Review: Riding the waves on the Jewel, Oct 28th – Nov 4th - Hurricane Sandy and pics

[Snowrose]

Thanks for all the nice comments, everyone. It's actually quite a bit of work posting the review, so knowing you're enjoying it makes putting it together a lot easier. :D

[Snowrose]

Except for embarkation day and our first day at sea, we’d had pretty good weather on our cruise. Our day at Universal Island’s of Adventure in Orlando on the 30th and two days later at Atlantis we had nothing but brilliant blue skies and gentle breezes. Orlando had been cool when it came to anything water related but Nassau was actually more than comfortable, being some where around the mid- to upper 70s by midday. Even though we left for our excursion early in the morning, it was still more than comfortable to be in bathing suits and beachwear.

It was a short mini-bus ride down the main street and across the bridge to get to Atlantis. I’ve done a few island nation tours but I was still a bit surprised by the fold down jump-seats that allowed extra passengers to be squeezed into the aisles of the van-like mini-buses. But for such a short trip (less than 10 minutes) it was no trouble.

Our drop-off/pick-up area was just outside the entry gate of Atlantis. The tour leader then, of course, led us through the main shops and the casino before we entered the grounds. (I wonder if Atlantis is set up that this would happen automatically or if this route is required of the tours, in hopes of Atlantis getting more dollars from the tourists?)

If you do go on an Atlantis excursion – and I highly recommend them as we had a wonderful time - make sure to keep careful track of how you were brought into the complex or you may have a lot of trouble finding your way out and back to your pick-up point.

There’s a large amount of what I would characterize as Minoan-style art in Atlantis, as well as some beautiful glass sculptures that could easily have been created in Murano Italy.

And much of the architecture is complex, with a beautiful ocean theme.

One of several wading pools that were not just for children

A shell gazebo

[Shayneele]

Loving your review. Thank you so much for taking the time to write it and share with us.

[Snowrose]

We were lucky enough to have NCL create a mixed Aquaventure/Dolphin Encounter excursion just as we were looking at pre-booking our Nassau excursion online, so for just $50 more per person we were able to add the Aquaventure to our shallow water dolphin encounter, which made for a full day. (How much you get to use each of the water park slides/rides really does depend on just how busy Atlantis is at the time. Having just had a hurricane on the island, we were lucky that lines were almost non-existent.)

In the end we actually had a lazy day. We didn’t use the water slides at all but we did the 30 to 40 minute not-so-lazy river ride 3 times. Going through the swirls, eddies and rapids were great fun!

(There are multiple entry points for the lazy river, so if you don't find any tubes at your first stop you can walk along the pathways until you find an entry point that has tubes.)

Oh! Two things you want to be aware of. The lockers are quite a distance away from much of the water activities, being near the beaches. Be prepared for a 5 to 10 minute walk to and from the area you select as your home base. (Yes, this is one time when you actually can select lounge chairs and hold them with your towels and other items.) ;)

We arrived at Dolphin Cay about 10 minutes early for our shallow water dolphin encounter. Turns out being on time isn’t a massively serious problem unless there are lots of people scheduled, as for the first 20 minutes or so you just sit through an orientation video that tells you facts about dolphins. But the one interesting fact that wasn’t in the video but was told to us by one of the guides was that most of the dolphins at Dolphin Cay were released to the ocean for their own safety when Hurricane Sandy came through. (I’m guessing the mother and the 8 month baby were the ones not released.)

The dolphins returned to Dolphin Cay on their own.

After the orientation video, we were brought out to the Dophin Cay beaches. Honestly, the beaches are covered in sand that is somewhat grainy with what appears to be a cement base about 6 inches below the sand, so if you have tender feet the walking is a bit rough. I would recommend watershoes - and they would only help when walking the exterior walkways that have inlays of coral in them.

We had a wonderful time having our pictures taken with the dolphins and watching them. Our dolphin was Brewer, who had a mind of his own. He kept swimming away, but he’d always come back again.

What I'd call the ultimate Christmas card picture

Actually, Brewer being somewhat independent (dolphins can’t be controlled by promises of food the way seals can) prolonged our time at the Cay, so since we still got our encounter it was just fine. It also gave us a chance to meet the 8 month old baby dolphin, who was training right next to us.

The only negative with the shallow water dolphin encounter is that it’s so scripted. You’re told what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. Kneel, put your hands here on the dolphin, etc. Everyone’s experience was basically the same – but here’s a surprise that I just noticed when I was trying to look up the name of the baby dolphin – Atlantis is going to apparently begin freestyle snorkel swims with the dolphins in the near future!

http://www.atlantis.com/thingstodo/dolphincay/freestyleswim.aspx

I hope this will be available as part of the excursions very soon!

