Parents & Kids in different cabins

[babyher]

I've booked our family of 7 on 3 NCL cruises - every agent I've ever talked to told me that it doesn't matter who sleeps in what room. Why do you think they have no problem changing key cards? My job is to keep my children safe, while preparing them for the world, bit by bit. Prepare the child for the path, not the path for the child. Our job is not to raise children, it's to raise adults. This whole new helicoptering of children is sad.

 

I agree. Of course you do your best to keep them safe. But locking them in a vault and carrying them around in a basket is certainly not the answer.

 

We always gave our kids a little slack to do on their own. That slack increased a little more as age and maturity dictated. Mind you we were watching them all the while just in case they got into REAL trouble . But fortunately none of them ever did .

 

They are all grown now and very self sufficient. we taught them to keep their eyes and ears open and use caution, but not to be afraid of every little thing.

[SissasMomE]

And Natalee Holloway went to Aruba and I'm sure her parents told her to be careful as well.

 

Yeah ... I wouldn't allow a teen to walk around a foreign port alone, or with friends. That's kinda crazy. Mine is going to be 17, and she will not be exiting the ship w/out a parent or grandparent. She wouldn't even ask, as she knows what the answer would be! Too many things can and do go wrong. Last year in Nassau, we were walking around and a man approached my husband (with me and the 2 girls right there) and attempted to push marijuana into his hand. He's smart enough to back away and accept nothing ... can you imagine if that happened to a teen? Not that they'd willingly take it, but I can't imagine anyone that age knowing what to do in that situation. People are crazy!

 

As for the Natalie Halloway thing - no way I'd let my kid take a school trip to an island like that .... I'm sure her parents regret it every single day :(

[SissasMomE]

And I am sure her mother is sad. However, I'm not keeping my older teens locked up - that's just crazy. Two of them are going on a school sponsored trip to Montreal this year. Last year they went to California. Dd17 will go away with her friends/boyfriend on prom weekend. Three months later, she will go away to college, attend parties, and walk across dark campuses.

 

At what age should people be allowed out in public unescorted? Senior citizens get raped and murdered. It would seem that the most likely adult victims would be those that were oversheltered.

 

The world is a safer place than when I was growing up, it's just the media that makes it seem oh so scary. Bad things happen - always have, always will. My 10 year olds will still walk to school (have since 2nd grade), go out for lunch, and play outside.

 

The media?? LOL Wow. I hope you never have to wake up and see the real world.

Edited February 9, 2014 by SissasMomE

[SissasMomE]

I've booked our family of 7 on 3 NCL cruises - every agent I've ever talked to told me that it doesn't matter who sleeps in what room. Why do you think they have no problem changing key cards? My job is to keep my children safe, while preparing them for the world, bit by bit. Prepare the child for the path, not the path for the child. Our job is not to raise children, it's to raise adults. This whole new helicoptering of children is sad.

 

a 2nd grader is not an adult. I can't even fathom allowing one that young walk to school alone. That is sad.

Edited February 9, 2014 by SissasMomE

[SissasMomE]

I agree. Of course you do your best to keep them safe. But locking them in a vault and carrying them around in a basket is certainly not the answer.

 

We always gave our kids a little slack to do on their own. That slack increased a little more as age and maturity dictated. Mind you we were watching them all the while just in case they got into REAL trouble . But fortunately none of them ever did .

 

They are all grown now and very self sufficient. we taught them to keep their eyes and ears open and use caution, but not to be afraid of every little thing.

 

I completely agree. One must also use common sense when parenting. There was a review posted by someone giving their 6-year old the cabin key and allowing them to roam the ship alone. :rolleyes:

[rvsullivan]

All this posting about a thread that is almost a year old?????

 

To the person that reopened it, you can have charging or not on the kids cards, your call.

Edited February 9, 2014 by rvsullivan

[babyher]

I completely agree. One must also use common sense when parenting. There was a review posted by someone giving their 6-year old the cabin key and allowing them to roam the ship alone. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

Well that is absolutely insane ......but a teen. Come on. I think some of these parents keep these kids scared and on a short leash because they are afraid of them growing up and losing their control. Hmmm as long as they aren't able to wipe their own behind, cross a street, or sleep by themselves, they still need me.

