moved on to other things, there just may be a chair for everyone, always.

 

It's like traffic on a freeway. If everyone goes the same speed, everyone gets to their destination on time. If even a few people go slow, or lay on their brakes, in no time at all traffic is snarled to a standstill.

 

If passengers left a chair empty when they left the deck, there would be a constant stream of passengers using loungers. There would be plenty enough for everyone. It's when the majority of loungers are being used by towels and sunscreen bottles that it bottlenecks and the passengers are stuck in a traffic jam, waiting for a lounger to free up and get the traffic flowing again.

[MissRabbit]

I hate chair hogs, too, but ask this question.

 

Is it the same thing if you go to a movie and save seats for three friends who are at the concession?

 

What about when you're on a cruise and you save some seats at a table at the buffet for some companions?

 

What about saving some choice seats in the ship theatre?

 

You're on a beach at a resort and you save some loungers for frends?

 

Just as bad, or is this different than hogging deck chairs?

 

To me, if they're in the concession or in the buffet etc and will be arriving at their seats momentarily, then i don't consider it being a chair hog. Just like going to the bathroom or refilling your lemonade. It's all about time and intent.

 

If i save a seat next to me while hubby is grabbing us a couple drinks, i don't consider this wrong. But if i'm laying a bunch of blankets down the entire front two rows, just to have the entourage waltz in with 2 minutes til showtime, then it's wrong.

[LuckyZ]

I hate chair hogs, too, but ask this question.

 

Is it the same thing if you go to a movie and save seats for three friends who are at the concession?

 

In this scenario, you need to remember that the movie theatre is only going to sell as many tickets as there are seats, and if they sell out, they stop selling tickets. Meaning everyone gets a seat in the theatre. The earlier you get to the theatre, the more choice seat you get.

 

On a cruise ship, there are many chairs on many areas of the ship. The earlier you get up and get to the seat you will use for the day, the better choice of chair you have. The later you sleep in, the less choice you have.

 

And if I park my caboose in that seat from 9am, and stay there until 4pm, you have no right to bully me out of that chair if I decide I need to get a quick bite or, a quick swim, or go to the bathroom, regardless if I'm gone for 15, 20, or 30 minutes.

 

If you want good seats at a theatre, get there 30 minutes before movie starts, not 5 minutes before.

If you want a good seat on the Lido deck, get up at a decent hour, not at noon.

[Evangaline]

While I realize probably no cruise ship has enough deck chairs for every pax, I'm surprised that the money-hungry cruise lines have not set aside certain areas (both in Sun and shade) where pax can rent the chairs, either on a daily or per-cruise basis. This used to be done on ocean liners years ago. Here, you would pay a fee to the deck steward, and you would "own" a particular chair(s) for the alloted time frame. I would say to do this on a per-day basis, but allow for discounts if on a per-cruise basis. What to charge? On a 7-day, $20/day/chair/daily, or $10-$15/day/chair/cruise length.

 

Okay, I have my Nomex suit on! ;)

 

Oh NO doubt that is where this thing is headed-paying for our loungers. Don't think for a minute that the cruise lines are doing this because they are concerned about Choggers.

[hftmrock]

I'm mainly talking about the equivalent problem and they are called "Chair Bullies".

 

These are the people who stay out until 4am, sleep until noon. Get to the Lido deck at about 1pm, and expect that people who legitimately have chairs to give them up.

 

They walk the deck and basically sit in chairs already being used by families that went for a quick swim or bathroom break, and when you tell them the chairs are taken by someone who will be back shortly, they give you a dirty look.

 

You need to look at both sides of the issue and be impartial.

 

dont you realize this solves your problem too...

 

If they remove stuff that is there for more than 40 minutes, there are more free chairs. if there are more free chairs, they wont be looking to remove your stuff if you take a bathroom break. No one will give you a dirty look or try to argue with you if your stuff is there. It will be assumed that you have left for more than 40 minutes and they will go to the numerous chairs that now are free with no stuff on it.

 

Chair hogs problem resolved

Chair bullies problem resolved

[Stevie17]

Haha. Not naive enough to think there will be a lounger there after I come back from the buffet. Anyhow, so the verdict is sit in sun or starve. So the best bet might be throw a room service sandwich into my purse when I head out. problem solved. This still leaves the issue of the waterslides. I actually could not do the waterslide line and get back to my lounger within 30 minute in the past. And I know I can not take my towel, hat and beach bag down the slide, so now what?

Okay so no waterslides, crappy lunch, but I have my flipping lounger. And the alternative to make it 1 hour before the lounger is lost is out out the window by popular vote. Well....so which cruiselines are doing this again?

 

40 minutes is plenty of time to grab a bite to eat or use the waterslide. You're looking for excuses...you're not going to starve. Give me a break. You have 40 minutes....use it wisely.

[Room Service!]

40 minutes is plenty of time to grab a bite to eat or use the waterslide. You're looking for excuses...you're not going to starve. Give me a break. You have 40 minutes....use it wisely.

 

 

Stevie17 - Well said. ;)