[Snowrose]

One wonderful thing about cruising, sometimes it gives you the ability to do something that is one of what I call your life dreams. Some folks might call that ‘checking an item off your Bucket list’. I was lucky in that I was able to check 4 items off my list with this trip: I went to a Florida amusement park, I got to see a part of Cape Canaveral (though at a distance), I got to touch a dolphin, and I also got to see Atlantis – which had been a dream of mine ever since the announcement years ago that it was being built.

One of the places in Atlantis that I really wanted to visit was The Digs, a section of Atlantis that basically gives you a designer’s interpretation of what it would be like to unearth the real Atlantis.

To me, The Digs were fascinating and beautiful. There was Captain Nemo-esque gear, more Minoan-style architecture – much of it underwater – and numerous tanks, large and small, teaming with sealife.

Some of the beautiful displays…

These are moray eels, very dangerous.

One of the tanks even held a manta ray that was larger than a VW beetle.

We were tired but happy and sated when the day ended, and very happy to be heading back to the Jewel.

 

More later, summing up our experiences...

[Arzeena]

Very nice reviews and pictures. Thanks for posting!

[sue402001]

Love the picture of the family with Brewer, it would make a great Christmas Card!

[Snowrose]

After leaving Nassau we had two days at sea to wind our way back to NYC. Believe it or not, by the second day at sea we were once again being influenced by clouds and winds from Sandy! Fortunately the waters were only lightly choppy, even though the winds could at times reach better than 45 mph.

 

The first day DH and I took things very easy. We'd been doing a great deal of walking in the previous days and our leg muscles needed a bit of down time. OTOH, SD - who bounded up 7 flights of stairs after our day at Atlantis and beat our elevator even though there was only one stop - well, she was off again, spending all her time at Kids Crew.

 

DH did take SD to the Family White Hot party during that time, just sitting off in a corner. Now I must admit I was not enthused about the Family White Hot party. The Halloween Family Dance had begun early in the evening and ended at just after 10PM. But the Family White Hot party began at around 10:15 and went until midnight! That does seem more than a little late for a party where you're requiring a parent to chaperone as you're expecting younger kids to be there.

 

And now here is the one piece of food porn that I will put out there for you, from the Chocolate Buffet at the end of the cruise. I've been to two previous chocolate buffets, widely spaced apart. The first one many years ago on the Starward was incredible, with both the desserts and the displays deserving commendations. The second one, on the Spirit 6 years ago, was okay. The chocolate displays were wonderful but most of the chocolate desserts had been flavorless and not worth the calories.

 

The chocolate buffet on the Jewel was pretty much the opposite of what happened on the Spirit, the desserts themselves were for the most part very tasty - though I'm sad to say that they were also very repetetive, with each dessert being offered in about 4 or more places in the buffet.

 

 

 

 

The carvings though, to my way of thinking, were somewhat lackluster. Most of them were simply geometric shapes piled on top of each other, which seems rather simplistic.

 

 

 

I did like the artistry of these fans, however.

 

Gone were the unusual shapes we'd enjoyed on the Spirit, like owls sitting in cages and the Eiffel tower. Instead coloring white chocolate was used to replace true artistry. Yes, I know that it takes time for such items to be made but they're used over and over again, so taking more time to manufacture them shouldn't be too much of an issue. Once they're made you only have to replace items that are damaged.

 

It's only fair that I note, however, that I'm a graphic designer and so maybe my expectations are higher than some people's would be.

 

Speaking of foods, a few comments about dining onboard the Jewel. DH and I never really did find a reason to try the specialty restaurants. We might have been more likely to if SD had been more open to eating in them, but we were happy with the quality of the food in the MDRs and wanted to try the various offerings.

 

The three of us ate one dinner at Tsar's, just to experience the place. It's quite beautiful but it was our first at-sea day away from NYC and the waters were still slightly choppy. And being at the aft of the ship, the rocking of the ship and the shuddering of the engines made eating a bit uncomfortable. I think from now on we'll leave the aft MDRs for days in port, as we found this to be true of Spirit also.

 

DH and I ate most of our dinners at the mid-ship MDR, Azura. For the most part we found Azura pleasant and the food bordering on excellent. DH and I do enjoy fine dining so we feel comfortable judging the meals we were served and the staff of the dining room.