 

 

One of these posts, maybe not this thread but one of them (they all blend together after a while :)) said something like "danger is around every corner"

 

 

REALLY???????? thats how you raise achild. What is this an old James Bond movie where a guy in a turban with an eye patch and a scar is lurking in the shadows throwing a dagger at you hitting the wall just inches from your head. Come on!!!!

 

 

of course there are dangers out there , for kids, adults, everyone, and yes there are crazy people out there . but you teach them to be aware of surroundings and don't take crazy risks , and what areas to avoid, to use common sense . Not be afraid of everything

Edited February 9, 2014 by babyher

[SissasMomE]

Well that is absolutely insane ......but a teen. Come on. I think some of these parents keep these kids scared and on a short leash because they are afraid of them growing up and losing their control. Hmmm as long as they aren't able to wipe their own behind, cross a street, or sleep by themselves, they still need me.

 

 

One of these posts, maybe not this thread but one of them (they all blend together after a while :)) said something like "danger is around every corner"

 

 

REALLY???????? thats how you raise achild. What is this an old James Bond movie where a guy in a turban with an eye patch and a scar is lurking in the shadows throwing a dagger at you hitting the wall just inches from your head. Come on!!!!

 

 

of course there are dangers out there , for kids, adults, everyone, and yes there are crazy people out there . but you teach them to be aware of surroundings and don't take crazy risks , and what areas to avoid, to use common sense . Not be afraid of everything

 

Going to the extreme, in either direction, isn't good. I agree. The majority of my family is law enforcement, and I was with the DA's office, so .... I see things differently ... but yes, extremes are not good.

Edited February 9, 2014 by SissasMomE

[Tutankhamen]

All this posting about a thread that is almost a year old?????

 

To the person that reopened it, you can have charging or not on the kids cards, your call.

 

 

Thanks for the response. Did a search trying to keep from starting a new thread. Forgot to look at the date. Didn't mean to resurrect a dead thread.

[Tutankhamen]

Yeah ... I wouldn't allow a teen to walk around a foreign port alone, or with friends. That's kinda crazy. Mine is going to be 17, and she will not be exiting the ship w/out a parent or grandparent. She wouldn't even ask, as she knows what the answer would be! Too many things can and do go wrong. Last year in Nassau, we were walking around and a man approached my husband (with me and the 2 girls right there) and attempted to push marijuana into his hand. He's smart enough to back away and accept nothing ... can you imagine if that happened to a teen? Not that they'd willingly take it, but I can't imagine anyone that age knowing what to do in that situation. People are crazy!

 

As for the Natalie Halloway thing - no way I'd let my kid take a school trip to an island like that .... I'm sure her parents regret it every single day :(

 

But at 18 they can sign up to fight a war in a country none of us would go. Is their a big difference between a shild who is 17 years, 11 months and 30 days old and a 18 year old? I have seen plenty of 25 year old adults I would trust them to find their way out of a paper bag, and some 17 year old minors that I would trust my life in their hands. Age is meaningless.

[Tutankhamen]

And Natalee Holloway went to Aruba and I'm sure her parents told her to be careful as well.

 

 

And someone lost a child driving to church. I guess they should of been atheists.

[ksimpso3]

Yeah ... I wouldn't allow a teen to walk around a foreign port alone, or with friends. That's kinda crazy. Mine is going to be 17, and she will not be exiting the ship w/out a parent or grandparent. She wouldn't even ask, as she knows what the answer would be! Too many things can and do go wrong. Last year in Nassau, we were walking around and a man approached my husband (with me and the 2 girls right there) and attempted to push marijuana into his hand. He's smart enough to back away and accept nothing ... can you imagine if that happened to a teen? Not that they'd willingly take it, but I can't imagine anyone that age knowing what to do in that situation. People are crazy!

