Passport

[sparks1093]

My taxes are paid thank you very much.

 

But would like clarification about the passport and IRS debt. If anyone has experience with the situation...rather than a useless snarky opinion thanks.

 

 

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Here are the reasons for passport denial listed in Title 22 (and the State Department website says that child support arrears must be more than $2500 to result in a denial):

Title 22 - Foreign Relations

 

 

§ 51.60Denial and restriction of passports.

(a) The Department may not issue a passport, except a passport for direct return to the United States, in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by competent authority that:

(1) The applicant is in default on a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(B) for the repatriation of the applicant and, where applicable, the applicant's spouse, minor child(ren), and/or other immediate family members, from a foreign country (see 22 U.S.C. 2671(d)); or

(2) The applicant has been certified by the Secretary of Health and Human Services as notified by a state agency under 42 U.S.C. 652(k) to be in arrears of child support in an amount determined by statute.

 

(b) The Department may refuse to issue a passport in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by competent authority that:

(1) The applicant is the subject of an outstanding Federal warrant of arrest for a felony, including a warrant issued under the Federal Fugitive Felon Act (18 U.S.C. 1073); or

(2) The applicant is subject to a criminal court order, condition of probation, or condition of parole, any of which forbids departure from the United States and the violation of which could result in the issuance of a Federal warrant of arrest, including a warrant issued under the Federal Fugitive Felon Act; or

(3) The applicant is subject to a U.S. court order committing him or her to a mental institution; or

(4) The applicant has been legally declared incompetent by a court of competent jurisdiction in the United States; or

(5) The applicant is the subject of a request for extradition or provisional request for extradition which has been presented to the government of a foreign country; or

(6) The applicant is the subject of a subpoena received from the United States pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1783, in a matter involving Federal prosecution for, or grand jury investigation of, a felony; or

Code of Federal Regulations / Title 22 - Foreign Relations / Vol. 1 / 2009-04-01245

 

 

(7) The applicant is a minor and the passport may be denied under 22 CFR 51.28; or

(8) The applicant is subject to an order of restraint or apprehension issued by an appropriate officer of the United States Armed Forces pursuant to chapter 47 of title 10 of the United States Code; or

(9) The applicant is the subject of an outstanding state or local warrant of arrest for a felony; or

(10) The applicant is the subject of a request for extradition or provisional arrest submitted to the United States by a foreign country.

 

© The Department may refuse to issue a passport in any case in which:

(1) The applicant has not repaid a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2670(j) for emergency medical attention, dietary supplements, and other emergency assistance, including, if applicable, assistance provided to his or her child(ren), spouse, and/or other immediate family members in a foreign country; or

(2) The applicant has not repaid a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(B) or 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(A) for the repatriation or evacuation of the applicant and, if applicable, the applicant's child(ren), spouse, and/or other immediate family members from a foreign country to the United States; or

(3) The applicant has previously been denied a passport under this section or 22 CFR 51.61, or the Department has revoked the applicant's passport or issued a limited passport for direct return to the United States under 22 CFR 51.62, and the applicant has not shown that there has been a change in circumstances since the denial, revocation or issuance of a limited passport that warrants issuance of a passport; or

(4) The Secretary determines that the applicant's activities abroad are causing or are likely to cause serious damage to the national security or the foreign policy of the United States.

 

(d) The Department may refuse to issue a passport in a case in which the Department is informed by an appropriate foreign government authority or international organization that the applicant is the subject of a warrant of arrest for a felony.

 

(e) The Department may refuse to issue a passport, except a passport for direct return to the United States, in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by a competent authority that the applicant is a minor who has been abducted, wrongfully removed or retained in violation of a court order or decree and return to his or her home state or habitual residence is necessary to permit a court of competent jurisdiction to determine custody matters.

[Seattlecruisers98021]

Thank you Sparks!

 

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[foxcent]

Seriously - if you owe back taxes or even worse child support? Take care of your responsibilities first people! Cruising is a luxury not a need - jeez. If some child is getting stiffed someplace and their parent is cruising - HAUL em off!!