 

The first thing I note with the menus is that the number of "Starters" has diminished. There tended to be - I think - 4 to 5 Starters on the changing menu, and most of the chilled soups had disappeared. The number of dessert choices had also dropped.

 

I had the lobster on Embarkation day. As suggested by other posters', I asked for two lobster tails and had them remove the fish. (I'm not a fish fan, though I love other kinds of seafood.) The waiter we had at the time was not impressed by this request. I ended up with a very bare looking plate of two tails over some white-ish rice. No drawn butter was ever brought to the table. (Yes, I could have requested it but as noted by others the half tails aren't that big and it didn't take long to finish them.)

 

Honestly, this dinner was the one I could have happily passed by and gotten something else but SD was in the cabin due to seasickness and we didn't want to stay in the restaurant too long.

 

Except for the waiter's response to my asking for changes to my dinner, he was a good waiter and otherwise made every effort to make sure we were happy with our meals and the service.

 

I wish I could remember specific foods we'd eaten and tell you about them but for the most part I can't and the menus that are currently listed out there are different enough from what we experienced that they're not jogging my memory very much.

 

I can say that my DH was on a steak binge while we were on the cruise and he had numerous kinds of steak, from prime rib to marinated steaks of various types. DH can be quite picky about steak but he pronounced every one of them to be properly done to the medium rare he had ordered, tasty, and tender. From our experience all of the steaks appeared to be AAA rated.

 

Other than the steak, DH and I agreed that our favorite food in the MDR was the coconut sherbet. It was delicious!

 

One tiny complaint about service in the MDR though, and something for NCL to correct: Removal of extraneous plates and silver should never interrupt the middle of a meal. Collect the extra items before people have ordered or even while their attention is diverted when they're talking with their waiter, but never in the middle of a meal when you are interrupting conversations so that everyone's eyes are on the person removing the items.

 

Now, DH and I had our dinners in the MDRs, but SD's dinners began as mostly at Blue Lagoon, as they were open later. SD is very open to new foods and has experienced many cuisines but I think she was uncomfortable in the restaurants. She opted for Garden Cafe, the Great Outdoors and Blue Lagoon - but she got tired of the fare at Blue Lagoon very quickly. It's a commentary on the food that after a few nights she started leaving Kids Crew a bit earlier so she could get food at the buffet or Great Outdoors instead. While we were onboard, Blue Lagoon was having a consistent problem with either the chicken fingers or the french fries being over-cooked and having a smoky flavor.

 

We had our breakfasts at the Garden Cafe or the Great Outdoors. The selection of food was good, though we often had to go out to the Great Outdoors to find seating. Eventually we started eating a bit later than 10AM, and just ate at Great Outdoors. They had most of what the buffet had and a few breakfast items that were different from the buffet (the had a very good cinnamon roll there that I didn't find in Garden Cafe), and being later there wasn't a premium on seating anymore.

 

Lunch at the Garden Cafe wasn't bad but it seemed very repetetive. Also, it seemed like after the first day at sea they never changed the signs above the various stations so there were some problems finding what you wanted.

 

The biggest draw back to foods at Garden Cafe was that the chefs/cooks tended to have a heavy hand with salt. Now, DH and I are moderate salt users. We don't pile it on and we don't avoid it, so if the food appeared salty to us then it most likely was over-salted. And the worst offender of that seemed to be the Indian dishes, which was a shame as DH and I both enjoy Indian cuisine and have it often.

 

Again, we eventually opted to get our lunches a bit later and at the Great Outdoors, because of seating, carrying overs of the best foods from Garden Cafe but with some different options for food (potato and tortilla chips, and cookies). *wink*

 

Our favorite foods from Garden Cafe/Great Outdoors were the muffaletta sandwich (which was sadly missing the olive tapenade the second time it was offered), the eggs benedict, the sausage gravy, and the muesli.

 

As there have been several discussions about it on this board, I do want to point out that there was no sign of any flavored waters at the dispensers when we were on the Jewel. There was ice tea, coffee, milk, cranberry, orange and apple juices (not always on the same days) and one time there was lemonade - but we didn't see any flavored waters at the dispensers.

 

Moving on from food, a word about crowds. DH and I tend to avoid crowds and the deck chairs in the sunny areas were quite busy, but I honestly can't tell you if there was a problem with chairs being held for extensive periods with just a towel on them. We preferred sitting on our balcony and tended to avoid the pool area, except at night and on our first sea day after departing Nassau.