 

As for the Natalie Halloway thing - no way I'd let my kid take a school trip to an island like that .... I'm sure her parents regret it every single day :(

 

We took my daughter (who turned 18 2 weeks after the cruise) and her 18 year old friend on a cruise for their high school graduation. We put them in an inside room across the hall from us. I was very nervous about not knowing where they were all the time, but they were 18 right :confused:. We allowed them to stay on the private island (we had to cancel a port so had an overnight at Great Stirrup Cay) when we went back around 10 pm, and I was a nervous wreck. (It is hard to realize your kids are growing up). I still worry about my girls and they are 24 and 26 now (in fact on our last cruise in Hawaii they were going to go into town alone one night to a bar right next to the port and my husband and I were extremely worried about it, but luckily they were too tired from the day and decided against it ;). Whew...dodged a bullet there;)!) There is nothing wrong with worrying about your children, but they also need to have some freedom to learn how to be adults also. It's just not easy to do ;)

[SissasMomE]

We took my daughter (who turned 18 2 weeks after the cruise) and her 18 year old friend on a cruise for their high school graduation. We put them in an inside room across the hall from us. I was very nervous about not knowing where they were all the time, but they were 18 right :confused:. We allowed them to stay on the private island (we had to cancel a port so had an overnight at Great Stirrup Cay) when we went back around 10 pm, and I was a nervous wreck. (It is hard to realize your kids are growing up). I still worry about my girls and they are 24 and 26 now (in fact on our last cruise in Hawaii they were going to go into town alone one night to a bar right next to the port and my husband and I were extremely worried about it, but luckily they were too tired from the day and decided against it ;). Whew...dodged a bullet there;)!) There is nothing wrong with worrying about your children, but they also need to have some freedom to learn how to be adults also. It's just not easy to do ;)

 

No, it's certainly not easy!! :)

[ksimpso3]

But at 18 they can sign up to fight a war in a country none of us would go. Is their a big difference between a shild who is 17 years, 11 months and 30 days old and a 18 year old? I have seen plenty of 25 year old adults I would trust them to find their way out of a paper bag, and some 17 year old minors that I would trust my life in their hands. Age is meaningless.

 

I agree with you that age is meaningless to a point. I have a friend who's son just turned 12. He is more mature than most 25 year olds, and I would have fewer concerns about him being in an inside room by himself than other 12 year olds I know. But knowing my daughter at almost 18, she was a bit reckless at times, and all I could think of was she would perch on a ledge somewhere for a picture and fall into the ocean!:eek:. Luckily that didn't happen :D...but you are right about age. It is more important to know your child and go from there. Each parent needs to decide for themselves based on their child what they are comfortable with and where they will "let the reins free" so to speak, but in the end, it is a parent's job to keep their kids safe.

Edited February 9, 2014 by ksimpso3

[Tutankhamen]

I agree with you that age is meaningless to a point. I have a friend who's son just turned 12. He is more mature than most 25 year olds, and I would have fewer concerns about him being in an inside room by himself than other 12 year olds I know. But knowing my daughter at almost 18, she was a bit reckless at times, and all I could think of was she would perch on a ledge somewhere for a picture and fall into the ocean!:eek:. Luckily that didn't happen :D...but you are right about age. It is more important to know your child and go from there. Each parent needs to decide for themselves based on their child what they are comfortable with and where they will "let the reins free" so to speak, but in the end, it is a parent's job to keep their kids safe.

 

Thanks for the laugh!! Your daughter sounds like my sister when we growing up and the 12 year old boy sounds like my brother.

[NLH Arizona]

And someone lost a child driving to church. I guess they should of been atheists.

My point is that even when a parent tells their child to be careful, something bad can happen.

 

What is your point?

[babyher]

We took my daughter (who turned 18 2 weeks after the cruise) and her 18 year old friend on a cruise for their high school graduation. We put them in an inside room across the hall from us. I was very nervous about not knowing where they were all the time, but they were 18 right :confused:. We allowed them to stay on the private island (we had to cancel a port so had an overnight at Great Stirrup Cay) when we went back around 10 pm, and I was a nervous wreck. (It is hard to realize your kids are growing up). I still worry about my girls and they are 24 and 26 now (in fact on our last cruise in Hawaii they were going to go into town alone one night to a bar right next to the port and my husband and I were extremely worried about it, but luckily they were too tired from the day and decided against it ;). Whew...dodged a bullet there;)!) There is nothing wrong with worrying about your children, but they also need to have some freedom to learn how to be adults also. It's just not easy to do ;)

 

 

 

Its tough

 

My DD is 28 and works and has her own apartment in NYC, plus travels all over the world for work. Its a lot for a parent to take in sometimes. But I am so proud of her , and I am constantly impressed by where she has gone and done with her life and career.

 

I would certainly rather have it this way, then have her be some little spinster living with me like in an old Bette Davis movie .