 

Geeez, I totally understanding what you are saying, but this is not the case....The child is being taken care of...I am not the one so please stop making comments on this post as if its me...I am looking out for a cousin that will be crusing with her boyfriend which is a good friend of my husband......I was aking in her behalf

[foxcent]

Last time I saw one of these posts on CC it went on for days. Might even be worth some popcorn. :D

 

WOW, I should have looked for that post......I did not know I would get this much reaction....Was just looking for answers, not scruitny...:D

[foxcent]

Unless you know the circumstances, you might want to be consider not being so judgmental.

 

My wife's son is going on our upcoming cruise with us. Originally we were going to take a friend of his who lives out of state with us. We knew the friend owed back child support but we were willing to take him with us. Why? Because he came to stay with us last year for a couple of weeks after our daughter in law was killed during a robbery at the store where she worked (today would have been their 9th anniversary). His friend was a big part of helping him get through the early days after the tragedy. No matter what you or anyone else might think, we felt he deserved it, and it was a way to show our gratitude. After some thought, he opted not to go with us as he has been out of work for a long time and doesn't want to feel like a free loader as we'd have to pay for everything. We'd still take him with us in a heartbeat.

 

THANK YOU for that information.. My point exactly......I welcome the advise but not the criticism

[foxcent]

Here are the reasons for passport denial listed in Title 22 (and the State Department website says that child support arrears must be more than $2500 to result in a denial):

 

 

Title 22 - Foreign Relations

 

 

§ 51.60Denial and restriction of passports.

(a) The Department may not issue a passport, except a passport for direct return to the United States, in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by competent authority that:

(1) The applicant is in default on a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(B) for the repatriation of the applicant and, where applicable, the applicant's spouse, minor child(ren), and/or other immediate family members, from a foreign country (see 22 U.S.C. 2671(d)); or

(2) The applicant has been certified by the Secretary of Health and Human Services as notified by a state agency under 42 U.S.C. 652(k) to be in arrears of child support in an amount determined by statute.

 

(b) The Department may refuse to issue a passport in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by competent authority that:

(1) The applicant is the subject of an outstanding Federal warrant of arrest for a felony, including a warrant issued under the Federal Fugitive Felon Act (18 U.S.C. 1073); or

(2) The applicant is subject to a criminal court order, condition of probation, or condition of parole, any of which forbids departure from the United States and the violation of which could result in the issuance of a Federal warrant of arrest, including a warrant issued under the Federal Fugitive Felon Act; or

(3) The applicant is subject to a U.S. court order committing him or her to a mental institution; or

(4) The applicant has been legally declared incompetent by a court of competent jurisdiction in the United States; or

(5) The applicant is the subject of a request for extradition or provisional request for extradition which has been presented to the government of a foreign country; or

(6) The applicant is the subject of a subpoena received from the United States pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1783, in a matter involving Federal prosecution for, or grand jury investigation of, a felony; or

Code of Federal Regulations / Title 22 - Foreign Relations / Vol. 1 / 2009-04-01245

 

 

(7) The applicant is a minor and the passport may be denied under 22 CFR 51.28; or

(8) The applicant is subject to an order of restraint or apprehension issued by an appropriate officer of the United States Armed Forces pursuant to chapter 47 of title 10 of the United States Code; or

(9) The applicant is the subject of an outstanding state or local warrant of arrest for a felony; or

(10) The applicant is the subject of a request for extradition or provisional arrest submitted to the United States by a foreign country.

 

© The Department may refuse to issue a passport in any case in which:

(1) The applicant has not repaid a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2670(j) for emergency medical attention, dietary supplements, and other emergency assistance, including, if applicable, assistance provided to his or her child(ren), spouse, and/or other immediate family members in a foreign country; or

(2) The applicant has not repaid a loan received from the United States under 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(B) or 22 U.S.C. 2671(b)(2)(A) for the repatriation or evacuation of the applicant and, if applicable, the applicant's child(ren), spouse, and/or other immediate family members from a foreign country to the United States; or

(3) The applicant has previously been denied a passport under this section or 22 CFR 51.61, or the Department has revoked the applicant's passport or issued a limited passport for direct return to the United States under 22 CFR 51.62, and the applicant has not shown that there has been a change in circumstances since the denial, revocation or issuance of a limited passport that warrants issuance of a passport; or

(4) The Secretary determines that the applicant's activities abroad are causing or are likely to cause serious damage to the national security or the foreign policy of the United States.