 

That day, we decided to go swimming and chose to wait until 5PM as we'd observed that a lot of people leave the pool area by that time. We had a grand time floating around in the adult pool, though the waterfall wasn't working that day. But the 86F water was wonderful, like floating in a warm salty bath. We didn't want to get out.

 

One last interesting story to close my review. When we first boarded the ship we heard a brief conversation, with someone saying they'd come on the Jewel specifically to escape Hurricane Sandy. Well, while we were swimming in the pool we met another such person. She had taken a cabin on the Jewel just days before sailing. She was from NJ and her husband was a volunteer fireman. Anticipating that the first week after Sandy hit her husband would be working nearly 24 hours a day and that she most likely wouldn't have any power and possibly no water, she signed on to the cruise to avoid all that.

 

Even with the rough waters the very first night, she felt she'd gotten a good deal - and there's no doubt in my mind that she was right.

[ddakrt]

Thank you for the excellent review! I love reading about other people's trips when they post pictures, makes me feel I'm along for the ride. :D

 

BTW, a few people here were following the Jewel while you were on board and the progress of Sandy. Might be an interesting read for you.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1729636

[Snowrose]

Thank you for the excellent review! I love reading about other people's trips when they post pictures, makes me feel I'm along for the ride. :D

 

BTW, a few people here were following the Jewel while you were on board and the progress of Sandy. Might be an interesting read for you.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1729636

 

Thanks so much for the link, ddakrt. I'd been searching for a discussion of the Jewel vs Hurricane Sandy but hadn't been able to find it.

 

Some things for those who watched the Jewel in her race down the coast to consider - and due to the M&G I can tell you this was Captain Hoydal's thinking - we had a tailwind for a great deal of the first 24 hours. That means that though the ship's engines may be registering something like 24 kts our actual speed through water would be higher, due to the tailwinds pushing us. And that's what the Captain was counting on, going south really fast to escape the rough seas as quickly as possible.

 

As the Captain said in his announcement the next morning, the rough seas the first night "were the price we paid" to make it to Port Canaveral and better weather on schedule.

 

Also, for the record, our car was parked on the top of the terminal for our cruise, and we had no storm damage. But apparently the Brooklyn and Bayonne terminals - which are both closer to the mouth of the river - did have cars damaged in the parking areas. And from what I read on the RCL board, apparently many of the cars were totalled after 24 to 48 hours in standing sea water.

 

I do agree with what ShivaLady said about people still moving around the ship the first night. There were women wearing high heels, and the elevators were even working. (When DH and I were on the Spirit, we hit a snowstorm coming off the coast of VA and the seas were bad enough for Spirit that the elevators were shut down. But that didn't happen to Jewel.)

 

But I do think that LadyShiva was incorrect about the wave height that night. DH and I tend to be night owls, so we had the TV turned on late at night and we did see the ship registering waves in the 30 to 40 foot range for a short while. I think that lasted for a very loooong 45 minutes or so.

 

I do want to say, though, that I sent in a Cruise Hero card for Captain Hoydal. There's no doubt in my mind that it was his expertise that made it possible for us to have a near normal cruise. And though there was a scary moment or two when the waves were at their roughest, in the end it was worth it.

 

And I also wanted to say that Captain Hoydal did hear about the Jewel being called out by name. He mentioned it at the M&G the very next morning. He was not happy about that at all, understandably, since they questioned his actions, and he hoped that some of us on the cruise would post online and mention that we thought he'd made the right choice. Well, the proof is in the pudding. We had a basically normal cruise, so Captain Hoydal did make the right choice. Other ships made the wrong choice or were slow to choose and they paid bigger prices than we did, including the RCL ship where it's been reported on their discussion board that they had broken bones.

 

BTW, just wanted to tell you that we put our refund for our GSC excursion to good use. We bought one of the cruise rewards, putting down $250 toward a new cruise and getting $100 in OBC back. Combined with our GSC refund, that $250 only cost us $30!! And we're very happily going to be going on another NCL cruise some time within the next 4 years. :D

[JerseyGem]

Thank you for taking the time to tell us about your cruise. Your review has been delightful to read. We're going on the Jewel in January; you've definitely raised my "anticipation level" for my cruise!

[KirkNC]

Thanks for the review!

[boopsahoy]

Really enjoyed your review. Its funny, youre the first person that ever mentionned the muesli at the buffet. One of my favorite breakfast items! Thanks for posting and happy you had a nice cruise:)

[LaPrincesa]

I really liked the family portrait with that dolphin. You should use it as a holiday card!

 

 

~ La Princesa

[Snowrose]

Really enjoyed your review. Its funny, youre the first person that ever mentionned the muesli at the buffet. One of my favorite breakfast items! Thanks for posting and happy you had a nice cruise:)

 

Yes, I tried and loved the muesli (a cold, wet version of oatmeal and fruit) when we sailed previously on the Spirit, so I was looking for it on Jewel. I found it after a day or so at the Great Outdoors, and then eventually discovered it at the back of the Garden Cafe, also.

 

Muesli is my staple breakfast item when we're cruising. :)

 

I really liked the family portrait with that dolphin. You should use it as a holiday card!

 

~ La Princesa

 

I've felt so - I don't know - proud of that picture, ever since I saw it. When the pictures were being taken I didn't realize that we were being lined up that way, and to see all that come together so nicely was just wonderful.

 

Thanks so much for all the good words, everyone! If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

[aprylstar]

Did you by chance hereto your kids club dailies? My son (11) is interested in seeing them. We are sailing on the jewel this march! We love your review :p

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[aprylstar]

Sorry! Not hereto! I meant hold onto. Thanks!


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[Snowrose]

For some reason the board doesn't want to quote aprylstar's post, so I'm doing it by hand...

[quote]Did you by chance hereto your kids club dailies? My son (11) is interested in seeing them. We are sailing on the jewel this march! We love your review :p[/quote]

The Kid's Crew information was part of the regular Dailies - and, yes, we did hang onto all of the Kid's Crew info that we got for tween-agers. I'll try to scan them and post them for you this evening.

Oh, and one more comment after reading about Brian99's debarkation the week before us: Our debarkation was very strange. We decided to carry off our own luggage, as so many others do. Of course that meant that we ended up in quite a line of people at the stairs. There were about 3 or 4 floors worth of people lining up. We were able to bypass a few of those by taking the elevator to deck 5, one deck above the gangway on deck 4.

Because of Hurricane Sandy, things then went very strange. What we did was swipe our cards out on leaving the ship, hand our Customs form to one of two agents as we walked into the terminal - without stopping to talk to anyone - and then walked through the terminal, which only had emergency lights due to no power.

The elevators and escalators weren't working, so we walked to the front of the terminal with our luggage and then my DH walked up the two flights of stairs to get our car. He'd been assured that he could pick us up at the front of the terminal.

SD and I waited at the front of the terminal for about 15 minutes and finally heard a police officer say that no one was allowed to pick up at the front of the terminal. I went over to talk to her and told her that we'd been told that we [U]could[/U] be picked up at the terminal and now my husband was gone to get the car and we had no way of contacting him. Her rather snooty reply to me was, "What? We have no cell phone?" And my answer to her was very abrupt, "Canadian. No roaming." (My DH's cell is a company cell and he had roaming on it. But my cell, we didn't think we'd need it and knew we couldn't use it on the ship without great expense, so we opted to just leave mine the way it was - as in an emergency it would still be able to dial 911 even without roaming.)

Anyhow, we did happen to see my DH come down the street toward us. He stopped well away and I went to tell him he wasn't allowed to pick us up. We had 5 bags between us, so we switched drivers. I took the car and drove it away from the terminal down 54th? street and waited for DH to cross the street with all the bags and catch up to me.

Turns out that my DH had also been told things incorrectly and he'd actually had to drive out into NYC to turn around. Then he came back into the terminal and told the guard that he was just driving in to pick us up - and here he couldn't do that anyhow because they were forcing everyone to cross to the other side of Rt9A to be picked up over there.

Except for the scary 45 minutes of high swells the first night, that was probably the most negative thing that happened to us on the entire trip.

[Snowrose]

Oops! I was mistaken. All the Kids Crew info was in a single circular geared to each age level. I've uploaded the 4 pages of the Tween's circular for you. If I remember correctly there's only a date on one page, so it seems that they expect things to pretty much stay the same with each cruise. (They do have the ability to create publications on the ship. When DH went to a Latitudes party he was told how the guy who does the publications was up until 1AM one night, trying to get all the information into the next day's Dailies.)

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[aprylstar]

Awesome - thanks!

[quote name='Snowrose']Oops! I was mistaken. All the Kids Crew info was in a single circular geared to each age level. I've uploaded the 4 pages of the Tween's circular for you. If I remember correctly there's only a date on one page, so it seems that they expect things to pretty much stay the same with each cruise. (They do have the ability to create publications on the ship. When DH went to a Latitudes party he was told how the guy who does the publications was up until 1AM one night, trying to get all the information into the next day's Dailies.)

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