 

(d) The Department may refuse to issue a passport in a case in which the Department is informed by an appropriate foreign government authority or international organization that the applicant is the subject of a warrant of arrest for a felony.

 

(e) The Department may refuse to issue a passport, except a passport for direct return to the United States, in any case in which the Department determines or is informed by a competent authority that the applicant is a minor who has been abducted, wrongfully removed or retained in violation of a court order or decree and return to his or her home state or habitual residence is necessary to permit a court of competent jurisdiction to determine custody matters.

 

My cousin is saying her's is under $2500, she saying $1200 but she was denied... I dont know what to do now????????? She stay in a diiferent state than me and we are not always in touch with each other

[sparks1093]

My cousin is saying her's is under $2500, she saying $1200 but she was denied... I dont know what to do now????????? She stay in a diiferent state than me and we are not always in touch with each other

 

Maybe she should contact her Congressperson. If I read that the arreage had to be a certain amount and mine was below it I would want to know why I was denied.

[Donray]

Advise: If one cannot get a passport they should be denied boarding for the same reason.

[foxcent]

Advise: If one cannot get a passport they should be denied boarding for the same reason.

 

And why is that??? What about people who have not took the time to apply for a passport, who do not know if they will be denied or not.. Should they not board as well??????

[foxcent]

Maybe she should contact her Congressperson. If I read that the arreage had to be a certain amount and mine was below it I would want to know why I was denied.

 

Just found out that different states have different laws...You have to have 0 balance to be issued a passport in Ohio and not sure what other state....

[sparks1093]

Just found out that different states have different laws...You have to have 0 balance to be issued a passport in Ohio and not sure what other state....

 

That would make sense. In any event your cousin will still be able to cruise with a government issued birth certificate and government issued photo ID (as long as it's a closed loop cruise which most cruises to the Bahamas are).

[Big_G]

WOW, I should have looked for that post......I did not know I would get this much reaction....Was just looking for answers, not scruitny...:D

 

Live and learn...search is your friend. You'll be happy to know they were no less judgmental on the RCI Boards. ;)

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1813823&highlight=denied+passport

[YubaSutter]

 

The BC cannot be a hospital copy or a xerox copy.

 

 

Not true, it CAN be a xerox copy.

[Big_G]

Not true, it CAN be a xerox copy.

 

Then why do all the cruise lines require a certified copy?

[sparks1093]

Then why do all the cruise lines require a certified copy?

 

CCL doesn't, most do probably because they don't want a lot of irate passengers who don't understand what is an acceptable copy and what isn't at the terminal. I have read instances of people having birth certificates being faxed to the ports on RCL, CCL and NCL and wouldn't be surprised if it's happened on others, either. Bottom line is the DHS regulations say that a passenger may present an "original or copy" of their birth certificate.

 

(I still recommend that people bring the original but also think people need to be aware of what the alternatives are.)

[Donray]

And why is that??? What about people who have not took the time to apply for a passport, who do not know if they will be denied or not.. Should they not board as well??????

 

You should learn to understand what is written. I said CANNOT get a passport.

[foxcent]

That would make sense. In any event your cousin will still be able to cruise with a government issued birth certificate and government issued photo ID (as long as it's a closed loop cruise which most cruises to the Bahamas are).

 

Thank you so much for your reply :)

[foxcent]

You should learn to understand what is written. I said CANNOT get a passport.

 

RIGHT AND I am saying if they CANNOT get a Passport why should they be denied? You don't necessarily need a passport to cruise so why deny someone to cruise.......